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Giantone 02-21-2014 04:15 AM

Re: Pro-gun article
 
[quote=RedskinRat;1060020]And yet.......



Your irrationality is showing, again.[/quote]


How is that ,these guys had not had guns people would still be alive today. You must be one of them ,your courage is in the clip .

HailGreen28 02-21-2014 06:48 AM

Re: Pro-gun article
 
[quote=Giantone;1060013]wow, nice retort .[/quote]Thanks. And thanks for proving my point since the original post. Insults, fear, and already refuted fallacies are all you have left. "Your courage is in the clip", lol. Yet you're wanting a constitutional right taken away for your fear.

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over the mountain 02-21-2014 01:04 PM

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[quote=Monkeydad;1059992]The far majority of those with carry permits are responsible, law-abiding citizens who do not want to have to ever use their firearm.

If someone does that, they're likely criminals (or capable of being) and damaged people in other ways too.

You can't deny 99.9% of responsible people who follow the law their rights because of the slim chance you'll run into someone who doesn't respect the law or other humans.

I can tell you, most who are "packing" are moral, law-abiding and properly trained. The few loose cannons and idiots give the rest of us a bad name. Of course, you're in Baltimore, a gathering spot for those types so you are justified in being afraid of something happening.

That's why I speak to no one in that city unless I'm ordering food at the Harbor. :D[/quote]

lol you talk about respecting people .. then in the same breath use a broad brush to paint baltimore as "those types".

you want me to not associate all responsible gun owners with the nut jobs just because of a few headlines ....... but have no problem labeling all of baltimore as a gathering spot for "those types" bc of a few headlines....

i am surprised that white people living 4 hours from any major city feel the need to carry a gun bc of crime in that far off city.

i dont know why im even really typing in this thread. idc about guns.

i dont have a prob w people owning guns. ak 47s seems a little odd and excessive for someone to want to own but im cool with it.

i am surprised this country doesnt require gun and ammo registration. that doesnt seem unreasonable to me.

if you want people to look past the .1% of crazy gun owners, maybe you should look past the .1% of crazy city folk? idk, live and let live.

over the mountain 02-21-2014 01:08 PM

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[quote=Giantone;1060017] Because these men, and so many others, are pussies who would never push things to a confrontation without having the gun readily available.[/quote]

when did the men of this country become so afraid to take a punch?

Monkeydad 02-21-2014 01:22 PM

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We do have to register our guns, at least in PA.

Some states like NY require your carry permit to list EVERY gun you own. I recently saw a retired cop's permit from NY and it took the front and back of one card and a second card front to list his collection. :D Every time he buys another, he has to pay the State of NY another fee for an updated card.

The bureaucracy of ammo registration would be impossible. President Obama has insinuated about it but his intentions would be to prevent anyone from being able to get any ammo, not to track it or for safety reasons. So instead, he's just having DHS buy billions of rounds and literally dry up the supply in the popular calibers. It's very difficult to find some types and when you do, the price has gone sky high. It's a very underhanded way of implementing gun control without having to write or follow laws.


Also, by "those types"...you can't deny Baltimore or any major city has a higher criminal element. The chances of getting mugged or carjacked there is much greater than if you drive to a rural town or even smaller city like Hagerstown or Frederick. You can't really argue that, can you? You do have to be aware of your surroundings a bit more in a city. That's all I was saying. I live in the country and work in the city so I see both words daily.

Monkeydad 02-21-2014 01:29 PM

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[quote=over the mountain;1060118]when did the men of this country become so afraid to take a punch?[/quote]


Since feminism rose up in the 1960s and neutered the male gender.

This country's men (mostly the liberal ones like our friend from NJ here) have become so feminized. They're afraid to step up and be a man. They'd rather watch a woman get mugged than protect her. In a way, it's what the feminists wanted, to be treated equally and thought of as "strong like men" but truth is, the male sex is the stronger one and should be more protective. The females are the nurturing ones. It's not discrimination, it's just nature. We all have our roles and none are more important than any other. We're not equal and trying to equalize the genders only weakens both. Kids need mothers AND fathers...not a mother trying to be a man and a father who has had his manhood decimated.

Very sad.


Don't even get me started on how women want to be in combat roles but don't want their daughters registered under selective service when they turn 18. They want all of the glory with none of the responsibility.

RedskinRat 02-21-2014 01:30 PM

[QUOTE=over the mountain;1060118]when did the men of this country become so afraid to take a punch?[/QUOTE]

You have to blame Matty, JR and their ilk. True story.

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Giantone 02-21-2014 05:11 PM

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[quote=over the mountain;1060118]when did the men of this country become so afraid to take a punch?[/quote]


Bingo , and if you don't want confrontation walk away ,change your seat at the movie , get in your car and drive away , CALL A POLICE OFFICER .

Giantone 02-21-2014 05:27 PM

Re: Pro-gun article
 
[quote=Monkeydad;1060120]Since feminism rose up in the 1960s and neutered the male gender.

This country's men (mostly the liberal ones like our friend from NJ here) have become so feminized. They're afraid to step up and be a man. They'd rather watch a woman get mugged than protect her. In a way, it's what the feminists wanted, to be treated equally and thought of as "strong like men" but truth is, the male sex is the stronger one and should be more protective. The females are the nurturing ones. It's not discrimination, it's just nature. We all have our roles and none are more important than any other. We're not equal and trying to equalize the genders only weakens both. Kids need mothers AND fathers...not a mother trying to be a man and a father who has had his manhood decimated.

[/quote]

LOL, wow ! In another thread you accuse me of spreading fear bur here you insinuate that unless I defend a women "WITH A GUN" I'm not a man .


MD, your babbling again.

Buffalo Bob 02-21-2014 05:32 PM

Re: Pro-gun article
 
[quote=Monkeydad;1059962]And...

[img]http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/3d/58/c6/3d58c6c97c8ab056ac0ca11fdb89b0d1.jpg[/img][/quote]

Dude, this one made me spit my ice tea all over my monitor and desk, thanks a lot!

RedskinRat 02-21-2014 05:42 PM

[QUOTE=Giantone;1060155]LOL, wow ! In another thread you accuse me of spreading fear bur here you insinuate that unless I defend a women "WITH A GUN" I'm not a man .


MD, your babbling again.[/QUOTE]

Please point out where MD said 'with a gun'?

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Giantone 02-21-2014 06:37 PM

Re: Pro-gun article
 
[quote=RedskinRat;1060158]Please point out where MD said 'with a gun'?

Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk[/quote]


Nice try .

RedskinRat 02-21-2014 08:15 PM

Re: Pro-gun article
 
[URL="http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/02/19/FBI-Report-Shows-Violent-Crime-Decreased-As-Gun-Purchases-Increased"]FBI Report Shows Violent Crime Decreased as Gun Sales Increased[/URL]

[I]Violent crime fell during the first six months of 2013--at the same time the number of gun purchases was expanding.

According to preliminary FBI stats, "All offenses in the category of violent crime" fell during the first six months of 2013, compared to the same time period in 2012.

UPI reports that this included "murder, non-negligent manslaughter, forcible rape, [and] aggravated assault and robbery." Specifically, "murders declined by 6.9 percent, forcible rapes declined 10.6 percent, aggravated assaults decreased 6.6 percent and robbery offenses were down by 1.8 percent."

On January 6, 2014, Breitbart News reported that background checks for gun purchases had skyrocketed in 2013, particularly in the early part of the year, which coincides with the period of time in which, according to FBI stats, crime fell.

Throughout 2013 as a whole, there were 21,093,273 background checks, compared to 19,592,303 in 2012.

[/I]Mmmmmmm, smug!

RedskinRat 02-21-2014 09:32 PM

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HailGreen28 02-22-2014 07:31 PM

Re: Pro-gun article
 
[quote=Giantone;1060040]How is that ,these guys had not had guns people would still be alive today. You must be one of them ,your courage is in the clip .[/quote]Yeesh. I guess in G1's fantasy land, stupid people having arguments never reach for knives, crowbars, etc......

MD was right about posts like that.
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