[QUOTE=Mattyk;1052874]Of course, that's why he was at the Baylor game last night.[/QUOTE]


That's why they haven't hired anyone yet. They were waiting for him to return from the Baylor game. :-)


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Maybe Robert's the unofficial GM, and thats why they haven't come out and said anything . . . brilliant!

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[quote=Brody81;1052875]That's why they haven't hired anyone yet. They were waiting for him to return from the Baylor game. :-)


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He's there to pick up Briles, no interview necessary. He'll just bring him back to DC.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1052849]I have no idea why his name is even being mentioned. I doubt the Redskins are even interested. Just rumors flying....

Also...funny how when Cousins was asked who he'd like as the next head coach he says.." well that will be up to Mr. Snyder and Robert"....lol.[/quote]


That is why they should part ways with him. Let him see how good the rest of the NFL thinks he is.

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We cannot sign a BIG NAME youd expect us to sign the guy coach. We need to stay under the radar and make the smart move in hiring Darrell Bevell.

All great coaches get theyre start somewhere. Let us be where Bevell starts his.

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I actually felt embarrassed for Briles last night. Poor performance on the national stage. Hopefully Danny and Bruce took notice.

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[quote=Chico23231;1052880]I actually felt embarrassed for Briles last night. Poor performance on the national stage. Hopefully Danny and Bruce took notice.[/quote]

They had an off night and still put up 35 points and 500 yards.

One loss won't ruin him, just like Shaw.

[QUOTE=Mattyk;1052877]He's there to pick up Briles, no interview necessary. He'll just bring him back to DC.[/QUOTE]


That's got to be it... Maybe Robert did the interview himself after the bowl game? It's all coming together now..


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[quote=Chico23231;1052880]I actually felt embarrassed for Briles last night. Poor performance on the national stage. Hopefully Danny and Bruce took notice.[/quote]

That is usually what happens when your defense is absolute crap.

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[quote=Mattyk;1052881]They had an off night and still put up 35 points and 500 yards.

One loss won't ruin him, just like Shaw.[/quote]

Well that was UCF, and Shaw had a team imo that could beat both Florida State and Auburn. Shaw's teams are tough and resilent, which you saw yesterday. Baylor looked unprepared, mistake prone and undisplined. I would never describe a Shaw Stanford team like that for any game in his short tenure. Baylor while exciting and electric, has shown this type of ball before under Briles.

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I seriously think a Briles hire would be Spurrier 2.0. The absolute only way it would work is if Briles had a defensive cordinator/assistant head coach with extensive experience not named Haslett.

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Gregg Williams was let go because Vinny was afraid of Gregg trying to get rid of him as Head coach. Gregg wanted Gibbs type of control.


My updated coaches:

Head Coach
1. Russ Grimm
2. Ken Whisenhut
3. Hue Jackson
4. Sean McDermott/ Kirby Smart
5. Jay Gruden/ Mike Zimmer

Defensive Coordinator
1. Ken Norton Jr.
2. Kirby Smart
3. Raheem Morris
4. Pepper Johnson
5. Gregg Williams

Offensive Coordinator
1. Hue Jackson
2. Greg Knapp
3. Rob Chudzinski
4. Ben Mcadoo
5. Terry Robiskie

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[quote=Chico23231;1052886]I seriously think a Briles hire would be Spurrier 2.0. The absolute only way it would work is if Briles had a defensive cordinator/assistant head coach with extensive experience not named Haslett.[/quote]

I think Briles would be smart enough to surround himself with a strong staff. He doesn't strike me as a Spurrier type that would take the job for the $$ and think he can hit the golf course by 4pm every day.

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I'd really like to see Hue Jackson back here in some capacity.

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[quote=Mattyk;1052890]I'd really like to see Hue Jackson back here in some capacity.[/quote]

Sean McDermott with Hue Jackson as his offensive coordinator? The more I think about it, the more I really like McDermott over everybody else. BUT, I DO want to know who his offensive coordinator would be.

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[quote=Chico23231;1052886]I seriously think a Briles hire would be Spurrier 2.0. The absolute only way it would work is if Briles had a defensive cordinator/assistant head coach with extensive experience not named Haslett.[/quote]

I think this goes without saying based on my previous posts, but I'm with you 100%.

Im jumping on the Danny Smith bandwagon. On his show, Cooley said that Smith was one of the best leaders he's ever known and every single player on the team would run through a wall for the guy. He also said that every player, even those who didnt do special teams, felt open going to Smith about anything. Cooley said he was the only coach on the team he truly trusted. I seem to remember watching games, and Smith was always in Shanahans ear, helping him decide when to go for it, when to punt, when to take a time out, etc.

I think if we want a leader, we should hire Smith and pair him with an up and comming OC and DC.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1052895]I think this goes without saying based on my previous posts, but I'm with you 100%.

Im jumping on the Danny Smith bandwagon. On his show, Cooley said that Smith was one of the best leaders he's ever known and every single player on the team would run through a wall for the guy. He also said that every player, even those who didnt do special teams, felt open going to Smith about anything. Cooley said he was the only coach on the team he truly trusted. I seem to remember watching games, and Smith was always in Shanahans ear, helping him decide when to go for it, when to punt, when to take a time out, etc.

I think if we want a leader, we should hire Smith and pair him with an up and comming OC and DC.[/quote]

I will say that I remember when Gibbs was going to call the 2nd time out in a row that Smith ran over and tried to stop him, do y'all remember that?

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1052887]Gregg Williams was let go because Vinny was afraid of Gregg trying to get rid of him as Head coach. Gregg wanted Gibbs type of control.


My updated coaches:

Head Coach
1. Russ Grimm
2. Ken Whisenhut
3. Hue Jackson
4. Sean McDermott/ Kirby Smart
5. Jay Gruden/ Mike Zimmer

Defensive Coordinator
1. Ken Norton Jr.
2. Kirby Smart
3. Raheem Morris
4. Pepper Johnson
5. Gregg Williams

Offensive Coordinator
1. Hue Jackson
2. Greg Knapp
3. Rob Chudzinski
4. Ben Mcadoo
5. Terry Robiskie[/quote]

Just curious, merely as a coach (forgetting that he was a Hog) why is Russ Grimm at the top of your list?

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Danny Smith? Lol. Come on guys.

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[quote=Bucket;1052900]Danny Smith? Lol. Come on guys.[/quote]

One bad idea after another with some folks.

I'd welcome him back to run special teams, but HC is a serious stretch.

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[quote=Mattyk;1052901]One bad idea after another with some folks.

I'd welcome him back to run special teams, but HC is a serious stretch.[/quote]

People (like myself) couldn't wait for him to get canned as special teams coach, now people want him back as a head coach.

Off-season is going to be just as dysfunctional as the regular season was so it seems.

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[quote=Bucket;1052809]Art Briles.


I am impressed with watching the Eagles offense. Im currently watching the Baylor game and his fuel on the sideline is something we need in Washington

Imagine us spreading the ball out and utilizing Garcon in open space and Morris running the football against 6 man boxes[/quote]

We can't hire him due to the PR nightmare it would be unfortunatly. I like personally like the defensive coordinator of the panthers. It sure would be nice to have a coach that values knocking the chocolate outta people and moving the ball on offense.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1052902]People (like myself) couldn't wait for him to get canned as special teams coach, now people want him back as a head coach.

Off-season is going to be just as dysfunctional as the regular season was so it seems.[/quote]

Good thing the fans don't choose the coaches. Everyone has their own ideas and most of them stink.

Case in point
[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2013/12/30/who-should-be-the-next-coach-of-the-redskins/]Who should be the next coach of the Redskins?[/url]

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[quote=Paintrain;1052899]Just curious, merely as a coach (forgetting that he was a Hog) why is Russ Grimm at the top of your list?[/quote]

Russ is at the top of my list because our biggest issue has been the offensive line and leadership. Not fixing RG3. I know that Russ will fix both of those issues. Surround Russ with a strong offensive coordinator focused on play calling and a defensive coordinator, we will do well.

I want coaches that develop talent, not coaches that think their scheme is end all, be all. Everywhere Russ has gone the Running game has done well and so has the offensive line. When I say this, I mean at a Superbowl level. I think smart head coaches have wised up in the NFL and hide their best coaches in positional roles. That is why I would target a Coaches like Ken Norton Jr., Kirby Smart, or Pepper Johnson. All have been with their head coaches for long tenures and know how to implement their respective defenses. They also can develop talent. They raise the level of their players.

Same thing with the OC, look at Hue Jackson or Terry Robiskie, both coaches make players better. Matter of fact both have done it here in Washington before.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1052824]Of course you didn't. Everyone had just blindly jumped on the Briles bandwagon without knowing shit about shit. Everyone is looking at all of these candidates through rose colored glasses. It's amazing how the irrational hatred of shanahan has got everyone looking at mediocre guys as messiahs. All of you, answer me this -

How confident are you that ANY of these guys you've got hard ons for would have done better than shanahan inheriting cerratos roster and having the salary cap penalty?

Keep in mind that almost 50 players on the roster zorns last year were completely out of the league 2 years later. Shanahan inherited a roster that devoid of talent and the cap penalty prevented him from fixing it as quickly as he otherwise could have. I'm not trying to whine about losing shanahan as much as I'm pointing out that you have no rational basis for believing Any of these college coaches or nfl coordinators will improve on the foundation shanahan built vs tearing it apart.[/quote]

lets not forget that it was Shanahan that created the cap penalty

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1052911]lets not forget that it was Shanahan that created the cap penalty[/quote]NO SHANNY DID NOT CREATE THE CAP PENALTY.

Vinny and Danny created the massive boondoggle contract for Haynesworth, and Hall too.

John Mara, Roger Goodell, and Jeff Lurie and other owners, actually created the cap "penalty".

All Shanahan did was have the contracts redone to pay out in the uncapped year. A restructuring that THE LEAGUE HAD TO ACTIVELY APPROVE to be implemented. And the league did approve the contracts. And even after the cap "penalty" they put in place two years after the fact, the league front office is quoted as saying the Redskins "broke no rules".

For all the stuff that did go wrong in Shanny's tenure, the cap "penalty" was definitely not his fault.

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[quote=Chico23231;1052884]Well that was UCF, and Shaw had a team imo that could beat both Florida State and Auburn. Shaw's teams are tough and resilent, which you saw yesterday. Baylor looked unprepared, mistake prone and undisplined. I would never describe a Shaw Stanford team like that for any game in his short tenure. Baylor while exciting and electric, has shown this type of ball before under Briles.[/quote]

Be careful of the "error of recency".

I'm not totally sold on Briles either but last night didn't convince me either way. They played their worst game of the year...I don't put much into just one game.

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This thread is filled with more stupid comments then I can remember in any other Warpath thread. And this time not all of them are mine!

This thread is so fueled by emotion that I think some of us may be losing our minds over the search for a new HC.

Note: This is not addressed at any particular poster, so don't any of you crazy MF's dress up like your mother and try to stab me while I'm in the shower.

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1052911]lets not forget that it was Shanahan that created the cap penalty[/quote]

Jesus....Some people just don't get it, yes technically he and Bruce caused it. but we would have been in cap hell with the contracts given by the last regime if they didn't dump them all into the uncapped year.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1052915]This thread is filled with more stupid comments then I can remember in any other Warpath thread. And this time not all of them are mine!

This thread is so fueled by emotion that I think some of us may be losing our minds over the search for a new HC.

[B]Note: This is not addressed at any particular poster, so don't any of you crazy MF's dress up like your mother and try to stab me while I'm in the shower[/B].[/quote]

What??!!??

Folks the cap penalty probably saved us from ourselves. It was a blessing in diguise and the official blame in my eyes is Vinny/Danny, they were stupid enough to give that pos all that cash.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1052915]This thread is filled with more stupid comments then I can remember in any other Warpath thread. And this time not all of them are mine!

This thread is so fueled by emotion that I think some of us may be losing our minds over the search for a new HC.

Note: This is not addressed at any particular poster, so don't any of you crazy MF's dress up like your mother and try to stab me while I'm in the shower.[/quote]*Whistles innocently*
[IMG]http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/norman%20bates%20stabs%20in%20psycho.JPG[/IMG]

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1052334]This guy could be a darkhorse and has roots in the DC area having been an assistant at Maryland and JMU.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Franklin_%28American_football_coach%29]James Franklin (American football coach) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url][/QUOTE]
James Franklin has been a miracle worker at Vanderbilt. A friend of mine played for him when he was WR coach at Idaho State ('99) and says his motivation skills are off the charts. Definitely a dark horse, but if we're casting a wide net, he deserves a look.

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[quote=Chico23231;1052918]What??!!??[/quote]

Reference to the movie "Psycho". See the image posted above.

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Summation of redskins head coach rumors

[url=http://nfltraderumors.co/redskins-head-coach-rumors/]NFL Trade Rumors - Redskins Head Coach Rumors NFL Trade Rumors - |[/url]

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Sean McDermott seems like a hard ass. Something Washington needs. As long as we have an excellent OC for RG3 I don't care if the HC is O or D.

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[quote=HailGreen28;1052912]NO SHANNY DID NOT CREATE THE CAP PENALTY.

Vinny and Danny created the massive boondoggle contract for Haynesworth, and Hall too.

John Mara, Roger Goodell, and Jeff Lurie and other owners, actually created the cap "penalty".

All Shanahan did was have the contracts redone to pay out in the uncapped year. A restructuring that THE LEAGUE HAD TO ACTIVELY APPROVE to be implemented. And the league did approve the contracts. And even after the cap "penalty" they put in place two years after the fact, the league front office is quoted as saying the Redskins "broke no rules".

For all the stuff that did go wrong in Shanny's tenure, the cap "penalty" was definitely not his fault.[/quote]

disagree!! . . . they may have signed the players . . . but it was how Shanny decided to handle the situation of getting rid of the players that created the cap penalty . . .

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At this point I don't care who they hire, everyone has their opinion on it. This team will not be taken seriously until they achieve success and sustain it. Who knows it probably won't ever happen?

[QUOTE=SkinsGuru;1052932]disagree!! . . . they may have signed the players . . . but it was how Shanny decided to handle the situation of getting rid of the players that created the cap penalty . . .[/QUOTE]


So you would have kept Albert on the team? That would have worked%~{







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[QUOTE=redskins5044;1052934]At this point I don't care who they hire, everyone has their opinion on it. This team will not be taken seriously until they achieve success and sustain it. Who knows it probably won't ever happen?[/QUOTE]


This.. Who cares!! Vince Lombardi could come back from the dead to coach this team and Dan would find some way to screw that up.


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