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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1358085]Latest from Keim (podcast just cam out) [url]https://cms.megaphone.fm/channel/AMPM7263617903?selected=AMPM8446376738[/url][/quote]

great listen

i think ben got cold feet and so did keim and his guest speaker

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Gimme Mike Macdonald. I was all hell bent on an offensive mind, but Lord knows our defense could use a lot of help too. Id consider Macdonald a major [emoji736]

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[quote=MTK;1358065]He didn’t quite go through the process though, the team found out on the plane to Detroit. All he had done at this point was a video introductory type of interview.

[B]Weird to bail when a team is flying out to see you.[/B][/quote]

What are we paying Rick Spielman for? He can't even get a heads up from his brother?

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1358085]Latest from Keim (podcast just cam out) [url]https://cms.megaphone.fm/channel/AMPM7263617903?selected=AMPM8446376738[/url][/quote]

i encourage everyone to listen to this , i think ben is an x and o guy not a alpha male ; he likes having campbell and aaron glen around to puff their chest and lead men

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[quote=MTK;1358065]He didn’t quite go through the process though, the team found out on the plane to Detroit. All he had done at this point was a video introductory type of interview.

Weird to bail when a team is flying out to see you.[/quote]

dude that was so unprofessional; its so obvious this guy has no balls

he is this years flavor, if the lions stumble next year he will just be another

one fucking playoff game has tarnished dann quinn

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Yeah that’s bush league to do that after the organization is flying out to see you. Dude is weak sauce so glad he’s not the HC.

It’ll probably be Dan Quinn and if so I’m all in. Hell atleast we know they’ll play good defense


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Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. 🎶
Quinn is a loser. Dude just got smoked, what a clown. Almost as bad as the nuclear meltdown the size of 3 mile island in the SuperBowl that last time he was head coach.
I got my hopes up after the Peters hire we may attract top talent here. It appears, we are still a destination for losers. Can’t wait to see who his OC will be.
Bungle the draft and keep the name.
The whole thing has a Snyder stink about it.

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I think it is funny how people keep bringing up the SB with Dan Quinn, yet Kyle Shanahan was part of that SB collapse (and criticized for it), yet he was hired as 49ers HC that offseason.

Sean McVeigh was hired as the Rams HC the season after Washington's offense was at the bottom of the league.

Also, go look at Pete Carroll's and Bill Belichick's first stint as head coaches in the league.

Some of y'all need to chill the eff out.

NOTE: Mike MacDonald is my top choice, but I'll be fine with anyone Peters is going to hire.

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I think it's the whole cowboy thing with Dan .. also his name is "Dan"😳 and as far as his past accomplishments Just to get to Super Bowl is a huge and I won't hold THAT against Him ( even though Ron got there also) also both Dan and Ron have a lot in common both DC and HC both Took team to SB .. both been fired , I don't know what to think anymore and if that is who they hire then it is what it is

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Can we hire someone today please? I'm ready for this to be over. Give me Macdonald or Glenn, and let's call it a day.

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[url]https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/john-keim-report/id1455645619?i=1000643594777[/url]

I can’t stress listening to this , they even touch on Quinn

You don’t want Ben Johnson ; he didn’t think he could be a HC and he is not a alpha leader of men guy , he is an analyst at best

These coordinators every year there is the HOT guy , not worth dropping 15 million a year on hype

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For the last 2 seasons Dan Quinn has been highly touted as a Defensive genius. What he did in Dallas was legit.

If he’s the new HC I’m fine with that. Also he took the Atlanta falcons to the SB and should have won the game so clearly he’s not as bad as some think


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1358104]For the last 2 seasons Dan Quinn has been highly touted as a Defensive genius. What he did in Dallas was legit.

If he’s the new HC I’m fine with that. Also he took the Atlanta falcons to the SB and should have won the game so clearly he’s not as bad as some think


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It also guts the cowboys of a great coordinator

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What I really want is the next Ben Johnson at OC

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[quote=mredskins;1358106]What I really want is the next Ben Johnson at OC[/quote]

Who’s out there that’s even sniffing being a great OC?
I can’t think of any. Most likely will be a retread proven loser Like Quinn.
Say welcome back Scott Turner, or hello Brian Schottenheimer.
If we’re lucky Peters will cajole Brian Griese away from 49ers and he actually turns into a great OC.
I don’t see it though. Looking more like a typical Commanders patch job of people nobody wants anymore. This includes Quinn. Word on the street is Seattle is throwing the book at McDonald to land him today.

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[quote=Redskin Jim;1358107]Who’s out there that’s even sniffing being a great OC?
I can’t think of any. Most likely will be a retread proven loser Like Quinn.
Say welcome back Scott Turner, or hello Brian Schottenheimer.
If we’re lucky Peters will cajole Brian Griese away from 49ers and he actually turns into a great OC.
I don’t see it though. Looking more like a typical Commanders patch job of people nobody wants anymore. This includes Quinn. Word on the street is Seattle is throwing the book at McDonald to land him today.[/quote]

you are just reaching at straws and going off what the media feeds you

we all actually don't know these guys

i do know from multiple reports in a room with dan campbell and aaron glen, ben johnson was a beta

everyone is spun up over Ben about his hype he has not done jack shit as a HC

the problem with football is folks like to look at things in bubbles whether its a free agent a draft pick a coach candidate etc.....but football is such a synergy of moving parts. What if Ben Johnson had the parts we had on offense this year and RR was his head coach? Do you think he would be such a hot prospect

the one mystery that bothers me is why not knock on Mike V's door; i take that alpha guy over any to scared to go to a job interview ben

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[quote=Redskin Jim;1358107][B][I]Who’s out there that’s even sniffing being a great OC?[/I][/B]
I can’t think of any. Most likely will be a retread proven loser Like Quinn.
Say welcome back Scott Turner, or hello Brian Schottenheimer.
If we’re lucky Peters will cajole Brian Griese away from 49ers and he actually turns into a great OC.
I don’t see it though. Looking more like a typical Commanders patch job of people nobody wants anymore. This includes Quinn. Word on the street is Seattle is throwing the book at McDonald to land him today.[/quote]

no idea that is why you have a guy named Adam Peters in the front office; he is the single most important hire this offseason

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1358104]For the last 2 seasons Dan Quinn has been highly touted as a Defensive genius. What he did in Dallas was legit.

If he’s the new HC I’m fine with that. Also he took the Atlanta falcons to the SB and should have won the game so clearly he’s not as bad as some think


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He is good if he has elite talent and is playing with a lead but look at the D in the Packers game they couldn't stop a tissue running up the middle if they tried. The D he created in Atlanta very meh performances.

Maybe he is the next Pete Carroll or BB. My guess he is more like Mike McCarthy which is better than what we have had. Give him a 4 yr contract after three 9-7 seasons and losses in the wild card round bounce him for Slowik in 3 yrs after he wins a SB with CJ

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Here's a thought, why don't we look at the decisions we made that put the 2013 staff in place? What did we see in those young coaches that brought them here, because those guys have all gone on to success. That process is what we want to recapture and hopefully that's how Peters is approaching this. Once he finds his next HC, work with that guy to build a similar staff of potential HC's.

And on Johnson, has anyone considered that he might have told the teams at interview that he was considering staying with the Lions? That they knew in pursuing him that he may not want to leave (rather than not want to come). To me, all the negative press around his decision seems to be the media stirring up and creating column inches rather than driven by him or the teams chasing him. And now Slowik's said the same, is he going to get a torrent of abuse for not making himself available? I like the fact the team is saying schtum on the process, as any coach coming here will want to know they have his back. I actually doubt Johnson got scared off, he simply decided that his best opportunity in the next few years is with the Lions, and not that he didn't like our situation.

For me, now it's McDonalds job to lose/reject. As long as he recruits an OC of the calibre mentioned above, I'll be more than happy if he's the next HC.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1358111]Here's a thought, why don't we look at the decisions we made that put the 2013 staff in place? What did we see in those young coaches that brought them here, because those guys have all gone on to success. That process is what we want to recapture and hopefully that's how Peters is approaching this. Once he finds his next HC, work with that guy to build a similar staff of potential HC's.

And on Johnson, has anyone considered that he might have told the teams at interview that he was considering staying with the Lions? That they knew in pursuing him that he may not want to leave (rather than not want to come). To me, all the negative press around his decision seems to be the media stirring up and creating column inches rather than driven by him or the teams chasing him. And now Slowik's said the same, is he going to get a torrent of abuse for not making himself available? I like the fact the team is saying schtum on the process, as any coach coming here will want to know they have his back. I actually doubt Johnson got scared off, he simply decided that his best opportunity in the next few years is with the Lions, and not that he didn't like our situation.

For me, now it's McDonalds job to lose/reject. As long as he recruits an OC of the calibre mentioned above, I'll be more than happy if he's the next HC.[/quote]

his name is Mike Shanahan and he hired his son and his son hired his buddies

we could bring mike back

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BJ was asking for 15 million a year. That absolutely has everything in to do with why he is still in Detroit. He is betting on himself, at age 37, that he can duplicate the results from this year, perhaps surpass them, and that someone is going to pay him what he wants after the next cycle.

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[quote=punch it in;1358113]BJ was asking for 15 million a year. That absolutely has everything in to do with why he is still in Detroit. He is betting on himself, at age 37, that he can duplicate the results from this year, perhaps surpass them, and that someone is going to pay him what he wants after the next cycle.[/quote]

Can he at least pay us back half the jet-fuel money? Go Packers, Bears, and Vikings (as long as Kirk isn't there)!!

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Sounds like at least one of the Marty's is sticking around for a while:
[url]https://twitter.com/john_keim?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1752670156520603785%7Ctwgr%5E8fb61e3e245d5a2d94b22876c0739bbc96f1227e%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hogshaven.com%2F2024%2F1%2F31%2F24056735%2Fmartin-mayhew-heads-to-the-senior-bowl-expected-to-remain-in-gm-adam-peters-front-office[/url]

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1358116]Sounds like at least one of the Marty's is sticking around for a while:
[url]https://twitter.com/john_keim?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1752670156520603785%7Ctwgr%5E8fb61e3e245d5a2d94b22876c0739bbc96f1227e%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hogshaven.com%2F2024%2F1%2F31%2F24056735%2Fmartin-mayhew-heads-to-the-senior-bowl-expected-to-remain-in-gm-adam-peters-front-office[/url][/quote]

People are going to freak out over Mayhew staying. Oh boy!

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1358111]Here's a thought, why don't we look at the decisions we made that put the 2013 staff in place? What did we see in those young coaches that brought them here, because those guys have all gone on to success. That process is what we want to recapture and hopefully that's how Peters is approaching this. Once he finds his next HC, work with that guy to build a similar staff of potential HC's.

And on Johnson, has anyone considered that he might have told the teams at interview that he was considering staying with the Lions? That they knew in pursuing him that he may not want to leave (rather than not want to come). To me, all the negative press around his decision seems to be the media stirring up and creating column inches rather than driven by him or the teams chasing him. And now Slowik's said the same, is he going to get a torrent of abuse for not making himself available? I like the fact the team is saying schtum on the process, as any coach coming here will want to know they have his back. I actually doubt Johnson got scared off, he simply decided that his best opportunity in the next few years is with the Lions, and not that he didn't like our situation.

For me, now it's McDonalds job to lose/reject. As long as he recruits an OC of the calibre mentioned above, I'll be more than happy if he's the next HC.[/quote]

Nah, I think they interviewed Johnson and Slowik because they had to. They had proven themselves worthy, with what they have accomplished as coordinators. This ownership group was obligated to set up interviews to see if they were a good fit for this organization moving forward. The interviews probably didn't go as they expected and both parties sensed that. Schefter even was onto this a couple days ago - that just because the media was saying Johnson was a lock, that he probably wasn't even the favorite.... so while I agree that Johnson didn't get "scared off", I don't buy that he simply decided his best opportunity is with the Lions. He just wasn't the best candidate, he knew that, and he made the first move to take himself out of the running. My guess is Slowik did the same.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1358117]People are going to freak out over Mayhew staying. Oh boy![/quote]

As fans we see the taint of Ron and Dan all over him but he seems well respected in the NFL world and that cannot be underestimated.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1358119]As fans we see the taint of Ron and Dan all over him but he seems well respected in the NFL world and that cannot be underestimated.[/quote]

And he worked with Peters in SF

Totally fine with Mayhew staying on

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I have no problem with Mayhew although if I'm honest I have no idea what he actually does.

Dan Quinn as HC on the other hand would destroy the little bit of hope I have that we are on the right track. He had his chance in Atlanta and blew it.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1358117]People are going to freak out over Mayhew staying. Oh boy![/quote]

Ron overruled him on some draft picks and had a specific type , you know the one, so it is difficult to know how much impact Mayhew had on tbe failures of the last regime. This close to the draft new GMs almost never clean house in the scouting department, wait until May for that. With no coaches in sight they had to send someone to Mobile.

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I like the take: [url]https://commanderswire.usatoday.com/2024/01/31/washington-commanders-new-gm-adam-peters-ben-johnson-coaching-search-mike-macdonald/[/url]

But still prom season is coming to a close and I don't want to be stuck with Weird Ashley

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[quote=Redskin Jim;1358107]Who’s out there that’s even sniffing being a great OC?
I can’t think of any. Most likely will be a retread proven loser Like Quinn.
Say welcome back Scott Turner, or hello Brian Schottenheimer.
If we’re lucky Peters will cajole Brian Griese away from 49ers and he actually turns into a great OC.
I don’t see it though. Looking more like a typical Commanders patch job of people nobody wants anymore. This includes Quinn. Word on the street is Seattle is throwing the book at McDonald to land him today.[/quote]

of of the candidates out there, Dan Quinn probably has the biggest list of candidates he knows for coordinators and position coaches. And that is by a lot due to his experience in the league.

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1358124]of of the candidates out there, Dan Quinn probably has the biggest list of candidates he knows for coordinators and position coaches. And that is by a lot due to his experience in the league.[/quote]

yup!

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1358118]Nah, I think they interviewed Johnson and Slowik because they had to. They had proven themselves worthy, with what they have accomplished as coordinators. This ownership group was obligated to set up interviews to see if they were a good fit for this organization moving forward. The interviews probably didn't go as they expected and both parties sensed that. Schefter even was onto this a couple days ago - that just because the media was saying Johnson was a lock, that he probably wasn't even the favorite.... so while I agree that Johnson didn't get "scared off", I don't buy that he simply decided his best opportunity is with the Lions. He just wasn't the best candidate, he knew that, and he made the first move to take himself out of the running. My guess is Slowik did the same.[/QUOTE]


I respectfully disagree. If BJ had asked for a reasonable paycheck he would be our guy. I could be wrong, because who the hell am I, but I would be willing to bet that Peters absolutely wanted him to be the guy.

Anyway, at this point I am praying for Mac.

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This is no way to live. Hire someone! I need to yell at the clouds.

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I am not buying the asking salary was the issue. If it was they wouldn't have been flying out to interview him a second time. I genuinely think this was a shock to the FO. It is possible it was smoke and mirrors to distract Seattle from Glenn or BJ said I am not going to negotiate but I am guessing there is a different reason he is staying put.

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It's a race between us and Seattle to get Macdonald (just my opinion only). I already hate the Seahawks, that would take it to another level.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1358128]I am not buying the asking salary was the issue. If it was they wouldn't have been flying out to interview him a second time. I genuinely think this was a shock to the FO. It is possible it was smoke and mirrors to distract Seattle from Glenn or BJ said I am not going to negotiate but I am guessing there is a different reason he is staying put.[/quote]

He's an analyst... a great OC. Not a leader of men. Period.

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[quote=punch it in;1358113]BJ was asking for 15 million a year. That absolutely has everything in to do with why he is still in Detroit. He is betting on himself, at age 37, that he can duplicate the results from this year, perhaps surpass them, and that someone is going to pay him what he wants after the next cycle.[/quote]

He's a pussy; that's why he dropped out. I'm glad he's out now that I know he's afraid to be a HC.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1358129]It's a race between us and Seattle to get Macdonald (just my opinion only). I already hate the Seahawks, that would take it to another level.[/quote]

not looking good . . . McDonald is flying to Seattle for a meeting today after meeting with him for the first time yesterday.

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Is it possible that there may be a reset on the Commanders' HC search?