Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=MTK;1186837]You can bet Kirk’s camp will watching Jimmy G’s situation closely. I don’t think he’s got the resume to demand top money but I can see him getting in the range of $20M per year.[/quote]

I get what you are saying, but at this point KC's team (and the FO) has tons of data as to where KC's contract should fall. It is ridiculous to look at any other QB, because with the double franchise tag, KC's outside of any normal scope.

I think all Skins fans are simply exhausted and done with this drama. Just let it be over.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=Buffalo Bob;1186839]I will take the over on that $20 mil, SF has a huge amount of cap space and QB salaries have been escalating like crazy. I will venture a guess he gets in the neighborhood of $25 mil.[/quote]


[quote=MTK;1186842]So Derek Carr/ Andrew Luck money after 7 games? I’ll be impressed if they pull that off.[/quote]


With close to the same personnel in the last two years four QBs combined for a 3-24 record for the 49ers. Jimmy G steps in and goes 5-0 with 2 of those wins against play-off teams. The 49ers moved recently to a new stadium that was starting to get pretty empty with a lot of fans wanting the owners to sell the team. I have a feeling the Yorks will open the bank vault for him.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1186846]I get what you are saying, but at this point KC's team (and the FO) has tons of data as to where KC's contract should fall. It is ridiculous to look at any other QB, because with the double franchise tag, KC's outside of any normal scope.

[B]I think all Skins fans are simply exhausted and done with this drama. Just let it be over.[/quote]
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Yep, at this point IDC either way.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1186846]I get what you are saying, but at this point KC's team (and the FO) has tons of data as to where KC's contract should fall. It is ridiculous to look at any other QB, because with the double franchise tag, KC's outside of any normal scope.

[B][I]I think all Skins fans are simply exhausted and done with this drama. Just let it be over.[/I][/B][/quote]

Exactly! We just want it to be done and over with, whatever the outcome. I hope we keep Kirk, but if not, let's move on and see what happens.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=MTK;1186837]You can bet Kirk’s camp will watching Jimmy G’s situation closely. I don’t think he’s got the resume to demand top money but I can see him getting in the range of $20M per year.[/quote]

seriously? i'd take Garoppolo over Cousins any day . . . all he did was look terrific in NE . . . then get traded and take a 1 win team to 5-0 under his QB play . . . the 49ers would have been better off not playing him and going 0 - 5 over those games instead . . . the would have had a better pick and a lower cost to sign him

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

It’s easy to fall in love with a player over 5 games. Let’s see how he looks over the course of a full season when DC’s have some time to study up on him. Don’t get me wrong I like him, I think we need to pump the brakes on a guy with such a limited sample of games.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=MTK;1186864]It’s easy to fall in love with a player over 5 games. Let’s see how he looks over the course of a full season when DC’s have some time to study up on him. Don’t get me wrong I like him, I think we need to pump the brakes on a guy with such a limited sample of games.[/quote]

Agree. Defenses don't even have enough tape on file yet to study his weaknesses. Once they figure out his weaknesses they'll gameplan for him. Then we'll really see how good he is - can he adapt?

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

kyle Shanny is a heck of an offensive coach...eager to see how they build the O. Jimmy G is gonna be solid...interested to see who Kyle adds at RB.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=MTK;1186864]It’s easy to fall in love with a player over 5 games. Let’s see how he looks over the course of a full season when DC’s have some time to study up on him. Don’t get me wrong I like him, I think we need to pump the brakes on a guy with such a limited sample of games.[/quote]

Once again I REVERT BACK TO DAK last yr... Even some guys here were saying "dude is going to be a star" and now look... He's avg at best

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=MTK;1186864]It’s easy to fall in love with a player over 5 games. Let’s see how he looks over the course of a full season when DC’s have some time to study up on him. Don’t get me wrong I like him, I think we need to pump the brakes on a guy with such a limited sample of games.[/quote]



[quote=Schneed10;1186866]Agree. Defenses don't even have enough tape on file yet to study his weaknesses. Once they figure out his weaknesses they'll gameplan for him. Then we'll really see how good he is - can he adapt?[/quote]

Have you watched him play? He seems to be one of those guys that can feel the rush, like he has eyes in the back of his head. He also seems to be able to move well in a confined space and has a quick reaction time. He seems to have a lot of those intangibles you can't teach.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=Schneed10;1186866]Agree. Defenses don't even have enough tape on file yet to study his weaknesses. Once they figure out his weaknesses they'll gameplan for him. Then we'll really see how good he is - can he adapt?[/quote]

It takes 3-4 years of good QB play to know who is really legit or not... Kirk has proven to be that good, been 3 years now... Jimmy G? we'll see in a couple yrs

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

Cousins saga needs to end so I can get to accurately mock drafting based on our roster. Now I have to do 2 each time, but they both just feel pointless and fake (even tho it's always fake lol).

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=Buffalo Bob;1186869]Have you watched him play? He seems to be one of those guys that can feel the rush, like he has eyes in the back of his head. He also seems to be able to move well in a confined space and has a quick reaction time. He seems to have a lot of those intangibles you can't teach.[/quote]

Defenses study tape to know what preferences a qb has in his movements. With no real tape on him, the defenders might be coming at him in more vanilla ways.

He might be great, or good, but the sample size at the end of a season you just can't know for sure.

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

Troy Renck ABC Denver

Reality is #Broncos need to massage salary cap. They will pursue Cousins. But have to have enough money for him and to address other needs. Elway also did not rule out change at WR. As I have said for weeks, it would not be surprise if 1 vet -between DT and Emmanuel- not back.


Would you trade Kirk for DT and a 2nd round pick? Would denver do that?

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1186877]Troy Renck ABC Denver

Reality is #Broncos need to massage salary cap. They will pursue Cousins. But have to have enough money for him and to address other needs. Elway also did not rule out change at WR. As I have said for weeks, it would not be surprise if 1 vet -between DT and Emmanuel- not back.


Would you trade Kirk for DT and a 2nd round pick? Would denver do that?[/quote]

Keep DT and give me your 1st or 2nd and 3rd.