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[quote=SCRedskinsFan;1087079]Jim Lachey was not a Redskins pick. The Chargers drafted him, sent him to the Raiders, and Bobby Beathard traded QB Jay Schroeder to get him. At the time I thought that was a lousy deal, Schroeder was a good QB. Goes to show 2 things: I didn't know much about judging football talent then, and I haven't learned much since...[/quote]

He was not a good QB. Yeah he could throw it 80 yards, but he had 0 leadership skills and lacked accuracy. He flamed the rest of his career. But I think that he still holds the single season yardage record from 1986. That's sad. lol. But that was a great trade by BB.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1087144]He was not a good QB. Yeah he could throw it 80 yards, but he had 0 leadership skills and lacked accuracy. He flamed the rest of his career. But I think that he still holds the single season yardage record from 1986. That's sad. lol. But that was a great trade by BB.[/quote]

And Mike Shanahan was on the other end of that deal (well him and Al Davis)

The ironic thing is that just a year earlier the Raiders and Redskins had a deal done to send Doug Williams to the Raiders until Joe Gibbs nixed the deal.

And what some veterans on the team have told me, Schroeder may have been the most hated man in the locker room.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1087148]And Mike Shanahan was on the other end of that deal (well him and Al Davis)

The ironic thing is that just a year earlier the Raiders and Redskins had a deal done to send Doug Williams to the Raiders until Joe Gibbs nixed the deal.

[B]And what some veterans on the team have told me, Schroeder may have been the most hated man in the locker room.[/quote]
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Not surprising. I heard that his attitude was so bad during the weeks leading up to the Super Bowl, that Gibbs was thinking about deactivating him and bringing up Rypien.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1087164][/B]
Not surprising. I heard that his attitude was so bad during the weeks leading up to the Super Bowl, that Gibbs was thinking about deactivating him and bringing up Rypien.[/quote]

I think he had the misfortune of bad timing following SB champ Joe Theismann and then sharing a spot with beloved Doug Williams

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Jay it seemed at the time had a hard time fitting in......like someone we know at the helm of the bears. He reminds me of Cutler....

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Cutler has gotta be one of the most misunderstood players in the league.

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[quote=Mattyk;1087215]Cutler has gotta be one of the most misunderstood players in the league.[/quote]

Dude just wants to smoke a cig and be left alone.


[url=http://smokinjaycutler.tumblr.com/]Smokin' Jay Cutler[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk;1087215]Cutler has gotta be one of the most misunderstood players in the league.[/quote]

he makes a good scapegoat, thats for sure

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Back to RG3, I wish Shannahan would have never chosen RG3. RG3 deserves better. Redskins fans deserve Cousins. Keep wishing on a star and getting interceptions.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1087281]Back to RG3, I wish Shannahan would have never chosen RG3. RG3 deserves better. Redskins fans deserve Cousins. Keep wishing on a star and getting interceptions.[/quote]

I love RG3, but I'm beginning to hate the fact that he was drafted here. Not only because of the fans who are so ready to give up on him after everything he's done for them, but also because of the fact that his chances for NFL success were probably smaller here than any other team. He deserves better.

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[quote=SirLK26;1087299]I love RG3, but I'm beginning to hate the fact that he was drafted here. Not only because of the fans who are so ready to give up on him after everything he's done for them, but also because of the fact that his chances for NFL success were probably smaller here than any other team. He deserves better.[/quote]

I was listening to Mike and Mike this morning and they were criticizing the Raiders for a lack of vision and continuity, which reminded me of the Skins. Particularly with Griffin. After everything we give up to get him, two years in we hire a new head coach whose offense could not be less compatible with the skill set of the QB for whom we mortgaged so much. Ugh. So yeah, I feel bad for RG. That being said, I do believe he is mentally resilient and given the time to succeeed can still work out for us. I still believe.

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[quote=Coff;1087301]I was listening to Mike and Mike this morning and they were criticizing the Raiders for a lack of vision and continuity, which reminded me of the Skins. Particularly with Griffin. After everything we give up to get him, two years in we hire a new head coach whose offense could not be less compatible with the skill set of the QB for whom we mortgaged so much. Ugh. So yeah, I feel bad for RG. That being said, I do believe he is mentally resilient and given the time to succeeed can still work out for us. I still believe.[/quote]

Not sure we know that Gruden's offense will be incompatible with RG3.

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The fans can give up on RG3 all they want. Who cares. The team on the other hand isn't going to give up so quickly. He'll have the fans eating out of his hand again if he plays well and wins games.

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He's had three serious injuries to his legs and he's in his mid 20's. What's he going to be like when he's in his late 20's and early 30's when he's more susceptible to injuries? I think he's going to be the kind of player where it's always going to be something. On top of staying healthy, he's got to live up to the high expectations from the trade. Out of the three years he's been here, he's done it once. It's a what have you done for me lately league.

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[quote=SirLK26;1087299]I love RG3, but I'm beginning to hate the fact that he was drafted here. Not only because of the fans who are so ready to give up on him after everything he's done for them, but also because of the fact that [B]his chances for NFL success were probably smaller here than any other team. He deserves better.[/quote]
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How? They invested heavily in wr's to get better players around him. That's more than what Tom Brady has and he's walking into the HOF.