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I think we will sign fletcher at some point, but my guess is he will be some where in the three to four million dollar range. If he really wanted 7-9 million, he wont be to happy. Unfortunately for him, thats market.

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[quote=Chico23231;902948]I wouldnt be opposed to bring him in and give him a look. I dont see him as a guy that is motivated, which may be his problem.

[B]Gotta say, little disappointed in the Skins effort in FA to improve the team. [/B]Little headway in the secondary and Oline. Great effort to get a QB and WRs which is awesome, but not resigning Fletch is troubling as well.

So are we taking the chance with Kory L coming off a serious knee injury who wont be able to step on the field to possibly late august? Or Jamal Brown while still decent in run blocking, but is horrible pass blocker?

At this time we still have no answer at safety other than Maryweather(feminine spelling until he proves otherwise) who has struggled immensely the last 2 years at safety. A good friend who is a Vikings fan, first thing he said about C Griffin "talented, but takes alotta plays off. Needs to be motivated to give 90%". We have 3 spots at safety and 2 spots at CB including nickle where we need bodies. Gomes is the only guy worth returning at safety, he could challenge for a starters spot which is promising.

We need to grab some remaining talent. Our picks in the 3rd and 4th rounds are extremely important.

We need to pick it up a little bit, letting Josh Johnson get away is disappointing.[/quote]

O Line was not as bad as most are making it seem. We did pretty average with TWO backup tackles at the end of the season. I bet if we paid big money to those back up tackles on the FA market you would complain still. Can we get past the draft?

Also, whats so good about Josh Johnson? Guy doesn't know the offense half as well as Rex. If we got him we would essentially have 2 rookie QBs coming in. Would have been nice to get it but it's not a big deal and nowhere near a disappointment.

We have had worse Free Agency periods where we went out and got the people we needed but overpaid. We're in good shape.

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I'm perfectly fine with Grossman as the backup. His decision-making and at times his accuracy and throwing ability blows goats, but he does know the offense very well and can help Griffin learn the playbook.

Also, there's NO chance of him challenging Griffin for the job. As long as he's content being the teacher and backup, he's a far better backup to have than an outsider.

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[quote=Chico23231;902948]I wouldnt be opposed to bring him in and give him a look. I dont see him as a guy that is motivated, which may be his problem.

Gotta say, little disappointed in the Skins effort in FA to improve the team. Little headway in the secondary and Oline. Great effort to get a QB and WRs which is awesome, but not resigning Fletch is troubling as well.

So are we taking the chance with Kory L coming off a serious knee injury who wont be able to step on the field to possibly late august? Or Jamal Brown while still decent in run blocking, but is horrible pass blocker?

At this time we still have no answer at safety other than Maryweather(feminine spelling until he proves otherwise) who has struggled immensely the last 2 years at safety. A good friend who is a Vikings fan, first thing he said about C Griffin "talented, but takes alotta plays off. Needs to be motivated to give 90%". We have 3 spots at safety and 2 spots at CB including nickle where we need bodies. Gomes is the only guy worth returning at safety, he could challenge for a starters spot which is promising.

We need to grab some remaining talent. Our picks in the 3rd and 4th rounds are extremely important.

We need to pick it up a little bit, letting Josh Johnson get away is disappointing.[/quote]

Can't fix everything in one year. As far as the o-line is concerned I think that they think that the younger guys that got some time last year will improve.

The secondary is a potential disaster. You said it....They need to REALLY strike gold with the 3rd and 4th rounders and hopefully those picks will be secondary and 0-line. Those two guys might have to be starters or play significant time.

Josh Johnson?? Really??? :confused:

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[quote=Monkeydad;903124]I'm perfectly fine with Grossman as the backup. His decision-making and at times his accuracy and throwing ability blows goats, but he does know the offense very well and can help Griffin learn the playbook.

[B]Also, there's NO chance of him challenging Griffin for the job[/B]. As long as he's content being the teacher and backup, he's a far better backup to have than an outsider.[/quote]

What scares me is that Shanahan will say..." we're going to play the guy who gives us the best chance to win!" And then comes Rex to start the season. We all know he doesn't like to play young guys. We may not see RG3 til mid season.

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[quote=skinsfan69;903134]What scares me is that Shanahan will say..." we're going to play the guy who gives us the best chance to win!" And then comes Rex to start the season. We all know he doesn't like to play young guys. We may not see RG3 til mid season.[/quote]

i really, really hope this doesnt happen, i really cant see it happening considering how bad rex played. RG3 gives us the best chance i beleive, i think he will pick up things fairly quickly in the full offseason. There will be hiccups but thats expected.

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[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;903136]i really, really hope this doesnt happen, i really cant see it happening considering how bad rex played. RG3 gives us the best chance i beleive, i think he will pick up things fairly quickly in the full offseason. There will be hiccups but thats expected.[/quote]
Dont worry. He said that with Rex and was right. Said with fat ass Albert and was right. RG3 will start day one, barring he turns out to be a complete idiot.

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[quote=skinsfan69;903132][B]Can't fix everything in one year. As far as the o-line is concerned I think that they think that the younger guys that got some time last year will improve. [/B]

The secondary is a potential disaster. You said it....They need to REALLY strike gold with the 3rd and 4th rounders and hopefully those picks will be secondary and 0-line. Those two guys might have to be starters or play significant time.

Josh Johnson?? Really??? :confused:[/quote]

how many more years Shanny got? Id really like Mo Hurt to step up on the inside at Guard, think he can improve and make a difference. RT is a serious issue, amazed this hasnt been addressed.

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[quote=Chico23231;902948]I wouldnt be opposed to bring him in and give him a look. I dont see him as a guy that is motivated, which may be his problem.

Gotta say, little disappointed in the Skins effort in FA to improve the team. Little headway in the secondary and Oline. Great effort to get a QB and WRs which is awesome, but not resigning Fletch is troubling as well.

So are we taking the chance with Kory L coming off a serious knee injury who wont be able to step on the field to possibly late august? Or Jamal Brown while still decent in run blocking, but is horrible pass blocker?

At this time we still have no answer at safety other than Maryweather(feminine spelling until he proves otherwise) who has struggled immensely the last 2 years at safety. A good friend who is a Vikings fan, first thing he said about C Griffin "talented, but takes alotta plays off. Needs to be motivated to give 90%". We have 3 spots at safety and 2 spots at CB including nickle where we need bodies. Gomes is the only guy worth returning at safety, he could challenge for a starters spot which is promising.

We need to grab some remaining talent. Our picks in the 3rd and 4th rounds are extremely important.

We need to pick it up a little bit, letting Josh Johnson get away is disappointing.[/quote]The Patriots added about 3.5 (using AV as a measuring stick) times as much vet talent as the Redskins did, using about half the cap space to do so.

It can be done, but the Redskins obviously felt their entire roster was really close to being playoff-caliber, just was short on the end of passing and receiving.

So now that those needs are taken care of: super bowl!


[quote=Chico23231;903152]how many more years Shanny got? Id really like Mo Hurt to step up on the inside at Guard, think he can improve and make a difference. RT is a serious issue, amazed this hasnt been addressed.[/quote]Here's why nothing this team does surprises me: I saw Casey Rabach start 32 games AFTER I realized he was a known weakness on the offensive line that opposing coordinators would exploit. Then after those 32 games, Shanahan gave him (and Mike Williams!) a 3 year contract extension. And he arguably played worse for Shanahan/Forester than he did for Zorn/Bugel.

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[quote=mooby;902898]Didn't you want Franklin?[/quote]I didn't want to give Franklin actual money. I thought Cofield would be the better nose tackle RoC (rest of career). I still think that.

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[quote=skinsfan69;903134]What scares me is that Shanahan will say..." we're going to play the guy who gives us the best chance to win!" And then comes Rex to start the season. We all know he doesn't like to play young guys. We may not see RG3 til mid season.[/quote]

Call me crazy, but I don't see a snowball's chance in hell of that happening. Griffin is too smart and too talented to not have on the field, especially after what we gave up for him. Even if it means scaling back the playbook for him, he will be out there.

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Why the hate for Josh Johnson? I personally dont think he is a bad player and see him as 3rd QB who could push then replace Rex as the no 2 this year or next year. i was disappointed

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i think we might be out of cap space until the fine gets reduced or players restructure.

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So, Anthony Collins re-signed with the Bengals. Do we have any other plans to improve our OL in free agency? Offer Demetrius Bell a one year contract, make him prove it. I hear the Bills are only offering a one year vet min. Give him a bit more. See how he does. At worst, he's solid depth.

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[quote=GTripp0012;903166]I didn't want to give Franklin actual money. I thought Cofield would be the better nose tackle RoC (rest of career). I still think that.[/quote]

Look for Chris Neild to get a lot of playing time @ NT this coming season.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;903302]Look for Chris Neild to get a lot of playing time @ NT this coming season.[/quote]

Next years NT class will be better. We can use our first round pick on one in 2013.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;903303]Next years NT class will be better. We can use our first round pick on one in 2013.[/quote]

We won't have a 1st round draft pick in 2013 or the year after.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;903304]We won't have a 1st round draft pick in 2013 or the year after.[/quote]

But but but next years class.....it's better. Why would the front office do such a thing?

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so stallworth is gone to the pats and eric henderson signs a 1 year deal... the MLB/ILB market has been terrible for the players.

tulloch only get 25 in a 5 year deal, henderson takes a 1year, demeco goes to the team that was interested in fletcher...

maybe we can get him cheap cheap... llike 3-4mill a year.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;903305]But but but next years class.....it's better. Why would the front office do such a thing?[/quote]

You mean give significant playing time to Neild? Because he's coming off of a decent rookie season. He sacked Eli Manning twice in his first NFL game. Cofiled is the starter at NT, but expect Neild to figure significantly into their plans. They very well could draft another nose tackle, but it would be in the mid to late rounds of this year's draft.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;903333]You mean give significant playing time to Neild? Because he's coming off of a decent rookie season. He sacked Eli Manning twice in his first NFL game. Cofiled is the starter at NT, but expect Neild to figure significantly into their plans. They very well could draft another nose tackle, but it would be in the mid to late rounds of this year's draft.[/quote]

I think you are taking Dirt seriously when in fact he is just playing around. He is playful because he is in deep denial of the truth that next year's draft class is ALWAYS better. Poor man.

We should just skip the draft this year because there is no one worth taking until next year.

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[quote=Lotus;903336]I think you are taking Dirt seriously when in fact he is just playing around. He is playful because he is in deep denial of the truth that next year's draft class is ALWAYS better. Poor man.

[B]We should just skip the draft this year because there is no one worth taking until next year[/B].[/quote]

That's what I was thinking.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;903302]Look for Chris Neild to get a lot of playing time @ NT this coming season.[/quote]

He played well in the time he saw last season, I do believe he has a bright future, and with the skins.

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Chris Neild is a beast.

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oh man we are looking sick a few more signings and we could have a deep playoff run!

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[quote=redskinsflow;903419]oh man we are looking sick a few more signings and we could have a deep playoff run![/quote]

Mike Shanahan has to do something this coming season with this being year 3. He has a playoff caliber defense. He's in position to draft a franchise quarterback and he and Bruce Allen have signed key free agent wide receivers to make the offense much more explosive than it has been. Anything less than a 9-7 record is uncivilized.

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thats kyles new account here...

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Moved.

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^ That means London's deal should be coming soon.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;903450]^ That means London's deal should be coming soon.[/quote]


Dunno about that. Not if he's still looking for 7-8mil per season.

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[quote=NC_Skins;903458]Dunno about that. Not if he's still looking for 7-8mil per season.[/quote]

I really hope London is reasonable about his deal given the LB market. I don't blame him for trying to get one good deal, but all of these signings are not helping him.

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They need to give Fletcher his contract. Regardless of his age, look at what he's meant to not only the defense, but to the Redskins team in general. They should give him whatever he's asking for.

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Who's left we need to sign:

Fletch LB
Gay CB
McNeil RT
Rachal G

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;903470]They need to give Fletcher his contract. Regardless of his age, look at what he's meant to not only the defense, but to the Redskins team in general. They should give him whatever he's asking for.[/quote]

even if its $100mill?

no, they should be reasonable and let a 37 year old walk if he tries to hold them hostage. what has he meant to the redskins? 5-11? another top 5 pick? I'm all for keeping him, but not at any cost. Our D had issues covering people, and he wasn't stellar in that regard either.

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[quote=That Guy;903486]even if its $100mill?

no, they should be reasonable and let a 37 year old walk if he tries to hold them hostage. what has he meant to the redskins? 5-11? another top 5 pick? I'm all for keeping him, but not at any cost. Our D had issues covering people, and he wasn't stellar in that regard either.[/quote]

Of course not. Nobody is worth $100 million dollars and I doubt if Fletcher is asking for that much. Fletcher may want a long term deal. The Redskins might want to give him something short term. Fletcher may want something in the range of $35 million dollars over five seasons. The Redskins may want to give him something the range of $9 million dollars over two years. But I'm just speculating here. They may be closer to a deal than we think.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;903491]Of course not. Nobody is worth $100 million dollars and I doubt if Fletcher is asking for that much. Fletcher may want a long term deal. The Redskins might want to give him something short term. Fletcher may want something in the range of $35 million dollars over five seasons. The Redskins may want to give him something the range of $9 million dollars over two years. But I'm just speculating here. They may be closer to a deal than we think.[/quote]

He's wanting 3y/24mil. The Skins have put a 3yr/18mil contract up. It's not like the SKins are low balling him. IN fact, he'll never get 3yr/18mil on the open market.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;903470]They need to give Fletcher his contract. Regardless of his age, look at what he's meant to not only the defense, but to the Redskins team in general. They should give him whatever he's asking for.[/quote]

F that. He is being a bit ridiculous, especially when you take into account age and the going rate on MLB's. He needs to be a bit more reasonable, and quit asking for 8-9 mil a year. Bring it down to 5-6, and we would still be overpaying for him.

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Given how long he's been hanging out there, chances are good he will bite and take the Skins offer. It's just a matter of time.

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3 years for $18 million isn't that bad a deal. I hadn't heard any specifics pertaining to London Fletcher's contract negotiations. That's 5-6 million a year. The only way Fletcher says no is if any NFL club offers him more than that. But I doubt if they will.

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[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d827da47f/article/redskins-fletcher-deal-talks-reportedly-stalling-due-to-penalty?module=HP11_headline_stack]NFL.com news: Redskins, Fletcher deal talks reportedly stalling due to penalty[/url]

No shit, I hope the arbitrator favors the skins and cowboys and get this resolved.