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Monksdown 03-16-2013 12:24 PM

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Didn't want Talib(an) anyway. And this is good news because it pressures the FO to shit or get off the pot in the db sweepstakes.

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-16-2013 12:32 PM

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To be honest, I don't want any of the remaining defensive backs that are left. Looking towards the draft now. I expect 2 CBs and a S in the draft. Safety in the 2nd and CB in the 3rd and 4th.

KI Skins Fan 03-16-2013 12:32 PM

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Whatever the Skins do they had better do it right now. There are very few decent CB's left to sign. If the Skins don't move fast there may not be a Plan B available to them. With that in mind, I think we can expect a quick signing.

tc2deuce 03-16-2013 12:32 PM

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Can somebody tell me why we need AJ Smith as a GM advisor? That guy single handedly destroyed the Chargers!'

MTK 03-16-2013 12:33 PM

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[quote=tc2deuce;999076]Can somebody tell me why we need AJ Smith as a GM advisor? That guy single handedly destroyed the Chargers?!?[/quote]

He's here to evaluate talent, not to make any GM related decisions.

Bubba305-ST21- 03-16-2013 12:36 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;999074]To be honest, I don't want any of the remaining defensive backs that are left. Looking towards the draft now. I expect 2 CBs and a S in the draft. Safety in the 2nd and CB in the 3rd and 4th.[/quote]

wouldnt mind that, but winfield or hall i think would only help. I agree though 2 cbs and a safety. I want Cyprien or Swearinger later in the rounds.

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-16-2013 12:37 PM

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Xavier Rhodes, Matt Elam, Eric Reid, Jordan Poyer, Baccari Rambo, Johnathan Cyprien, Tyrann Mathieu, Shamwow Thomas, Johnathan Banks, DJ Swearinger, Ray Ray Armstrong and more.


There are plenty of Defensive back sthat will be there for the choosing for us next month. I expect that we will get three of them. Not to mention we have Richard Crawford, Chase Minnifield, and Jordan Bernsteine all returning next season. Our secondary will be young next year but I feel we will be fine.

CRedskinsRule 03-16-2013 12:38 PM

the same 3CBs will be available next year(think their agents didn't explain Skins situation to them) and clearly we aren't willing to offer the going rate of $5mil a year. I imagine that would either force restructures we don't want to make, or give up on trying to get FD.

At this point, I would see what Winfield would take, and if not there go with rookies. it may not be the best this year, but it would let us know where we stand as we look at these CBs again next year.

better game plan to score 40 pts a game Kyle.

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-16-2013 12:40 PM

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[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;999078]wouldnt mind that, but winfield or hall i think would only help. I agree though 2 cbs and a safety. I want Cyprien or Swearinger later in the rounds.[/quote]

Cyprien might not make it past SF but I want Cyprien/Thomas, Mathieu, and Swearinger. Maybe with Armstrong as a 6th or 7th rounder.

Daseal 03-16-2013 12:43 PM

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I'm thinking we try to sign DHall back and we give the duo of Jackson and Merriweather at safety and hope our depth lasts.

I'm excited for another year of Crawford and hopefully the emergence of Chase Minnfield.

CRedskinsRule 03-16-2013 12:50 PM

bottomline: 18M gets you the top FA CB + Safety and resigns Zo and FDavis. That's how to define the cap penalty.

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-16-2013 12:56 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;999083]bottomline: 18M gets you the top FA CB + Safety and resigns Zo and FDavis. That's how to define the cap penalty.[/quote]

True, hey it happens.

JoeRedskin 03-16-2013 01:24 PM

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One week of free agency and we haven't addresed any of our needs by signing a top flight UFA, we're doomed!!! I mean, based on how well that strategy has worked in the past, we know it is the [I]only[/I] path to success!

Oh ... wait ...

JoeRedskin 03-16-2013 01:26 PM

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Chill. Next man up. We had a horrific secondary this year and won the East. Maybe we take a step back, maybe we take a surprising step up (who knows, maybe we get the AlMo of CB's this year).

Relax. Shanallen has a plan and the plan is good.

REDSKINS4ever 03-16-2013 01:35 PM

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[quote=Monksdown;999073]Didn't want Talib(an) anyway. And this is good news because it pressures the FO to shit or get off the pot in the db sweepstakes.[/quote]

I agree with you. I didn't think Talib was a good fit in Haslett's defense anyway. We aren't going to be able to spend money in free agency this offseason any damn way. The only options are to make a trade for a corner, draft a corner, or develop someone we already have to replace D. Hall. Jim Haslett and Mike Shanahan should throw the kitchen sink at Richard Crawford and see how good he really is. After that 6-7 game hiatus last season, he came to the forefront. He'll struggle some in coverage but Crawford will make plays on the ball also.

artmonkforhallofamein07 03-16-2013 01:38 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;999068]He signed for one year.[/quote]

My point being that we would have signed him to a multi year deal to spread the impact of the cap hit this year. I highly doubt that we were looking to sign him for a year. That was my point.

DynamiteRave 03-16-2013 02:38 PM

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Bringing back Hall for a 1 year deal isn't sounding too horrible right now.

MTK 03-16-2013 02:40 PM

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At this point I'd try to re-sign Hall and C. Griffin and focus on the draft for more secondary help.

SFREDSKIN 03-16-2013 02:45 PM

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[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000150953/article/nfl-free-agency-the-top-remaining-players]NFL free agency: The top remaining players - NFL.com[/url]

SOUL-SKINS 03-16-2013 02:47 PM

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Bottom line. This sucks. We will see ramifications of this cap penalty for the next couple of years. We lost key guys who we would normally have been able to keep. Example : Alexander..... and we can't upgrade at any position for the most part. The only way outta this is if we nail solid starters on 4 of our 7 draft picks.

That Guy 03-16-2013 02:55 PM

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[quote=SkinzWin;999072]I think Chase Minniefield will play better than you think. Don't be such a negative nancy.[/quote]

except he may never play. his knees are REALLY bad. that's why he wasn't drafted.

HailGreen28 03-16-2013 03:05 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;999094]At this point I'd try to re-sign Hall and C. Griffin and focus on the draft for more secondary help.[/quote]Well that's just crazy talk. Everybody knows that the key to building a successful NFL team isn't by building from within.

REDSKINS4ever 03-16-2013 03:12 PM

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[quote=HailGreen28;999099]Well that's just crazy talk. Everybody knows that the key to building a successful NFL team isn't by building from within.[/quote]

No, it's not krazy talk because of the restrictions to the salary cap penalty. At this point without money to spend, it's better to bring back the guys that have shown a commitment and played well for us. Although I differ with those who feel Hall should be brought back, I agree that we should bring back Cedric Griffin. Hall is okay and he plays well from time to time but he just gets beat too much.

CultBrennan59 03-16-2013 03:27 PM

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[quote=SkinzWin;999072]I think Chase Minniefield will play better than you think. Don't be such a negative nancy.[/quote]

Dude you and a couple if other people here need to stop with this guy.

A he's never played an NFL game
B he is coming off of 2 torn acls on the same knee and micro fracture surgery which basically makes you prone to more surgeries.

Show me in the past a CB who has had micro fracture and or more than one knee surgery who is/was still playing at or near their career numbers. CB, RB and WR are 3 of the main positions in the NFL where you can't have guys cutting hard and fast on multiple knee surgeries and/or micro fracture surgery.

NYCskinfan82 03-16-2013 04:23 PM

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IMO we will probably trade back, and draft at least 2DB's & 2S's, let other teams sign all these FA's just means better players will fall to us.

CultBrennan59 03-16-2013 04:50 PM

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;999103]IMO we will probably trade back, and draft at least 2DB's & 2S's, let other teams sign all these FA's just means better players will fall to us.[/quote]

BPA of need (so basically anything but OLB, QB)

Alvin Walton 03-16-2013 04:55 PM

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Is Minniefield even able to run yet?

artmonkforhallofamein07 03-16-2013 05:04 PM

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The last time I read anything about him was a month or two ago. Basically stated he tore his ACL in June and had the surgery to fix that. He said he felt good about where he was and how he was able to spend a lot of time in the team meetings, film room, and of course the training room.

I would suspect that with him being almost 9 months removed from the ACL surgery he would be doing some running now. But what do I know I am not a Dr. Still this guy as great as he could have been possibly as a very remote chance of having success in the NFL.

NYCskinfan82 03-16-2013 05:18 PM

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;999106]The last time I read anything about him was a month or two ago. Basically stated he tore his ACL in June and had the surgery to fix that. He said he felt good about where he was and how he was able to spend a lot of time in the team meetings, film room, and of course the training room.

I would suspect that with him being almost 9 months removed from the ACL surgery he would be doing some running now. [B]But what do I know I am not a Dr.[/B] Still this guy as great as he could have been possibly as a very remote chance of having success in the NFL.[/quote]

But you did stay at a HOLIDAY INN.

artmonkforhallofamein07 03-16-2013 05:21 PM

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Exactly

Skinzman 03-16-2013 05:39 PM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;999105]Is Minniefield even able to run yet?[/quote]

[url=http://washingtonexaminer.com/redskins-cornerback-chase-minnifield-looks-to-reconstruct-a-promising-career/article/2522977]Redskins cornerback Chase Minnifield looks to reconstruct a promising career | WashingtonExaminer.com[/url]

Zerohero 03-16-2013 05:45 PM

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Every year we "win" FA we lose games. I'm content with the draft to fill needs. We develop a winning atmosphere and guys will come here for less not just view us as a payday.

Chico23231 03-16-2013 05:49 PM

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[quote=Zerohero;999112]Every year we "win" FA we lose games. I'm content with the draft to fill needs. We develop a winning atmosphere and guys will come here for less not just view us as a payday.[/quote]

Lets close the thread with this, because its probably the most intelligent comment Ive read all offseason.

Daseal 03-16-2013 06:51 PM

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There's a different in giving an over-the-hill FA a boatload of cash and improving your team with younger/role player talent. Like most things in life, building a team requires a balanced approach. Good drafts and FA pickups. People forget that some of our crucial players are FAs. Fletcher, Moss, Garcon, Bowen, Carikkier, just to name a few.

SkinzzFan 03-16-2013 07:21 PM

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[quote=Daseal;999120]There's a different in giving an over-the-hill FA a boatload of cash and improving your team with younger/role player talent. Like most things in life, building a team requires a balanced approach. Good drafts and FA pickups. People forget that some of our crucial players are FAs. Fletcher, Moss, Garcon, Bowen, Carikkier, just to name a few.[/quote]

We traded for Carriker but I understand what you're saying.

skinsfaninok 03-16-2013 07:26 PM

[QUOTE=SkinzzFan;999121]We traded for Carriker but I understand what you're saying.[/QUOTE]

And moss didn't we?

artmonkforhallofamein07 03-16-2013 07:59 PM

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Yep Lavernius Coles and a pick I believe

DynamiteRave 03-16-2013 08:05 PM

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;999123]Yep [B]Laberbius[/B] Coles and a pick I believ[/quote]

This is close to being a female body part.

I'm going to render a guess that you butchered this. lol

artmonkforhallofamein07 03-16-2013 08:08 PM

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Apple auto correct :)

Schneed10 03-16-2013 08:19 PM

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I do think the Chicken Littles up in here need to take a pill. Our secondary will be so much better next year because of the presence of Brandon Meriweather alone. They will come up with a passable CB either through the draft or through patience in free agency.

And has everyone forgotten how Reed Doughty performed at the end of the year? Dude may have turned a corner.


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