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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1272318]Bills fans (or at least some) don't want Cuomo at playoff game.

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/us/petition-ban-ny-gov-cuomo-bills-playoff-game[/url][/quote]

Just a guess but I imagine it is close to a 45%-55% split? IMO Cuomo needs to practice what he preaches. What's good for the gander is good for the goose.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1272318]Bills fans (or at least some) don't want Cuomo at playoff game.

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/us/petition-ban-ny-gov-cuomo-bills-playoff-game[/url][/quote]

Pretty sure he's a Bills fan himself.

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Not a fan of this idea in fact I think it is bad. Maybe in two weeks we will be more stream lined but doubt it.

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/01/08/coronavirus-covid-live-updates-us/[/url]

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California will let people die from COVID for the sake of "equity". So an older white person that is way more susceptible to dying from COVID might have to wait for a way less likely non-white younger person to die from COVID, to get the vaccine 1st. Equity! Fuck your life, you privileged son of a bitch. Let's fix racism by killing people.

Mom - I know you busted your ass your whole career being a server for banquets at Hilton hotels and you have COPD (she has never smoked a cigarette), but you're white, sorry. You have zero equity points available. Go fuck yourself.

I have volunteered to go last in the whole country for this vaccine, so this isn't about me trying to get my shot faster. It's just fucking epic dumb fuckery in my home state.

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Need to go ahead and place this here before the left does there best to rewrite history they don’t like.

[url]https://www.dailywire.com/news/bidens-false-narrative-im-the-hero-on-vaccines-not-trump-media-uncritically-agrees[/url]

To make this seem like it will be Biden’s accomplishment, CNN has now reported that administration officials are claiming they inherited “no coronavirus vaccine distribution plan to speak of from the Trump administration.” Nowhere in the article does CNN acknowledge that more than 17 million vaccines have already been administered and [B]that nearly one million vaccines are already being administered per day.[/B]

CNN’s claim that Biden inherited no vaccine distribution plan is also demonstrably false, considering the fact that 36 million vaccines have already been distributed to states and the distribution strategy is publicly available.

Administration of the vaccine has already increased since it was first made available. Bloomberg has a vaccine tracker that shows an average of 912,497 doses per day were administered last week.

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[url]https://www.baltimoresun.com/coronavirus/bs-md-hogan-salmon-covid-schools-update-20210121-5r74ewa7nnfg7bq4hjsdrwcfju-story.html[/url]

Maryland Gov. Hogan calls on schools to bring students back to classrooms by March

Like I’ve continued to say since last summer, there is no science behind keeping kids out of in person learning. Studies have shown since last summer there is no community spread of coronavirus from in person school teacher.

Get in the classrooms now!

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[url]https://www.sfgate.com/coronavirus/article/California-COVID-vaccine-rank-states-numbers-last-15890734.php[/url]

California now ranks dead last in administering COVID-19 vaccines

Governor Blackface here in Va 48th. What a fucking disgrace. We have vaccinations sitting here doing nothing.

This week, the 49th, 48th and 47th ranked states in order are Minnesota (39.8%), Virginia (40.2%) and Alabama (41.1%).

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[quote=Chico23231;1274898][url]https://www.baltimoresun.com/coronavirus/bs-md-hogan-salmon-covid-schools-update-20210121-5r74ewa7nnfg7bq4hjsdrwcfju-story.html[/url]

Maryland Gov. Hogan calls on schools to bring students back to classrooms by March

Like I’ve continued to say since last summer, there is no science behind keeping kids out of in person learning. Studies have shown since last summer there is no community spread of coronavirus from in person school teacher.

Get in the classrooms now![/quote]

First and foremost you were and are wrong but the schools were bringing kids back anyway , Wife's start on Monday here in Maryland.

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“There is nothing we can do to change the trajectory of the pandemic in the next several months”

President Biden. Hmm that’s not what he promised on the campaign trail

A mask challenge...psssshh not a plan, as most Americans have been doing this regularly

Vaccine delivered by trump which had avg 920,00 vaccination a day in the ten days leading up to Biden first day. 100 million vaccines in first 100 days= essentially the same thing trump was delivering...

One of Biden administration first lies was trump had no plan...”start from scratch”. Fauci immediately contradicted Biden and blew that lie out the water in interviews after the president had stated it with the vaccine stats above, context of how we are out move faster than other countries and the plan has been posted for months on the federal health and human services department for months.

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[quote=Chico23231;1275161]“There is nothing we can do to change the trajectory of the pandemic in the next several months”

President Biden. Hmm that’s not what he promised on the campaign trail

A mask challenge...psssshh not a plan, as most Americans have been doing this regularly

Vaccine delivered by trump which had avg 920,00 vaccination a day in the ten days leading up to Biden first day. 100 million vaccines in first 100 days= essentially the same thing trump was delivering...

One of Biden administration first lies was trump had no plan...”start from scratch”. Fauci immediately contradicted Biden and blew that lie out the water in interviews after the president had stated it with the vaccine stats above, context of how we are out move faster than other countries and the plan has been posted for months on the federal health and human services department for months.[/quote]

chico,................................



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Chicago Teachers Union Votes To Refuse In-Person Teaching, Will Not Show For Work

[url]https://www.dailywire.com/news/chicago-teachers-union-votes-to-refuse-in-person-teaching-will-not-show-for-work[/url]

U want to know why Chicago is a shithole, read that. All this follow the science is horseshit...they are lazy and trifling like the kids they set the example for.

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[quote=Chico23231;1275225]Chicago Teachers Union Votes To Refuse In-Person Teaching, Will Not Show For Work

[url]https://www.dailywire.com/news/chicago-teachers-union-votes-to-refuse-in-person-teaching-will-not-show-for-work[/url]

U want to know why Chicago is a shithole, read that. All this follow the science is horseshit...they are lazy and trifling like the kids they set the example for.[/quote]

:sleep:

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“A WA teacher's union president says reopening schools is an example of "white supremacy," concern over a child's mental health or suicide risk is "white privilege," and push to reopen schools is like rioters pushing to enter the U.S. Capitol”

Fairfax County teachers union demanded that teachers be put to the front of the vaccine line in order for school to resume. They got their wish, teachers were vaccinated, and now they're still refusing to return to work. This is cowardice and selfishness on a level rarely seen.

These are the clowns teaching your kids. Keeping schools closed in defiance of science is not surprising and the fact most have come together to avoid their job is an open and shut case of corruption

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Virginia is now the worst state in the nation when it comes to administering covid vaccine. 42.2% of doses delivered to the state have been used. North Dakota is now 1 with 84.5% This according to Becker's Hospital Review.

Thanks to dem leadership and nothing else.

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[quote=Chico23231;1275444]Virginia is now the worst state in the nation when it comes to administering covid vaccine. 42.2% of doses delivered to the state have been used. North Dakota is now 1 with 84.5% This according to Becker's Hospital Review.

Thanks to dem leadership and nothing else.[/quote]

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But Virginia is the worst is an absolute and their plan to dispute the vaccine has failed.

You can’t sit on vaccines and they complain about anything...they have still had nearly a third of the 3.3 billion in cares money when they were told vaccine was coming

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I want my vaccine. I want my kid to get the damn vaccine so she can play soccer this spring. We can go to pools. Actually go out to nice sit down restaurants. farmer markets.

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Maryland initially focused on Phase 1A, which includes health care workers, first responders, correctional officers and residents and staff of nursing homes. On Jan. 18, the state opened vaccines to people in Phase 1B, including people 75 and up, assisted living facility residents and staff that weren't covered in Phase 1A, teachers, people with developmental disabilities and certain high-risk inmates. [B]Phase 1C vaccination began on Jan. 25, allowing people 65 and up and certain types of essential workers like grocery store and public transit employees to be immunized.[/B] After Phase 1C will be Phase 2, which includes people over the age of 16 with significant underlying medical conditions.
[url]https://states.aarp.org/maryland/covid-19-vaccine-distribution[/url]

tell your parents, if youre lucky enough to still have them on this earth, to get their vaccine asap. 65 and older now.

its like some boarding the plane type stuff with phases and groups.

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My mom is 65 and up and has COPD. Still waiting for CA and/or her medical coverage to schedule her appointment.

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[quote=Chico23231;1274788]Need to go ahead and place this here before the left does there best to rewrite history they don’t like.

[url]https://www.dailywire.com/news/bidens-false-narrative-im-the-hero-on-vaccines-not-trump-media-uncritically-agrees[/url]

To make this seem like it will be Biden’s accomplishment, CNN has now reported that administration officials are claiming they inherited “no coronavirus vaccine distribution plan to speak of from the Trump administration.” Nowhere in the article does CNN acknowledge that more than 17 million vaccines have already been administered and [B]that nearly one million vaccines are already being administered per day.[/B]

CNN’s claim that Biden inherited no vaccine distribution plan is also demonstrably false, considering the fact that 36 million vaccines have already been distributed to states and the distribution strategy is publicly available.

Administration of the vaccine has already increased since it was first made available. Bloomberg has a vaccine tracker that shows an average of 912,497 doses per day were administered last week.[/quote]

So it seems the Federal plan was give the vaccine to the states and let them figure it out from there. Is that what you're counting as a "distribution plan"?

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[quote=MTK;1275461]So it seems the Federal plan was give the vaccine to the states and let them figure it out from there. Is that what you're counting as a "distribution plan"?[/quote]

That should be the distribution plan. States and local governments should be better equipped to handle their local distributions. Should be! Instead of worrying about who runs each state, we should be worried about how each state can improve its operations, in the event of future need. The federal government can assist as needed or requested, but states have had lots of time to get a coherent plan in place.

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Seems that leaving things up to the states is part of how we get so deep into the weeds to begin with.

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[quote=MTK;1275467]Seems that leaving things up to the states is part of how we get so deep into the weeds to begin with.[/quote]

CA collects taxes, I expect them to use them productively. The federal government doesn't have the manpower or resources to administer vaccines to 350ish million people. State and local governments have just as much an obligation to their constituents as the federal government.

Note - I'm not saying the federal government did an excellent job, but states need to be held accountable too. The federal government was never meant to babysit all 50 states.

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[quote=MTK;1275461]So it seems the Federal plan was give the vaccine to the states and let them figure it out from there. Is that what you're counting as a "distribution plan"?[/quote]

Laughable comment..that’s what Democrats would like u to believe and is a talking point. I guess the 17 million plus vaccination prior to Biden just miraculously occurred...the Trump adm had already ramped up to nearly 1 million per day as Biden took office.

The Big Fauci already corrected the Biden administration day 1 lie of “no plan.” It’s like when the experts and media lied that trump couldn’t get the vaccine out before end of year.

Health and human department had the plan on the website...a total of 60-some individual plans were developed and assisted by CDC in vaccination strategies depending on where in the country they went.

Estimated 300 meetings with Biden transition team with the covid strategy including vaccination plan. Meetings with governors...via zoom and conference calls...some who didn’t bother to show.

Yet here we are with states like mine with vaccinations sitting around and incompetent governors complaining about supply and money when we have both.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1275469]CA collects taxes, I expect them to use them productively. The federal government doesn't have the manpower or resources to administer vaccines to 350ish million people. State and local governments have just as much an obligation to their constituents as the federal government.

Note - I'm not saying the federal government did an excellent job, but states need to be held accountable too. The federal government was never meant to babysit all 50 states.[/quote]

California has been an absolute disgrace per the usual. Incompetent dem run from top to bottom.

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Is it the "phase" distribution approach?

if a State gets 500k vaccines but phase 1A calls for hospital workers only for 3 weeks until phase 1B .. there arent 500k hospital workers in MD. So maybe 60k hospital workers get it over 3 weeks while 440k vaccines sti and waitr for phase 1b, then 1c etc

i am just guessing here with hypotheticals.

i found md testing sites to be well run.

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[quote=Chico23231;1275470]Laughable comment..that’s what Democrats would like u to believe and is a talking point. I guess the 17 million plus vaccination prior to Biden just miraculously occurred...the Trump adm had already ramped up to nearly 1 million per day as Biden took office.

The Big Fauci already corrected the Biden administration day 1 lie of “no plan.” It’s like when the experts and media lied that trump couldn’t get the vaccine out before end of year.

Health and human department had the plan on the website...a total of 60-some individual plans were developed and assisted by CDC in vaccination strategies depending on where in the country they went.

Estimated 300 meetings with Biden transition team with the covid strategy including vaccination plan. Meetings with governors...via zoom and conference calls...some who didn’t bother to show.

Yet here we are with states like mine with vaccinations sitting around and incompetent governors complaining about supply and money when we have both.[/quote]

Got it, so the Fed has done everything they can possibly do, it's just the states bumbling around as per usual.

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[quote=MTK;1275484]Got it, so the Fed has done everything they can possibly do, it's just the states bumbling around as per usual.[/quote]

Dude...I didn’t say that. I’m sure the plan could be better, but this is the federal government we are talking about. People seriously want their healthcare and other aspects of their daily lives run by these folks?

Just the narrative Biden rolled out immediately is a lie and proven so. Trump mismanaged a lot at the beginning...no doubt but once testing ramped up and they became vaccine focus, it was a lot better.

Biden did the right thing walking back 100 million in 100 days yesterday...we will meet and beat that easily. I think we will be doubling it.

But these lies of Biden saying day 1 he would beat the virus or first thing he is doing is authorizing 2000 to everyone...these were and are lies.

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Once this is finally over and done I just hope we have a better pandemic response plan in place for the future. Because if we're ever hit with a more serious virus we're gonna be in a world of hurt.

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[quote=MTK;1275488]Once this is finally over and done I just hope we have a better pandemic response plan in place for the future. Because if we're ever hit with a more serious virus we're gonna be in a world of hurt.[/quote]

This x1000. Thread closer. Politics aside this is the most important thing we should all be able to agree with. This will be my last post in this thread. I'll stick with the non-political thread, if anything, going forwards.

Unite the clans!!

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[quote=Chico23231;1275487]Dude...I didn’t say that. I’m sure the plan could be better, but this is the federal government we are talking about. People seriously want their healthcare and other aspects of their daily lives run by these folks?

Just the narrative Biden rolled out immediately is a lie and proven so. Trump mismanaged a lot at the beginning...no doubt but once testing ramped up and they became vaccine focus, it was a lot better.

Biden did the right thing walking back 100 million in 100 days yesterday...we will meet and beat that easily. I think we will be doubling it.

[B]But these lies of Biden saying day 1 he would beat the virus or first thing he is doing is authorizing 2000 to everyone[/B]...these were and are lies.[/quote]

Can't speak for anyone else but everything I heard about those two subjects were from people not speaking for the Biden administration... aka wishful thinking. Would I love to get another $1400 check soon? Fuck yeah. Am I gonna hold my breath waiting for it? Absolutely not.

The only people I heard saying Biden would beat the virus on day 1 (or it would magically disappear) were radical conservatives who think the 'rona is a hoax.

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[quote=mooby;1275497]Can't speak for anyone else but everything I heard about those two subjects were from people not speaking for the Biden administration... aka wishful thinking. Would I love to get another $1400 check soon? Fuck yeah. Am I gonna hold my breath waiting for it? Absolutely not.

The only people I heard saying Biden would beat the virus on day 1 (or it would magically disappear) were radical conservatives who think the 'rona is a hoax.[/quote]

Cool I’ll produce the statements from Biden himself...I don’t remember Biden saying “there is nothing we can do about the China virus “ like he said yesterday from the campaign trail...do you? Nope he claimed the opposite

Also, mooby...when Biden called trump shutdown of travel from China xenophobia and then ban from Europe won’t work...when he just signed the orders 2 days ago....xenophobic and bad strategy again or naw?

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Birx claimed on Sunday that someone was giving Trump different data than she was working with.

US SURGEON GENERAL JEROME ADAMS PENS FAREWELL MESSAGE: 'THIS HAS BEEN THE HONOR OF MY LIFE'

"I saw the president presenting graphs that I never made," Birx told CBS "Face the Nation." "So, I know that someone — or someone out there or someone inside was creating a parallel set of data and graphics that were shown to the president. I don't know to this day who, but I know what I sent up and I know that what was in his hands was different from that. That worries me because at any moment — I've built my career on data transparency and accountability."

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fauci-birx-jerome-adams-trump-coronavirus[/url]

In his first news briefing since President Joe Biden was sworn in, Fauci said that the new administration was committed to being "completely transparent, open and honest," a sharp break from the Trump White House, when Fauci said he often felt there would be repercussions for speaking honestly about the pandemic.

"It was very clear that there were things said, be it regarding things like hydroxychloroquine and other things like that, that really was uncomfortable because they were not based in scientific fact," Fauci told reporters, speaking about the Trump administration.

"The idea that you can get up and talk about what you know, what the evidence is, what the science is," Fauci continued, "it is somewhat of a liberating feeling."

[url]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/dr-anthony-fauci-says-he-now-feels-liberated-speak-freely-n1255220[/url]

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“I didn’t want to be at odds with the president because I have a lot of respect for the office of the presidency, but there was conflict at different levels with different people and different organizations and a lot of pressure being put on to do things that just are not compatible with the science,” he said.

“It’s a real aberrancy,” he later added. “This is my seventh administration, Rachel, and I’ve been advising administrations and presidents on both sides of the aisle, Republicans and Democrats, people with different ideologies, and even with differences in ideology, there never was this real affront on science. So it really was an aberrancy that I haven’t seen in almost 40 years that I’ve been doing this. So it’s just one of those things that is chilling when you see it happen."

[url]https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/535515-fauci-describes-chilling-pressure-on-scientists-in-trump-era[/url]

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[quote=Chico23231;1275506]Cool I’ll produce the statements from Biden himself...I don’t remember Biden saying “there is nothing we can do about the China virus “ like he said yesterday from the campaign trail...do you? Nope he claimed the opposite

Also, mooby...when Biden called trump shutdown of travel from China xenophobia and then ban from Europe won’t work...when he just signed the orders 2 days ago....xenophobic and bad strategy again or naw?[/quote]

Biden said COVID would be defeated on day one of his administration? What are you waiting for, produce the statements.

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[quote=mooby;1275516]Biden said COVID would be defeated on day one of his administration? What are you waiting for, produce the statements.[/quote]

Mooby you know I love ya ...I’m working on m-fing project that is pissing me eff off in every direction...will be back to hold the line and own the libs shortly

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[quote=Chico23231;1275506]Cool I’ll produce the statements from Biden himself...I don’t remember Biden saying “there is nothing we can do about the China virus “ like he said yesterday from the campaign trail...do you? Nope he claimed the opposite

Also, mooby...when Biden called trump shutdown of travel from China xenophobia and then ban from Europe won’t work...when he just signed the orders 2 days ago....xenophobic and bad strategy again or naw?[/quote]

You will never get a politician to own their mistakes. For once it would be refreshing. I would like to hear Biden say "I didn't think it was a good idea at the time but in hindsight the president was correct to be quick acting in restricting travel" I won't be holding my breath though.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1275629]You will never get a politician to own their mistakes. For once it would be refreshing. I would like to hear Biden say "I didn't think it was a good idea at the time but in hindsight the president was correct to be quick acting in restricting travel" I won't be holding my breath though.[/quote]

+1

I agree with you on this.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1275629]You will never get a politician to own their mistakes. For once it would be refreshing. I would like to hear Biden say "I didn't think it was a good idea at the time but in hindsight the president was correct to be quick acting in restricting travel" I won't be holding my breath though.[/quote]

If you campaign that you will shutdown the virus and then in less then 10 days in say there is nothing you can do to stop it for at least 3 months and then even a couple days later state, looking like October...

Then you have essentially lied. And his so called plan, is just trumps minus federal property mask-mandates. This Biden plan is then a lie.

Kinda like when Biden stated “if we take the Georgia races then my first act will be to send out $2000 checks”

That’s a lie.

Lying now is not acceptable because Biden’s in office.