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ArtMonkDrillz 12-04-2006 03:25 PM

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[QUOTE=Hog1;255701]It's very technical[/QUOTE]
Ha, my problem was that I was voting based on the way the question was originally worded, but it must have changed right before I clicked it. Damn hanging chads.

MTK 12-04-2006 03:28 PM

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I reset the poll to 0 so there's no way there's multiple people under the no category that shouldn't be, there's only 2 no votes up there right now.

AMD I'll change yours, now 3 no votes.

12thMan 12-04-2006 03:30 PM

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I'm really on the fence here, but I did vote no.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 12-04-2006 03:34 PM

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I wholeheartedly support wholesale changes in the roster and coaching staff. We, as an organization, have been far too patient and conservative in our offseason strategies. I think it's about time that we tried something new, like kick out the coaching staff and find some real nice free agents this offseason. Haven't we learned that consistency has killed this franchise?

I say we sign a HoF head coach, a offensive guru who's consistently produced top-flight offenses, and a defensive coach who's coached top 10 defenses.

As for the players, we need a big-money defensive end, a big money strong safety to complement Sean Taylor, and another receiving threat who can complement Santana Moss.

gibbs4life 12-04-2006 03:36 PM

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[quote=12thMan;254846]The critism that Gibbs draws is totally warranted. Let's get a couple of things straight: The Redskins had a good tradition before Gibbs came here in the 80s. George Allen took the team to the Super Bowl if anyone cares to remember. I think what Gibbs did during his tenure was cement the franchise among the greatest in football.

Secondly, there seems to be an attitude that because Joe Gibbs has three Super Bowl rings, he's beyond reproach some how. I just don't get it. In three years since his arrival, the offense has been sporadic and inconsistent.

Al Saunders isn't the blame, Joe Gibbs is to blame. Daniel Snyder isn't to blame, Joe Gibbs is to blame. Gregg Williams isn't to blame, Joe Gibbs is to blame. Even when Williams fielded a top defense the past two years, we failed to give him an offense that could remotely keep pace and challenge to be a contender.

You guys can say what you will about Gibbs, but the bottom line...THE BOTTOM line is he hasn't done a good job since he has returned to Washington.[/quote]

then i guess he can always go back to his raceshop in charlotte then.
thats just MHO thats all.

oh yeah i voted no.

ArtMonkDrillz 12-04-2006 03:40 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;255709]I reset the poll to 0 so there's no way there's multiple people under the no category that shouldn't be, there's only 2 no votes up there right now.

AMD I'll change yours, now 3 no votes.[/QUOTE]

Thanks.

I'm not trying to be an ass about this. I feel like 12th in that I am on the fence but I lean more towards the "no faith" side of the arguement.
I love Gibbs and I'll always be grateful for what he was able to do for this franchise, but I'm just so sick of losing. Last season was great fun, but I really feel like we were very lucky to have had the success that we did and I think this year just proves it.

We're in such a sticky situation right now and it really sucks. We all want consistancy for the future, but how long to we wait around? What happens if we finish 9-7 or worse next season, all while looking similiar to this season (in terms of penalties, lack of halftime adjustments, giving up big plays etc.), do we give Gibbs another chance in '08?
At the same time, if it's true that Saunders system takes at least a season to master next year could be great. We'll probably come in under ther radar again, Portis will be healthy, and hopefully the defense will get their heads out of their collectives asses and start playing like they used to.

So I guess that even though I don't have a ton of faith that next season will be much better I'd rather see the staff stay the way it is and pray that I'm wrong about them. Like everyone else here, I just want to see the Skins win.

12thMan 12-04-2006 03:40 PM

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[quote=gibbs4life;255723]then i guess he can always go back to his raceshop in charlotte then.
thats just MHO thats all.

oh yeah i voted no.[/quote]

Well for now, I'm sure the Skins are his focus.

hesscl34 12-04-2006 03:43 PM

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[quote=12thMan;255730]Well for now, I'm sure the Skins are his focus.[/quote]

Gibbs won't go down losing. He will find a way. Last year we all thought the man was God when we won 6 straight, now you all are screaming for his head. He will find a way to make this team win. Then he'll be God again.....

GTripp0012 12-04-2006 03:45 PM

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;255667]When's the last time the Cardinals were one game away from the NFC Championship? We were there just last year.
[/quote]I agree with you on your Gibbs points and I think the guy who called us the Arizona Cards of the East is overexaggerating. But I just want to point out to be fair that 25% of NFL teams get within a game of the Conference Championship every year. 25% of the NFC gets within a game of the NFC championship every year.

So while I think Gibbs should be commened for the job he did with the offense and turning the season around last year, but getting within one game of the conference championship isnt THAT great of an accomplishment.

GhettoDogAllStars 12-04-2006 03:45 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;255709]I reset the poll to 0 so there's no way there's multiple people under the no category that shouldn't be, there's only 2 no votes up there right now.

AMD I'll change yours, now 3 no votes.[/QUOTE]

There is a way -- but I don't know it. I voted on the original wording, and all was well. Then, I saw that you changed it, and I was going to vote again -- on the home page it showed the Yes/No radio buttons. But, I clicked to read the new posts and when I started reading the thread, I noticed that I was registered for a "no" vote.

Maybe I did something wrong, maybe my browser is quirky, maybe it was the matrix. I don't care anyways -- I like to look at the results and see that the overwhelming majority voted yes, even though the no's had some help. :)

12thMan 12-04-2006 03:54 PM

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[quote=hesscl34;255731]Gibbs won't go down losing. He will find a way. Last year we all thought the man was God when we won 6 straight, now you all are screaming for his head. He will find a way to make this team win. Then he'll be God again.....[/quote]

Hess, I'm not screaming for Gibbs' head...and I'm not sure anyone else here is either, Paul included. I think there is a level of frustration with the current situation.

We've clearly taken steps back this year. Whoever or whatever the reason, we've taken some steps back this year.

I'm not sure that Gibbs can turn this around the way he wants with two years remaining. I'm just not that confident about it. And because I'm not that confident about it doesn't mean I'm flip-flopping or not loyal or all these other accusations that tend to fly around when someone mentions Gibbs in a negative light.

If he finds a way, I'm in his corner 100%. I'll be in his corner 100% next year when the season starts.

hesscl34 12-04-2006 03:55 PM

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If anyone can do it, Gibbs can. I have faith. HAIL! :)

GhettoDogAllStars 12-04-2006 03:59 PM

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[QUOTE=hesscl34;255742]If anyone can do it, Gibbs can.[/QUOTE]

Exactly.

ArtMonkDrillz 12-04-2006 04:00 PM

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[QUOTE=hesscl34;255742]If anyone can do it, Gibbs can. I have faith. HAIL! :)[/QUOTE]
I'm going to be an a$$hole for a second: didn't you also have faith that we'd make the playoffs [I]this[/I] season?

hesscl34 12-04-2006 04:06 PM

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;255749]I'm going to be an a$$hole for a second: didn't you also have faith that we'd make the playoffs [I]this[/I] season?[/quote]

Last year I was screaming that I knew we would make the playoffs and I was brilliant. Like I'm the only one that thought the same this year?? Please. We all were screaming Superbowl. And I am VERY dissapointed. But that doesn't mean I don't think we can still win, becuase we can. Growing pains this year.... :(


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