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[quote=skinsfaninok;1188960][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/22/could-an-unexpected-team-enter-the-chase-for-kirk-cousins/]Could an unexpected team enter the chase for Kirk Cousins? – ProFootballTalk[/url]

Dallas?[/quote]

This is nearly always when the agent starts feeling like he is not going to get what he wants in negotiations. Any team interested in KC would certainly have been in the know by now.

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[quote=MTK;1188968]He’s not going to Dallas... man this shit has gone off the rails[/quote]

He's most likely not but to say it's impossible is false, we have all seen crazier shit happen

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All I will say is Lawrence is tagged,soon Zek and Dak will need contracts and Dallas is going to go after a receiver soon. With what they would have to pay KC ....yes it is impossible.

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Slow news day I guess

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[quote=MTK;1188957]FFS with this thread[/quote]


[url]https://operations.nfl.com/football-ops/league-governance/2018-important-nfl-dates/[/url]

"[B][COLOR="Red"]March 6 Prior to 4:00 p.m[/COLOR][/B]., New York time, deadline for clubs to designate Franchise or Transition Players."

So close. And yet so far away. March. The sixth. Four PM.

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You guys are too much. I have a different opinion, but I have 0 care if I'm wrong about what happens. You're so sure you're right that you don't even want to hear other opinions so badly that you're waiting for the hour that people can't have a differing opinion? Whatever guys, I'll stop posting about a tag and trade possibility.

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[quote=WillH;1188975]You guys are too much. I have a different opinion, but I have 0 care if I'm wrong about what happens. You're so sure you're right that you don't even want to hear other opinions so badly that you're waiting for the hour that people can't have a differing opinion? Whatever guys, I'll stop posting about a tag and trade possibility.

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Everyone's allowed to have their opinion, man... It's just getting far fetched and the risk of hurting the team is very high... hey, I would love to tag and trade, but instead of over hyping a very small percentage chance that happens... ... we're on to Alex Smith. Next question lol

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1188974][url]https://operations.nfl.com/football-ops/league-governance/2018-important-nfl-dates/[/url]

"[B][COLOR="Red"]March 6 Prior to 4:00 p.m[/COLOR][/B]., New York time, deadline for clubs to designate Franchise or Transition Players."

So close. And yet so far away. March. The sixth. Four PM.[/quote]

Right? Lol end this fucking circus peanut riddled bullshit already im sick of it.

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[quote=WillH;1188975]You guys are too much. I have a different opinion, but I have 0 care if I'm wrong about what happens. You're so sure you're right that you don't even want to hear other opinions so badly that you're waiting for the hour that people can't have a differing opinion? Whatever guys, I'll stop posting about a tag and trade possibility.

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Yeah hey man we can't post shit that was first reported by other sources such as Mike Florio or writers at ESPN, We have PRO WRITERS on this site that will say "stop posting bs".... that we didn't even come up with....... Got it

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1188953]First. The cap issue is that we have 48M right now (overthecap.com) KC franchise is 34M. Alex Smith is at least 17M but the new extension pushes it to 19-20M.
Last I checked 34 + 20 is greater than 48. So in order to play the tag game with KC and sign AS we would have to cut 6M in salary cap space for a risky ploy to up a draft spot 1 year and 1 round. And then we still couldn't try to sign our guys like Breeland or Zach Brown who aren't counted in our cap right now.

Further I don't think we need to make a big splash, but IF a player comes available, then it's stupid to sit in a self imposed cap hell and not be able to go after them.

edit:
Redskins FAs not currently counted in the 48M cap (would be lost in failed tag and trade effort)
Shawn Lauvao,
center Spencer Long,
linebacker Zach Brown Will Compton and Chris Carter,
cornerback Bashaud Breeland.
wide receivers Terrelle Pryor Sr. and Brian Quick,
tight end Niles Paul,
kicker Dustin Hopkins, defensive lineman Phil Taylor Sr.,
safety DeAngelo Halland
offensive lineman Tony Bergstrom

Not all of those are critical, but they all have to be accounted for.[/QUOTE]This is a very good argument and why I mostly think "it" won't happen. I do think "it's" possible, there are ways to make some more room and sign some of our guys, and ZB probably will be allowed to test the market, it won't be as high as he thinks but Redskins will match and it'll be all good, if he hasn't already agreed to a team friendly deal. But I said I wouldn't post on this anymore, but thanks for the satisfying debate rather than complaint.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1188966]LOL So cutting guys like Dez Bryant wouldn't free up cap?? Not bringing back Lawrence isn't possible? You always have to worry about what others post lol dude go chill out somewhere, once again it would be different if I just made that up BUT ONCE AGAIN it came from credible sources.

Kirk Cousins continues to become a brighter and shinier object, doesn’t, at some point, Jerry Jones stir and say, ‘Dak Prescott… Kirk Cousins? Dak Prescott… Kirk Cousins?’

Also I am not a NFL WRITER and I don't pretend to be one on this site... If you come to me with a resume saying you write for a pro sports team then I'll say OK you know your shit, if not fuck off bro[/quote]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you're such a dipshit

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[QUOTE=Meks;1188976]Everyone's allowed to have their opinion, man... It's just getting far fetched and the risk of hurting the team is very high... hey, I would love to tag and trade, but instead of over hyping a very small percentage chance that happens... ... we're on to Alex Smith. Next question lol[/QUOTE]

I'm not trying to be a dick here. Im asking this sincerely, because I'd love to be also talking about Alex Smith, but there's literally another thread for that, so why no-one posting in it? Go talk there, if this conversation is over why is this thread still going? I don't know you all, I just don't post on threads I don't find interesting anymore.

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[quote=WillH;1188981]I'm not trying to be a dick here. Im asking this sincerely, because I'd love to be also talking about Alex Smith, but there's literally another thread for that, so why no-one posting in it? Go talk there, if this conversation is over why is this thread still going? I don't know you all, I just don't post on threads I don't find interesting anymore.

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Honestly, I had not been checking this thread (and the 4 previous ones) for a pretty long time...
But it's pretty much the only one active these days... Plus the Kirk drama is spreading on other threads.

1) I was fed up with this drama even before the season ended, but I was keeping it to myself... "He's our QB, it's legit we are talking about him and what's gonna happen"...
All I had to do was avoid the Kirk's thread, and go on other threads.

2) After the season ended, other threads pretty much died. "Hey, it's legit, QB is a huge question mark for us"...

3) After the Alex Smith trade I thought "Great, we can now move on, go forward, talk about building the team" ... but the tag and trade scenarios came up ... "hey it's legit, the FO F'd up this situation, we want to get something back from him".

...

4) But when it's clear Kirk won't cooperate (and we need him to cooperate for this not to backfire in our face Dracarys style), and "journalists" are just digging for things to write about when nothing is happening, one is allowed to hope, coming to this board, that people are going to spend at least the same amount of time and energy talking about the future of this team that they do commenting and elaborating stories about our former QB...

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[quote=Schneed10;1188980]HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you're such a dipshit[/quote]

So you are telling me that a guy like Mike Florio who has been in the business for years and is a credible source for the NFL can say "Dallas could make a run" but if I say it "I'm a dipshit" So I just need to post stuff YOU want to read not stuff YOU think is pointless. Got it, I thought this site was for talking NFL rumors.... Guess it has to be boring same shit to talk about everyday.

The skins were 7-9 last yr, Eagles won the SB.... Cool stuff to talk about let me tell ya

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[url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22347565/kirk-cousins-2018-nfl-free-agency-sweepstakes-seven-offers-sign-quarterback-picking-best]Kirk Cousins 2018 NFL free agency sweepstakes - Seven offers to sign quarterback, picking best[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1188989]So you are telling me that a guy like Mike Florio who has been in the business for years and is a credible source for the NFL can say "Dallas could make a run" but if I say it "I'm a dipshit" So I just need to post stuff YOU want to read not stuff YOU think is pointless. Got it, I thought this site was for talking NFL rumors.... Guess it has to be boring same shit to talk about everyday.

The skins were 7-9 last yr, Eagles won the SB.... Cool stuff to talk about let me tell ya[/quote]

To be fair, Mike Florio is a dipshit

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1188993]To be fair, Mike Florio is a dipshit[/QUOTE]


You’re being too nice

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[QUOTE=MTK;1188992][url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22347565/kirk-cousins-2018-nfl-free-agency-sweepstakes-seven-offers-sign-quarterback-picking-best]Kirk Cousins 2018 NFL free agency sweepstakes - Seven offers to sign quarterback, picking best[/url][/QUOTE]Let an immediate Superbowl contender sign him then start cutting players next year.

Building a team for one year runs at the expense of long term success is never good.

The Eagles will be gutted over the next few years because of cap space.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1188993]To be fair, Mike Florio is a dipshit[/QUOTE]Yep and he tries to create drama especially it seems with skins.

Funny how if Snyder changed the name he would get positive press from some writers for him and the Skins. But until then ......

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So going all in and winning a SB isn’t worth it?

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I hate the dude too but u cant take away his credibility , the dude has his insights. Do I think Dallas actually has a chance to get KIRK? NO but to say its stupid or just making shit up is false, if the Cards and Broncos have the cap space then Dallas will too, they are literally a few million apart. If they cut Dez and don't keep Lawrence they could damn near do it, with other guys restructuring. So it is POSSIBLE but not PROBABLE.

But I'll stop posting things without a Page of analysis on why every little move may work or may not work.... Since we all have hours to do so during the day and we are all paid to write it up....

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1188998]I hate the dude too but u cant take away his credibility , the dude has his insights. Do I think Dallas actually has a chance to get KIRK? NO but to say its stupid or just making shit up is false, if the Cards and Broncos have the cap space then Dallas will too, they are literally a few million apart. If they cut Dez and don't keep Lawrence they could damn near do it, with other guys restructuring. So it is POSSIBLE but not PROBABLE.

But I'll stop posting things without a Page of analysis on why every little move may work or may not work.... Since we all have hours to do so during the day and we are all paid to write it up....[/quote]

Nah, it's offseason, post all you want, It's fun to schneed get all worked up over it.

As for Florio, I think he is useless- he is the definition of clickbait stuff, especially around anything remotely Redskins.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1188997]So going all in and winning a SB isn’t worth it?[/QUOTE]Not for one season if you are going to position yourself for missing playoffs in the future.

If you are going in for one year in a high player rental but will be ok next year then go for it.

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[quote=Dan73;1189000]Not for one season if you are going to position yourself for missing playoffs in the future.

If you are going in for one year in a high player rental but will be ok next year then go for it.

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I disagree, give me my precious ring.

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Anyone who wouldn’t trade a ring for a decade of mediocrity is insane.

There are teams out there with no rings, like the Eagles just were. F long term success, one ring is history in the books.

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[quote=MTK;1189009]Anyone who wouldn’t trade a ring for a decade of mediocrity is insane.

There are teams out there with no rings, like the Eagles just were. F long term success, one ring is history in the books.[/quote]

give me a ring next yr and i'm good for 20 more years

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1189011]give me a ring next yr and i'm good for 20 more years[/quote]

We don't HAVE to go 20 years between rings, 4 or 5 seems ok too.:food-smil

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Ask Fouts or Marino if they would rather have a ring?

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[quote=Giantone;1189015]Ask Fouts or Marino if they would rather have a ring?[/quote]

IMO Dan would have been the GOAT if he had a couple rings, that dude was throwing for 300 yards a game when it was a run first league and he never had a good RB

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1189016]IMO Dan would have been the GOAT if he had a couple rings, that dude was throwing for 300 yards a game when it was a run first league and he never had a good RB[/quote]

Is Marino still selling Isotoners?

[IMG]http://www.baconsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/danmarinoisotoner.jpg[/IMG]

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Rings or no rings Marino still stands as one of the best.

He may be the best pure passer the league has seen. Rocket arm, super quick release, and fearless.

Imagine the numbers he would rack up today?

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[QUOTE=MTK;1189009]Anyone who wouldn’t trade a ring for a decade of mediocrity is insane.

There are teams out there with no rings, like the Eagles just were. F long term success, one ring is history in the books.[/QUOTE]And there are teams that are always there and they get the chance to win every year and do sometimes.

I remember when everyone got upset with Snyder for trying to sign guys to win every year.

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If Snyder had pulled it off he’d be a hero. He clearly went about it the wrong way, the Eagles got it right.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1189016]IMO Dan would have been the GOAT if he had a couple rings, that dude was throwing for 300 yards a game when it was a run first league and he never had a good RB[/quote]

He threw for over 5,000 yards in 84. Think about that. That's like 6,000 yards today. Amazing.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1189024]If Snyder had pulled it off he’d be a hero. He clearly went about it the wrong way, the Eagles got it right.[/QUOTE]For about a month.

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[QUOTE=Dan73;1189026]For about a month.

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You don’t like winning huh

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Ideally you have a team that gives you a winning season consistently with deep playoff runs as a realistic goal. Winning the SB for teams not named Patriots is a special moment that is cherished. Marty for example was a great coach, but like Dan Marino, he will never be the greatest, because he couldn't get that ring.

I am good with the owner going for that last piece to get you over the top, but you also don't want to go years on end constantly chasing fools gold, and ending up with years of disappointment like the Skins have had for nearly 20 years.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1189027]You don’t like winning huh[/QUOTE]I like consistent winning. I don't know if you have been over at emoskins lately but you have regards there that hate Snyder so much they would rather he and Allen never get a Superbowl.

I like watching the Skins build. I enjoy watching players who want to win more than they want to get paid.

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wtf is emoskins?