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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1081417]I would say the colts OL is in worst shape than the Redskins.

[url=http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=nflnation&id=137878&src=desktop]NFL The Colts' offensive line is officially a mess - ESPN[/url][/quote]

They're doing a fairly good job against Denver's pass rush. Luck has been sacked a couple of times, but they've been giving Luck time to throw a couple times in the second half.

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[quote=mredskins;1081411]I hear you but the losing is getting to folks.

Riddle me this.

How many months has it been since the Redskins have won a meaningful game?[/quote]December 2012 - the win over Dallas to win the NFC East was the last win of consequence. It's pretty sad when you have a team full of playmakers, but can't challenge the opposing defense aside from passes to the short flat. I refuse to believe that Houston took away all other options on the field.

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I am not going to worry til week 3 is over. If we are 0-3 then we might be cooked. To be honest, I saw a bunch of mediocre football being played today all over the league, and last night as the Big Ten really stunk it up. I have a feeling this might be a very boring year for football all around. By week 6-7 of both NCAA and NFL, we will pretty know who is going to contend for the big enchilada. Right now it seems to be a rematch of last year, barring injuries, although San Francisco looked pretty good.

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I liked the "I" language in Robert's press conference.

Frustrated we didn't win, and especially didn't score more points. That said I think the D and special teams tackling was vastly improved. I hope that part of the game stays like that.

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The league was toying with the idea of moving the extra point spot back because they are so automatic but our guys stood in defense of tradition and proved that shit can be blocked if you suck enough. Proud of my guys.

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[quote=mredskins;1081411]I hear you but the losing is getting to folks.

Riddle me this.

How many months has it been since the Redskins have won a meaningful game?[/quote]

Dude, are you kidding me? We have been losing for almost two full decades, with some one round playoffs appearances. The last time the Skins fielded a really competitive team was in '99, and in that I mean a team that could have gone to the big dance. 2012 was nice, but we weren't as dominant as in '99. Gibbs' appearances were nice, but how are you going to get anywhere with Mark Brunell? The folks in here are diehards and losing is unfortunately second nature to us.

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[quote=Counter-Tre;1081430]The league was toying with the idea of moving the extra point spot back because they are so automatic but our guys stood in defense of tradition and proved that shit can be blocked if you suck enough. Proud of my guys.[/quote]


I am 99% certain that was Chester taking a play off and Watt was still playing hard.

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[quote=Hijinx;1081432]I am 99% certain that was Chester taking a play off and Watt was still playing hard.[/quote]

That was Chester being Chester.

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[url=http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=washington-redskins&id=10685&src=desktop&rand=ref~%7B%22ref%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FLD0iNhkLAr%22%7D]NFL Texans 17, Redskins 6: 10 observations - ESPN[/url]

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Watching some of the Skins highlights, C Cory Lichtensteiger was blown two yards off the ball. Causing Rg3 to trip and fumble the handoff. [/SIZE][/B]

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Alright, so this is a little late and I haven't read through the whole post game discussion, but here are some quick thoughts...

Hatcher looked good out there. He made a comment earlier this week about how his knee was still a little sore, plus he's 32 already, but as long as he's 100% , he'll be worth every penny.

JReed was a huge part of the game plan. Once he went down, things on offense were drastically changed. Some people here are complaining about Jay's game plan, but this needs to be taken into consideration.

I'm ready to admit that Griffin didn't play the best, but in his defense, the pass protection was horrible. I'm thinking of one play in particular where he had dropped just a couple of steps and Texans defenders were already coming through the middle of the line. Yeah, yeah, Morris ran for almost 100 yards, but they're obviously way better at run blocking than pass blocking.

Speaking of Morris, can the crap about him being a system back finally be put to rest? The thinking before was that he was a "Shanahan" back, but he ran for what, 91 yards with Gruden? This dude is a stud. I would say he's probably the 6th or 7th best back in the league.

LOL at the person who said we should cut Paul and Helu. I don't have anymore to say on that.

Andre Roberts is my hero. Any guy who can return kicks and punts like he did while playing for the Redskins... the Redskins... is a keeper.

JJ Watt is such an effing beast. He was literally the biggest reason we lost today.

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I don't agree about the game plan, doesn't matter if Jordan Reed is in there or not.
They ran the ball well and needed to run more. In a game where Morris was getting 7+ yards a run, he should've had 30 carries not 14.

I don't think Morris is a system back but Gruden is using Shanahans running playbook. Not changing a thing in the running game.

Reed either has the worst luck or is the softest player in the league.


[quote=SirLK26;1081453]Alright, so this is a little late and I haven't read through the whole post game discussion, but here are some quick thoughts...

Hatcher looked good out there. He made a comment earlier this week about how his knee was still a little sore, plus he's 32 already, but as long as he's 100% , he'll be worth every penny.

JReed was a huge part of the game plan. Once he went down, things on offense were drastically changed. Some people here are complaining about Jay's game plan, but this needs to be taken into consideration.

I'm ready to admit that Griffin didn't play the best, but in his defense, the pass protection was horrible. I'm thinking of one play in particular where he had dropped just a couple of steps and Texans defenders were already coming through the middle of the line. Yeah, yeah, Morris ran for almost 100 yards, but they're obviously way better at run blocking than pass blocking.

Speaking of Morris, can the crap about him being a system back finally be put to rest? The thinking before was that he was a "Shanahan" back, but he ran for what, 91 yards with Gruden? This dude is a stud. I would say he's probably the 6th or 7th best back in the league.

LOL at the person who said we should cut Paul and Helu. I don't have anymore to say on that.

Andre Roberts is my hero. Any guy who can return kicks and punts like he did while playing for the Redskins... the Redskins... is a keeper.

JJ Watt is such an effing beast. He was literally the biggest reason we lost today.[/quote]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1081319]Brian Orakpo? How about Perry Riley?[/quote]On the plus side Hatcher and Keenan Robinson were balling. Kerrigan forced a fumble when we absolutely needed a turnover to stay in the game. Rak is what he is. I've seen enough to know that he isn't nearly the player that he fancies himself to be. Kerrigan has always been the more impactful player when it comes to forcing turnovers. If Trent Murphy develops, the FO would do better to spend FA resources on the O-Line than giving Rak a monster deal.

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[quote=jamf;1081455]I don't agree about the game plan, doesn't matter if Jordan Reed is in there or not.
They ran the ball well and needed to run more. In a game where Morris was getting 7+ yards a run, he should've had 30 carries not 14.

I don't think Morris is a system back but Gruden is using Shanahans running playbook. Not changing a thing in the running game.

Reed either has the worst luck or is the softest player in the league.[/quote]

I don't think Reed is soft at all... quite the opposite, actually. He's just too reckless. Doesn't give a crap what happens to his body as long as he makes the play. Remember his long catch and run against Dallas last year where he trucked that Cowboys DB while running top speed? Most guys would slow down or hesitate a little, but not Reed.

Fair enough on Morris. I do agree he probably should have got more carries.

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[url=http://httr4life.com/gruden-post-game-texans-vs-redskins-9-7-2014/]Jay Gruden Post Game Press Conference: Texans vs Redskins 9-7-2014 (VIDEO) - HTTR4LIFE.com - HTTR4LIFE.com[/url]

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What sickens me right now is that yet again we have proved to have the worst yards-to-points ratio in the league. Our offense today, in terms of yards, was 13th in the league -- ahead of the Patriots (who scored 20), Texans (who beat us, 49ers (who scored 28), and Packers (who scored 16), for example. Yet EVERY team in the league, save the woeful Rams, scored more points than the Redskins. Eerily similar to last year in which we had a number of games with more yards, better time of possession, and even fewer turnovers and yet still managed to lose.

We have got to reverse that trend (and by that I don't mean lose the battle for yards, turnovers, etc.)

At least the Cowpukes got trucked and Philly had to scramble. I hope the Giants lose in Detroit tomorrow, so we'll at least have good company, and at least we didn't lose in our conference. Hard to get too down -- right now, we're even with the Patriots, Saints, Packers, and Ravens -- teams with a recent history of winning a lot of games. But we need to bring it next weel, for sure.

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Run game looked great...infact if we continued to stuff it down their throat the score would of been different.

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D looked good. Our defense only have up, what, 10 pts? Not bad. Special teams.....garbage. Offense....garbage. 6pts? Seriously? Anyone can say whatever...but Griff looks like he really can't read a defense. Time time time is what everyone wants. If I went to work everyday for 3 years and couldn't figure it out after being(one of) the highest rated prospect(s) in my field....I would be shit canned. Just saying....
Flame on, or whatever....but Griff doesn't look like he knows how to read a defense or run an offense consistently.

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To me the game plan seemed like they were scared. You can send a back or TE over to Watt's side. There were hardly any passes over 5 yards. You mean to tell me an NFL offense can't run Jackson and Garçon on 10 to 20 yard routes? Either the coaches are coddling Griffin, or he's playing like John Beck. In the end, the game came down to the blocked punt, block fg and the fumbles, 4 plays.

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It came down to everything you mention. When you get outcoached, and outplayed those mistakes will haunt you everytime. Good teams can sometimes overcome blunders. Bad teams never do.

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[quote=Ghost of George Allen;1081431]Dude, are you kidding me? We have been losing for almost two full decades, with some one round playoffs appearances. The last time the Skins fielded a really competitive team was in '99, and in that I mean a team that could have gone to the big dance. 2012 was nice, but we weren't as dominant as in '99. Gibbs' appearances were nice, but how are you going to get anywhere with Mark Brunell? [B]The folks in here are diehards and losing is unfortunately second nature to us.[/B][/quote]

Oh really? Thanks man I am new here didn't realize.

Always nice when a veteran poster takes you under his wing.

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Any updates on the injuries?

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[quote=mredskins;1081491]Oh really? Thanks man I am new here didn't realize.

Always nice when a veteran poster takes you under his wing.[/quote]

Lmao. Zing!

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we made good half time adjustments, but the playcalling in the first half was bad and not being able to throw it past 10 yards is pretty terrible. looks like the preseason woes carried over.

D looked good, two blocks on STs is terrible. but coverage and returns were better.

kind of a mixed bag overall. it looks fixable, but it also looks like there's a ways to go.

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We need a Decade Team or something. Like a special avatar saying you are in the decade club. That be kind of cool. I still got a year to go.

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Where is SS, is he still celebrating the Jets win?

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Only thing that bugs me, is how when RG is pressured he runds backwards. A few times had he stepped forward he wouldn't have been sacked, hurried or hit.
Offensive line - looked good running the ball. I think we needed some more runds in there, but given the untimely penalties made it a little more difficult. We basically gave up thowing the ball down the field. I thought we would have stetched the field a little more and at least given the texans something to think about.

all in all, the defense played good - only giving up one big play. Special teams again was a joke.
it will be a few weeks before people start calling for RG's resignation.

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^ a few weeks eh? Check Twitter or listen to the radio. Classic overreaction Monday.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1081486]To me the game plan seemed like they were scared. You can send a back or TE over to Watt's side. There were hardly any passes over 5 yards. You mean to tell me an NFL offense can't run Jackson and Garçon on 10 to 20 yard routes? Either the coaches are coddling Griffin, or he's playing like John Beck. In the end, the game came down to the blocked punt, block fg and the fumbles, 4 plays.[/quote]

certainly didnt look like we were calling pro pass plays. more of the same. holding onto the ball until you see your guy open vs getting rid of the ball on-time right before your guy makes his break and gets open ... maybe i missed it but did RG3 call a single audible or protection shift?

very disheartening start to see the same issues manifest itself.

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I think we need to wait until the bye week to start calling for RG3's head. At least then the season will be more than halfway over. No knee jerk decisions til then.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1081512]I think we need to wait until the bye week to start calling for RG3's head. At least then the season will be more than halfway over. No knee jerk decisions til then.[/quote]

If Skins lose ugly to Jax. Lord help them.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1081512]I think we need to wait until the bye week to start calling for RG3's head. At least then the season will be more than halfway over. No knee jerk decisions til then.[/quote]

I don't think anyone is calling for his head. What's so bothersome about yesterday is we basically ran a high school offense for most of the game. To me it's more on Gruden. He called the game like he was scared. Very easy to put a TE on Watt's side and take his ass out of the game. You have to try and push the ball down the field a little more.

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[quote=mredskins;1081513]If Skins lose ugly to Jax. Lord help them.[/quote]

Week two is already a must win game. lol.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1081519]Week two is already a must win game. lol.[/quote]

I hear you but if we are saying we are 7-9 8-8 team. Jax at home should make up one of those wins.

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[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2190896-mike-taniers-monday-morning-hangover-forget-the-flags]Mike Tanier's Monday Morning Hangover: Forget the Flags | Bleacher Report[/url]

Good little vid in the middle of this article on RGIII.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1081358]I agree the defense wasn't the problem, special teams cost them 8 points ..... fumbles cost them ??? points. A slow thinking QB, and a bad O-line cost them points too. RGIII holds the ball forever, he rarely makes quick down field throws.[/quote]

The defense played well, and played better than most expected. That being said, it was dissapointing that the defense had such a hard time getting off the field in the fourth quarter. I'm sure every fan of every bad team feels this way, but for the bulk of the Haslett era, it has felt as though the defense has struggled making quick fourth quarter stops when the game is still winnable. Houston had the ball for over 13 minutes in the 4th quarter and racked up nearly as many yards as they had in the previous three quarters combined.

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[quote=Coff;1081524][B]The defense played well, and played better than most expected. That being said, it was dissapointing that the defense had such a hard time getting off the field in the fourth quarter.[/B] I'm sure every fan of every bad team feels this way, but for the bulk of the Haslett era, it has felt as though the defense has struggled making quick fourth quarter stops when the game is still winnable. Houston had the ball for over 13 minutes in the 4th quarter and racked up nearly as many yards as they had in the previous three quarters combined.[/quote]

Can't complain about the defense yesterday. They gave up 10 points. Yeah Rambo still sucks but there was so many positives about yesterday. We have a legit ILB in Robinson. He looks like a complete football player and he's only going to get better.

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[QUOTE=mredskins;1081502]We need a Decade Team or something. Like a special avatar saying you are in the decade club. That be kind of cool. I still got a year to go.[/QUOTE]


Does the fact that i have posted more in two years than alot of the all decade team has in ten get me an avatar?

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[quote=skinsfan69;1081486]To me the game plan seemed like they were scared. You can send a back or TE over to Watt's side. There were hardly any passes over 5 yards. You mean to tell me an NFL offense can't run Jackson and Garçon on 10 to 20 yard routes? Either the coaches are coddling Griffin, or he's playing like John Beck. In the end, the game came down to the blocked punt, block fg and the fumbles, 4 plays.[/quote]

I think Gruden is very aware of the right side of the line's limitations. Maybe he didn't really believe the tape when Free Agency and Draft time came around, and wanted to see if he could get more out. But fact is, if the game plan had been skewed more to the deep throws, it would have been worse no matter who the QB was. And, the Skins adjusted and were getting consistent drives after the first one or two. Given that Houston had a new coach, we hadn't seen Clowney/Watt together, and they had their other star who was out most of last year back, I give the team a one week pass.

Now this week, no such thing. All the cards are on the table at this point.

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I didn't have a problem with the plan. We all knew quick passes were going to be called early and often, and that's what the Texans were willing to give all day. I think Gruden would have liked to take more shots, on the first sack Griffin was clearly looking down field. There was simply too much pressure to dial up more long developing plays. To me it just came down to those two turnovers. That's 2 potential TDs left on the field. The entire landscape of the game would have changed if we even just came away with 10 points.