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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1358489]Call him a little bitch, go tell him to paint his nails, then draft Daniels/Maye.[/quote]

This MF'er could wear a dress for all I care, as long as he can play on the field.

That being said, this could be a bargaining chip for a potential player exchange, IF, Peters and Quinn are interested in Caleb.

Also, we could see a Eli Manning/Phillip Rivers situation happening with another team.

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Yeah I mean if they have a chance to draft Caleb at 2 you run to that podium


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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1358499]That's one possibility.[/QUOTE]


LOL. I fuckin love subtle humor. It’s very underrated.

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[QUOTE=jamf;1358500]No. Simple reasoning is he was plan B at best for every coaching vacancy available.

I'm warming up to him as HC if he can get an offensive guru.
End of the day, I was hoping for the next McVay/McDaniel brainiac type guy.

That rah rah bullshit only gets you so far. the game is too complex now.
A coach like Marty Schottenheimer couldn't coach in today's game without elite coordinators.
Dan Campbell was smart by surrounding himself with former NFL players and a spacing guru with McDonald. Unfortunately he made a rah rah meathead decision that probably ended their season.

I like Quinn with Chip Kelly.
I don't like Quinn with Kubiacs son.[/QUOTE]


If you want rah rah we should get Carroll!
Not that you want rah rah just sayin…

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1358480]31. J.J. McCarthy QB Michigan
34. Brian Thomas Jr. WR LSU
38. Jordan Morgan OT Arizona
49. Michael Penix Jr. QB Washington
54. Chris Braswell EDGE Alabama
63. Edgerrin Cooper LB Texas A&M
67. Christian Haynes OG UConn
68. Ty'Ron Hopper LB Missouri
80. Jeremiah Trotter Jr. LB Clemson
82. James Williams S Miami (FL)
100. Josh Newton CB TCU
106. Roger Rosengarten OT Washington
118. Sataoa Laumea OT Utah
134. Jared Wiley TE TCU
150. Javion Cohen OG Miami (FL)
193. Will Putnam OC Clemson
2025 NE 2nd
2025 CIN 2nd
2025 KC 2nd
2025 NE 3rd[/QUOTE]


Love accepting every trade.

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[quote=punch it in;1358527]Love accepting every trade.[/quote]

Are you saying this isn't a realistic draft? LOL. Funny enough, that wasn't even accepting all of them. I said no to a few.

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harbaugh and McDonald were the two I really wanted.

Quinn is fine, just not exciting and the last game on his resume is awful. He should be able to pull in a better overall coaching staff, since he's been around forever and is well-liked.

If he gets the team to the playoffs, no one's going to be crying about what could have been or remember much about the coaching search at all.

If it doesn't work out, everyone willing be yelling about how they knew better from the start and how terrible of a decision this was. humans.

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So, with KK in the house, which of these scenarios seems most likely, if not another?

1) We stay at #2 and draft Maye (or Daniels?).*
2) We trade up and take Williams.
3) Williams does an Eli Manning and we trade QB's and picks after we take Maye @#2.

*My favoured choice at this point. KK should be able to work with any QB we go with, regardless of his relationship with Williams, and I'm a bit loathe to give up too many picks for moving up one spot.

3 might work out cheaper than 2 once the bears pick again, but I doubt the Bears would wait until then if they were even considering trading the #1. I think more likely they take Williams and that's that (aside from trading Fields).

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I'm kind of getting tired of the trade up for Caleb talk. Chicago is not going to pass on this type of talent, the conversation should stop right there. I see no value in spending next season's first and other high picks to move up one spot when there are 2 very highly rated QBs still available.

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1358644]I'm kind of getting tired of the trade up for Caleb talk. Chicago is not going to pass on this type of talent, the conversation should stop right there. I see no value in spending next season's first and other high picks to move up one spot when there are 2 very highly rated QBs still available.[/quote]

Caleb has said he doesn't want to play in Chicago.. I can't blame him. Its not a QB friendly weather city which is why Buffalo Took a dude with a Cannon for QB. There is a reason Kliff came to WSH, When there is this much smoke there is usually fire. Chicago has also not said one thing about trading Fields nor has any media outlet

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1358644]I'm kind of getting tired of the trade up for Caleb talk. Chicago is not going to pass on this type of talent, the conversation should stop right there. I see no value in spending next season's first and other high picks to move up one spot when there are 2 very highly rated QBs still available.[/quote]

the bears are on the hot seat, they too need to decide what is best

is a kings ransom worth it for Williams; keep fields and add the pieces around him, its basically roulette do they put all their chips Williams or spread their chips (they will have a lot of chips after the trade) out on other talent

imagine fields in SF offense; i bet he out performs purdy ; build a niners offense around fields

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The Howell train keeps on rollin' in 2024:

3. Marvin Harrison Jr. WR Ohio State
34. Jackson Powers-Johnson OC Oregon
36. Kingsley Suamataia OT BYU
40. Michael Penix Jr. QB Washington
67. Jeremiah Trotter Jr. LB Clemson
68. Ja'Tavion Sanders TE Texas
100. Roman Wilson WR Michigan
102. Johnny Dixon CB Penn State
137. Zak Zinter OG Michigan
180. Erick All TE Iowa
219. Kitan Oladapo S Oregon State
2025 NE 2nd

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I think w/ the hiring of KK, Caleb is in play.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1358714]I think w/ the hiring of KK, Caleb is in play.[/quote]

Unless he drops in our lap at 2, I don’t want him. I think he is the biggest risk/reward between himself, Maye , and Daniels.
Maye seems the least risk, as a prototypical QB size, decent athleticism, and big arm. Daniels is by far the best athlete of the three, and most high character in my eyes. I know little of Maye, but never heard a bad word about Daniels.

Hopefully it becomes a moot point when some other team drafts nail polish boy. 💅🏾

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Dan Quinn doesn't seem like the kinda guy that wants to start this job saddled to a QB with a lot of quirks.. I would be shocked if we do draft him he would be a problem .. KK has been around him .. look I got pissed when the Quinn hire went down BUT I didn't know the REAL story .. After learning the FACTS I'm on board with whatever they wanna do .. just WIN !!

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Unless there's a super in-frequent pre-draft trade, shit is gonna be wild on 4/25/2024.

It's nice to actually have real curiosity/excitement, rather than hoping somehow dick-fuck gets undeservedly lucky.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1358489]Call him a little bitch, go tell him to paint his nails, then draft Daniels/Maye.[/quote]

Do you know why he paints his nails?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1358648]Caleb has said he doesn't want to play in Chicago.. I can't blame him. Its not a QB friendly weather city which is why Buffalo Took a dude with a Cannon for QB. There is a reason Kliff came to WSH, When there is this much smoke there is usually fire. Chicago has also not said one thing about trading Fields nor has any media outlet[/quote]

Has he? All I've heard was a report by Collin Cowherd which he walked back later.

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He'll play wherever he's drafted. Gotta believe that is going to be Chicago.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1358755]He'll play wherever he's drafted. Gotta believe that is going to be Chicago.[/quote]

Likely, but there have been a few exceptions that stuck to their guns and at least one of which sat out the whole year prior to his rights being traded.

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[quote=nonniey;1358758]Likely, but there have been a few exceptions that stuck to their guns and at least one of which sat out the whole year prior to his rights being traded.[/quote]

is he that much better then the other two?

We get to caught up in the talking heads; much like with ben johnson

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1358706]The Howell train keeps on rollin' in 2024:

3. Marvin Harrison Jr. WR Ohio State
34. Jackson Powers-Johnson OC Oregon
36. Kingsley Suamataia OT BYU
40. Michael Penix Jr. QB Washington
67. Jeremiah Trotter Jr. LB Clemson
68. Ja'Tavion Sanders TE Texas
100. Roman Wilson WR Michigan
102. Johnny Dixon CB Penn State
137. Zak Zinter OG Michigan
180. Erick All TE Iowa
219. Kitan Oladapo S Oregon State
2025 NE 2nd[/quote]

If Peters could pull this off, this would be a ridiculous draft. I believe that Penix is still the best QB in this draft class for the pro game. To me he is the closest QB to Stroud. I don't want a ESPN highlight QB that throws 15 screens a game. Then you add 4 to 5 starters, this is what they need to do. This is how you get better quickly.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1358750]Do you know why he paints his nails?[/quote]

I really don't care too much about that. Yeah it's a little weird but so be it. It's the incredible hype machine that is behind him. It reminds me so much of Chase and RG3. Then when you look at his games against top competition, it's pretty much average to below average. Where is his CJ Stoud type of game against Georgia?

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1358706]The Howell train keeps on rollin' in 2024:
[/quote]

F that!

[IMG]https://gifdb.com/images/high/toy-train-wreck-smash-by-cat-vx40ljqsft0cixm3.gif[/IMG]

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That cat looks very much like my cat I had growing up. Jamf broke into my house and stole my homemade videos lol.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1358762]If Peters could pull this off, this would be a ridiculous draft. I believe that Penix is still the best QB in this draft class for the pro game. To me he is the closest QB to Stroud. I don't want a ESPN highlight QB that throws 15 screens a game. Then you add 4 to 5 starters, this is what they need to do. This is how you get better quickly.[/quote]

Everything looks good, except we need Edge with one of those picks.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1358782]Everything looks good, except we need Edge with one of those picks.[/QUOTE]


We got enough cap space to upgrade a couple areas away from the draft. Between the draft and FA we can literally put a much better roster together quickly. Peters needs to save us.
We are Princess Leia and he is Obi Wan Kenobi. He is our only hope.

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We've come a long ways Baby!!😀 Next is the Draft that's when it will start to shape up ! We won 4 games with Ron and fired JDR with Sam getting killed because EB didn't try to run so I see NO reason with a easier schedule a entire new staff a lot of new players we could easy win 8-9 games and that keeps us in it with a chance at wild card !

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Next is FA, then draft. FA activity should give us a pretty clear steer on draft strategy. If they don't get in a solid veteran backup it would suggest they're keeping Howell as at least a backup. If they go after more than 2-3 FA OL then I'd say that leans hard into a QB with the #2 or a trade up. They won't rely solely on the draft for protection if they think they'll get a franchise QB in the draft, especially if they lose picks in a trade up.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1358706]The Howell train keeps on rollin' in 2024:

3. Marvin Harrison Jr. WR Ohio State
34. Jackson Powers-Johnson OC Oregon
36. Kingsley Suamataia OT BYU
40. Michael Penix Jr. QB Washington
67. Jeremiah Trotter Jr. LB Clemson
68. Ja'Tavion Sanders TE Texas
100. Roman Wilson WR Michigan
102. Johnny Dixon CB Penn State
137. Zak Zinter OG Michigan
180. Erick All TE Iowa
219. Kitan Oladapo S Oregon State
2025 NE 2nd[/quote]

This would be MAGIC. I'm ok with taking a chance at another position at pick 100 and 180 tho

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no way we're not keeping howell. he's super cheap.

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[url]https://commanderswire.usatoday.com/2024/02/07/richard-sherman-commanders-arent-getting-kliff-kingsbury-to-draft-drake-maye/[/url]

Richard Sherman and I think the Commanders might make a BIG trade offer to Chicago for the #1 pick which will be Caleb Williams.

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[QUOTE=That Guy;1358800]no way we're not keeping howell. he's super cheap.[/QUOTE]

I tend to agree. I suppose you could get a late round draft pick for him, but if he's not guy, he's a very capable backup at almost no cost.

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Accidental duplicate post.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1358804]I tend to agree. I suppose you could get a late round draft pick for him, but if he's not guy, he's a very capable backup at almost no cost.[/quote]

If you keep him until another team gets desperate due to an injury or another coach's hubris makes him believe he can turn Howell into a star, then you might get considerable more than a late round pick, maybe even a couple of mid rounders.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1358763]I really don't care too much about that. Yeah it's a little weird but so be it. It's the incredible hype machine that is behind him. It reminds me so much of Chase and RG3. Then when you look at his games against top competition, it's pretty much average to below average. Where is his CJ Stoud type of game against Georgia?[/quote]

I dont even find it weird, he does it to honor his mom

in 2022 vs

Stanford
Utah
Arizona
California
The Bowl Game

2023

Washington
Stanford
Colorado
Arizona State

Justin Herbert didn't have a game in college that made you say OMG, had no problem getting drafted and we can all agree that robert getting hurt derailed him because that rookie season he was 100% looking like he was worth the hype. Every #1 pick is gonna get hype. I am not even saying trade up to go get him but people saying he is gonna be a bust because of finger nail polish, or because he cried when he lost is crazy.

Stroud had a hell of a game vs Clemson, he also was playing with top notch college WRs, Caleb hasnt had that, holding that ND game over his head like its the end all be all is short sighted

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1358811]I dont even find it weird, he does it to honor his mom

in 2022 vs

Stanford
Utah
Arizona
California
The Bowl Game

2023

Washington
Stanford
Colorado
Arizona State

Justin Herbert didn't have a game in college that made you say OMG, had no problem getting drafted and [B]we can all agree that robert getting hurt derailed him [/B]because that rookie season he was 100% looking like he was worth the hype. Every #1 pick is gonna get hype. I am not even saying trade up to go get him but people saying he is gonna be a bust because of finger nail polish, or because he cried when he lost is crazy.

Stroud had a hell of a game vs Clemson, he also was playing with top notch college WRs, Caleb hasnt had that, holding that ND game over his head like its the end all be all is short sighted[/quote]

I'm not ready to agree that Robert getting hurt derailed his career. What derailed his career was his ego and inability to deliver the ball on time to the right receiver from the pocket.

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1358814]I'm not ready to agree that Robert getting hurt derailed his career. What derailed his career was his ego and inability to deliver the ball on time to the right receiver from the pocket.[/quote]

I dont think anyone can say that his injuries had nothing to do with his downfall, other things were a part of it, but his athletic ability and speed dropped with his leg injuries which hurt him from being able to get away from pressure like he could that first year

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[quote=Meks;1358796]This would be MAGIC. I'm ok with taking a chance at another position at pick 100 and 180 tho[/quote]

If you believe in Penix, it's great.

I would not be in favor at all. You can't come out of this draft without your QB of the future or multiple extra future firsts.

I personally wouldn't draft Penix in the top 4 rounds. He's gonna be injured, like always, in my opinion.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1358805][url]https://commanderswire.usatoday.com/2024/02/07/richard-sherman-commanders-arent-getting-kliff-kingsbury-to-draft-drake-maye/[/url]

Richard Sherman and I think the Commanders might make a BIG trade offer to Chicago for the #1 pick which will be Caleb Williams.[/quote]

Good God I hope not.