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hesscl34 09-15-2008 05:05 PM

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[quote=Paintrain;477232]JC said it on Comcast last night, QB gets too much credit for wins and most of the blame for losses.

He's got 3 300 yard games, 6 games with 60% or higher completion percentage and has 8-4 TD-INT over the past 8 full games.. That's what we call in the English language "progress"..

I know this won't silence the relentless criticism but hopefully it will get them to STFU for a week or so.[/quote]

It's not TRUE progress until you do it week and and week out and you WIN those games. However, Sunday was a step in the right direction.

dmvskinzfan08 09-15-2008 05:10 PM

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[quote=Paintrain;477232]JC said it on Comcast last night, QB gets too much credit for wins and most of the blame for losses.
[/quote]

Repeat answer..Couldn't say it better

vaoutlaws2006 09-15-2008 05:16 PM

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im not much on stats...but i think all the campbell doubters need to see this.......


39 of 63...thats 61.9%....454 yards....94.3 qb rating...2 tds and NO ints....

whats not to like about that?

dmvskinzfan08 09-15-2008 05:19 PM

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I am sure they will find something..lol

vaoutlaws2006 09-15-2008 05:23 PM

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[quote=dmvskinzfan08;477261]I am sure they will find something..lol[/quote]



LOL...you couldnt be more right about that. i left out 0 fumbles too....JC made my day yesterday. I was happy as you wouldnt believe to see him play the way he did. And to see portis play at the level he played at...on offense i think we may have turned a corner yesterday.

GusFrerotte 09-15-2008 05:27 PM

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Hope he keeps it up. First time in a long time the Skins have fulfilled there potential in a game. This better not be just a flash in the pan. The Cards maybe even better than the Saints.

mooby 09-16-2008 01:19 AM

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[quote=hesscl34;477248]It's not TRUE progress until you do it week and and week out and you WIN those games. However, Sunday was a step in the right direction.[/quote]

I think it shows progress, not complete progress but some. Bad quarterbacks may get credit when they win games, but that still doesn't make them good quarterbacks. Winning games will become easier when JC becomes better. That's why most elite quarterbacks win a lot of games. When they struggle though, that's when the team is worse off.

irish 09-16-2008 07:07 AM

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[quote=vaoutlaws2006;477255]im not much on stats...but i think all the campbell doubters need to see this.......


39 of 63...thats 61.9%....454 yards....94.3 qb rating...2 tds and NO ints....

whats not to like about that?[/quote]

I like it but keep in mind its only 1 game. Lets see those stats at the end of the season and then we can decide what's to like and not like.

jdlea 09-16-2008 08:28 AM

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[quote=irish;477361]I like it but keep in mind its only 1 game. Lets see those stats at the end of the season and then we can decide what's to like and not like.[/quote]

It's actually more like 2 games, but whatever

JLee9718 09-16-2008 03:55 PM

Re: JC is not what I thought.
 
Okay, so I didn't have faith in JC. I guess Jim Zorn did, because that was a beautiful game. I'm not even going to complain about RE or the punting. It was a nice way to win, and it was a game that we would have lost under NT up until JZ.

Paintrain 09-16-2008 04:01 PM

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[quote=hesscl34;477248]It's not TRUE progress until you do it week and and week out and you WIN those games. However, Sunday was a step in the right direction.[/quote]

Some fans just seem to have no concept of how the game actually works. In those games that he played exceptionally but we didn't win, did he have 4 turnovers in our first 6 possessions against TB? Did he get burned for 4 TD by TO in Dallas? To pin the loss on him for throwing INT at the end of those games reinforces a lack of knowledge of a QB learning how to win in the NFL.

He can control what he does and his game to game improvement. He can be 21-22, 375, 5 TD and we can lose 38-35, does that mean he didn't improve enough because the team didn't win?

GridIron26 09-16-2008 11:43 PM

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Thought this is good article about JC

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/15/AR2008091502907.html]washingtonpost.com[/url]

Maybe he's starting to get it..

RedskinPete 09-17-2008 05:44 AM

Re: JC is not what I thought.
 
[quote=vaoutlaws2006;477255]im not much on stats...but i think all the campbell doubters need to see this.......


39 of 63...thats 61.9%....454 yards....94.3 qb rating...2 tds and NO ints....

whats not to like about that?[/quote] Love the stats and the win. But look back at the game if you have it. JC is always looking at who he is going to throw to. At the started of the game he had a few of his players just lite up! On the NFL network they said the samething on monday. If I can see this so can any NFL coach. He has to look off D players to get his guys open. You have to say we were a bite lucky to have a starter CB go down and pick on him in the second hafe! I will take it!

vaoutlaws2006 09-17-2008 07:23 AM

Re: JC is not what I thought.
 
[quote=RedskinPete;477695]Love the stats and the win. But look back at the game if you have it. JC is always looking at who he is going to throw to. At the started of the game he had a few of his players just lite up! On the NFL network they said the samething on monday. If I can see this so can any NFL coach. He has to look off D players to get his guys open. You have to say we were a bite lucky to have a starter CB go down and pick on him in the second hafe! I will take it![/quote]


Dont get me wrong here...Im not ready to declare JC our savior. He is a work in progress...I am hoping as some of the other JC supporters that last week will serve as a point where he might have turned a corner. There was alot of positives about his play sunday as well as some negatives but sometimes you gotta take the good with the bad. Lets see what he does this weekend.

over the mountain 09-17-2008 11:20 AM

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bringing zorn in is already paying dividends. campbell def looked better out there and the playcalling seemed to adapt to him alil as well. that was awesome to see JC do the avoid, reset, throw to moss after zorn and others spent so much time talking about that same play against the giants where JC avoided but then didnt reset right away. it was awesome to see the skins adjustments from game 1 to game 2 and from halftime and in each game so far.

i am really starting to buy into zorn's abilities big time. he identified problems from game 1 and clearly made adjustments to address those problems. i love it, cant wait till next year when we will be a legit contender for a lombardi!!!!

go skins!!


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