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[quote=Skip Bayless;1111352]After the injury, whats the possibilty of Hall playing some safety this season? Are Amerson, Breeland, and Culliver sufficient at CB or are we relying on Hall to return to have the cb unit competitive? Im a little concerned with his rehab ability at his age and have read that he may not even be ready for week 1. (Can't find the link on that.)[/quote]

Hall will be given a chance to compete for the outside cb spot across from cultivar. He will not be playing safety. Hall is a fighter and I expect him to give everything to get back on the field. He doesn't play the nickel corner well, but breeland does...

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[url=http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/12742740/greg-hardy-dallas-cowboys-suspended-10-games-nfl]Greg Hardy of Dallas Cowboys suspended 10 games by NFL[/url]

Hardy 10 games. pretty sure cowboys structured contract so that any suspended games pay does not count against cap.

hit to cowboys cap is minimal.
reinforcing the notion that you will sign any scumbag to win a game = check.

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10 games for the things he reportedly did is way too little. He's fortunate there wasn't video I guess

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[quote=SmootSmack;1111416]10 games for the things he reportedly did is way too little. He's fortunate there wasn't video I guess[/quote]

i briefly looked for photos of victim on the internet and did not see any. I know the NFL did get to see them.

What happened? it had to be something prolonged and serious.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1111416]10 games for the things he reportedly did is way too little. He's fortunate there wasn't video I guess[/quote]

+1

trifling b*tch took the money too because he wouldnt be playing this year if it went to court

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[quote=Chico23231;1111418]+1

trifling b*tch took the money too because he wouldnt be playing this year if it went to court[/quote]

i strongly condemn the use of the term "trifling bitch" to describe the actions of a victim of abuse. strongest terms possible chico. your better than that.

given the choice of money and putting this behind you vs going through court once again ... it is her choice to make.

she could have very well felt the legal system let her down by allowing for a trial de novo after he was convicted.

a second conviction does not magically undo what was done to her. a second conviction probably wouldnt bring her any closer to closure. it may actually prolong the time she has to actively deal with this vs time to start healing and moving on.

if you agree to any degree, can you edit that out or word it differently? if not no worries.

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[quote=over the mountain;1111420]i strongly condemn the use of the term "trifling bitch" to describe the actions of a victim of abuse. strongest terms possible chico. your better than that.

given the choice of money and putting this behind you vs going through court once again ... it is her choice to make.

she could have very well felt the legal system let her down by allowing for a trial de novo after he was convicted.[/quote]

having taken victim witness statements/deps for domestic abuse victims she does a diservice to those victims by letting this guy roam the streets for a payoff. I gotta lotta problems with that...just as i gotta lotta problems for a magazine those publishes false stories about gang rape for readership.

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[quote=Chico23231;1111421]having taken victim witness statements/deps for domestic abuse victims she does a diservice to those victims by letting this guy roam the streets for a payoff. I gotta lotta problems with that...just as i gotta lotta problems for a magazine those publishes false stories about gang rape for readership.[/quote]

i hear you, i really really do. ive heard more testimony of sex and DV abuse than I care to remember. i used to be the guy who would screen DV walk ins for ex parte POs. black eyes, bruises etc. friday was always busy.

your word choice, i cant change that. all i can do is ask. we should be focusing on the actions of the perpetrator, not the victim imo.

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[quote=over the mountain;1111417]i briefly looked for photos of victim on the internet and did not see any. I know the NFL did get to see them.

What happened? it had to be something prolonged and serious.[/quote]

Read this

[url=http://www.si.com/nfl/2014/09/12/greg-hardy-carolina-panthers-domestic-abuse]If there were a Greg Hardy video, would Greg Hardy be playing Sunday? - NFL - SI.com[/url]

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[quote=over the mountain;1111423]i hear you, i really really do. ive heard more testimony of sex and DV abuse than I care to remember. i used to be the guy who would screen DV walk ins for ex parte POs. black eyes, bruises etc. friday was always busy.

your word choice, i cant change that. all i can do is ask. we should be focusing on the actions of the perpetrator, not the victim imo.[/quote]

Poor choice of words by me

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Here's the latest rumor on a trade for Mariota:

"Mark Eckel of NJ.com passed along a rumor that a three-way trade could be in the works between the Eagles, Browns, and Titans, which would allow the Eagles to move up to the No. 2 overall pick to attain Oregon QB Marcus Mariota.

Eckel notes that rumor is swirling within NFL personnel meetings that the initial trade would send the Browns’ No. 19 overall pick to the Eagles in exchange for QB Sam Bradford. The Eagles would then send DT Fletcher Cox, LB Mychal Kendricks, and the No. 19 and No. 20 draft picks to the Titans for the No. 2 slot in the draft."

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Wow. How did bugs bunny say it? "What a maroon!"

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1111583]Here's the latest rumor on a trade for Mariota:

"Mark Eckel of NJ.com passed along a rumor that a three-way trade could be in the works between the Eagles, Browns, and Titans, which would allow the Eagles to move up to the No. 2 overall pick to attain Oregon QB Marcus Mariota.

Eckel notes that rumor is swirling within NFL personnel meetings that the initial trade would send the Browns’ No. 19 overall pick to the Eagles in exchange for QB Sam Bradford. The Eagles would then send DT Fletcher Cox, LB Mychal Kendricks, and the No. 19 and No. 20 draft picks to the Titans for the No. 2 slot in the draft."[/quote]

IMO if Cleveland do that there an idiot. You no the shegles want Mariota and you easily give them ammo to get him for nothing in return.

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1111583]Here's the latest rumor on a trade for Mariota:

"Mark Eckel of NJ.com passed along a rumor that a three-way trade could be in the works between the Eagles, Browns, and Titans, which would allow the Eagles to move up to the No. 2 overall pick to attain Oregon QB Marcus Mariota.

Eckel notes that rumor is swirling within NFL personnel meetings that the initial trade would send the Browns’ No. 19 overall pick to the Eagles in exchange for QB Sam Bradford. The Eagles would then send DT Fletcher Cox, LB Mychal Kendricks, and the No. 19 and No. 20 draft picks to the Titans for the No. 2 slot in the draft."[/QUOTE]

Oh please, oh please let this be true ...


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[quote=JoeRedskin;1111592]Oh please, oh please let this be true ...


Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk[/quote]Still less stupid than what we did.

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I read somewhere that an anonymous GM said that there are only 19 legitimate 1st Rounders in this draft. That causes me to think that there may be numerous teams looking to trade up into the middle of the 1st Round for a specific player. I'm thinking there may be more trades than usual in this draft and perhaps better returns than usual for teams that trade down.

I wonder who that GM thinks those 19 players are. I'd bet that we could probably name most of them. Off the top of my head: 2 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 3 OT, 1 C, 1 TE, 1 DT, 4 Edge Rushers, 2 CB = 19. I feel like there ought to be more than 19 legitimate 1st Rounders but I'm no draft expert.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1111608]I read somewhere that an anonymous GM said that there are only 19 legitimate 1st Rounders in this draft. That causes me to think that there may be numerous teams looking to trade up into the middle of the 1st Round for a specific player. I'm thinking there may be more trades than usual in this draft[/quote]A few points.

1st, clearly very few teams see the draft the same. This anon GM may/may not have a minority opinion as it regards the number of "1st round" prospects.

2nd, at the end of the day the draft remains a crap shoot the true answer is to have more rolls of the dice not less. Therefore trading up for a specific player is usually an ineffective proposition in the long term team building perspective. I don't think having fewer perceived 1st round prospects will spurn more teams to chase perceived value. Player 20-32 don't suddenly become inferior prospects because of perception of grades.

3rd, if there are so few ' true' 1st round prospects then why would those 19 teams want to trade down?

Its an interesting theory that more trades will happen then usual but I disagree and I also disagree with the anon GM's notion of there only being "19 " 1st round prospects.

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Seems like Gruden has a lot of confidence in Moses. Having Callahan as our new O-Line coach will hopefully help these guys reach their potential.
[url=http://was.247sports.com/Bolt/Recovery-going-well-for-Morgan-Moses--36960489]Recovery going well for Morgan Moses[/url]

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1111592]Oh please, oh please let this be true ...


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For multiple reasons, but if the Browns do that dumb shit then they are even stupider than I thought

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[quote=53Fan;1111634]Seems like Gruden has a lot of confidence in Moses. Having Callahan as our new O-Line coach will hopefully help these guys reach their potential.
[url=http://was.247sports.com/Bolt/Recovery-going-well-for-Morgan-Moses--36960489]Recovery going well for Morgan Moses[/url][/quote]Thanks for the info.

I'm hoping Moses recovers from that lis franc? injury. Although many media/ fans like to bag on the dude like he's a bum I thought he played well when he was in the game. If you like advanced metrics like PFF there grading supports that view point as well.

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[quote=30gut;1111636]Thanks for the info.

I'm hoping Moses recovers from that lis franc? injury. Although many media/ fans like to bag on the dude like he's a bum I thought he played well when he was in the game. If you like advanced metrics like PFF there grading supports that view point as well.[/quote]

You bet! I agree. To completely dismiss Moses and throw him in the Bucket of Bums would be a big mistake IMO. His recovery seems to be going well and I expect continued improvement.

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[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/04/24/desean-jackson-lands-reality-show-deal-with-bet/]DeSean Jackson lands reality show deal with BET - The Washington Post[/url]

:Smoker:

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/04/28/report-dion-jordan-suspended-for-2015-season/]Report: Dion Jordan to be suspended for the 2015 season | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=Chico23231;1111773][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/04/28/report-dion-jordan-suspended-for-2015-season/]Report: Dion Jordan to be suspended for the 2015 season | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

One less DL man chasing RG3 game 1.

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Do ya blame him, I dont...:eek:

[url]https://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/celeb-news/bill-belichick-s-girlfriend-totally-understands-the-chrissy-teigen-appeal--too-165829605.html[/url]

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dribble

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Just idly curious: Can players still be suspended for marijuana use, if they play for Seattle, Denver, or anywhere else pot is legal?

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Yes, against "NFL" law to burn the weed. Against company rules......

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Seems like a lot of smoke being blown.


[B]@AllbrightNFL

#Titans previously rejected #Browns 2 1st rounder offer, asking for them to include their second as well.[/B]





[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/04/29/report-mariotas-camp-believes-chargers-eagles-trying-to-trade-up-to-draft-him/]Report: Mariota’s camp believes Chargers, Eagles trying to trade up to draft him | ProFootballTalk[/url]


Browns, Chargers, Eagles....oh my

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When was the last time the skins drafted a "can't miss guy"? Was it trent williams? Robert had some Qs and rak was just a bust. Hopefully that changes tomorrow night with our pick.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1111857]When was the last time the skins drafted a "can't miss guy"? Was it trent williams? Robert had some Qs and rak was just a bust. Hopefully that changes tomorrow night with our pick.[/quote]I wouldn't call Orakpo a bust. He couldn't stay healthy at the end here, but his rookie year was great, and overall he was a good player and starter.

Yeah, Trent Williams and before him Chris Samuels seems like "can't miss" players. Thought Lavar Arrington was too, even though he turned out to be Mr. "can't get right" and a turd afterwards (can't believe Snyder put him in the Skins Ring of Fame) he was still a probowler.

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Sean Taylor was clearly going to be a star. And was, albeit for far, far too short a time.

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Sean was amazing, he honestly could have been the best player in franchise history when it was all said and done

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Who's to say Sean wouldn't have become dissatisfied with the coaching merry go round, losing and refuse to extend his contract like Champ Bailey? Just saying.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1111867]Who's to say Sean wouldn't have become dissatisfied with the coaching merry go round, losing and refuse to extend his contract like Champ Bailey? Just saying.[/quote]

A lot more when into Champ leaving besides just a contract

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1111870]A lot more when into Champ leaving besides just a contract[/quote]

I said losing and coaching carousel, today's player wants to win like LeBron. I miss the days of Walter Payton playing for a shitty bears team and becoming a powerhouse.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1111871]I said losing and coaching carousel, today's player wants to win like LeBron. I miss the says of Walter Payton playing for a shifty bears team and becoming a powerhouse.[/quote]

Pretty sure it was more than that too

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1111871]I said losing and coaching carousel, today's player wants to win like LeBron. I miss the days of Walter Payton playing for a shitty bears team and becoming a powerhouse.[/QUOTE]
Well losing ST probably lost us Gibbs which I think restarted the carousel. It was a dark day in Skins history.

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Chip Kelly is at it again, Kendricks would be a real nice pickup.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000488909/article/brandon-boykin-mychal-kendricks-on-trading-block]Brandon Boykin, Mychal Kendricks on trading block - NFL.com[/url]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1111873]Well losing ST probably lost us Gibbs who I think which restarted the carousel. It was a dark day in Skins history.

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Losing ST did nothing in the grand scheme in term of Gibbs walking away. Gibbs wasn't dumb. He knew the team was old and that he had no depth. He simply bailed while he could still muster a competitive team. He knew good and well the moves they made were short term and the window had closed. There wasn't anything noble or some higher calling for Gibbs walking away. He simply quit while the getting was good.