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[quote=punch it in;1317904]You’re an idiot. The end.[/quote]

Punch why are you in a bad mood today? And why do I see libs calling for violence against people tonight. Even some calling for the death of scotus?

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1317906]Punch why are you in a bad mood today? And why do I see libs calling for violence against people tonight. Even some calling for the death of scotus?

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Im in a fantastic mood. It’s Friday. My good friend is in town. Yesterday was my anniversary. Just finished the yard work. My other friend has heady toppers. The weather is perfect. I have absolutely killer edibles. Darkstar orchestra is playing on the beach tomorrow night and I got free tickets. I could literally go on and on. I mean I literally could not be in a better place.
As far as what the Supreme court did today (pander to the political far right) well don’t worry about me Chico. Worry about women. Me and you, as men, should have no say. Know what I mean bro? (Tongue in cheek there, of course you don’t know what i mean. Lol).
Be less of an idiot and I hope your weekend is half as good as what I got lined up!

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Liars

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Same sex marriage will be next just watch

Strange day when people are celebrating the loss of women’s rights, something the majority of the country does not support

This could come back to haunt Republicans big time, even the orange idiot thought so


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[quote=MTK;1317908]Liars

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Same sex marriage will be next just watch

Strange day when people are celebrating the loss of women’s rights, something the majority of the country does not support

This could come back to haunt Republicans big time, even the orange idiot thought so


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If the majority of the country wants to legalize abortion, then have the lawmakers put their names to bills. The Supreme Court simply upheld the fact that abortion is not an inherent right. States, and local populations can vote to make it legal or illegal, so the pro-abortion movement ought to have no problem getting those laws passed.

separately:
[url]https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-wont-the-left-talk-about-racial-disparities-in-abortion-low-income-marriage-pro-choice-11652218772[/url]
[quote]Nationally, the number of babies aborted by black women each year far exceeds the combined number of blacks who drop out of school, who are sent to prison and who are murdered. [/quote]

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I don’t subscribe to the WSJ so unfortunately I can’t read that article, where are you going with that point that we have a black abortion problem?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1317909]If the majority of the country wants to legalize abortion, then have the lawmakers put their names to bills. The Supreme Court simply upheld the fact that abortion is not an inherent right. States, and local populations can vote to make it legal or illegal, so the pro-abortion movement ought to have no problem getting those laws passed.

separately:
[url]https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-wont-the-left-talk-about-racial-disparities-in-abortion-low-income-marriage-pro-choice-11652218772[/url][/quote]

BS, the Supreme Court Justice's use to wear Black Robes , now they are Blue and Red.


Sad how they say they are protecting unborn children but won't pass laws stop the murder of children in schools becuase everyone needs a gun.

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[quote=MTK;1317908]Liars

[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220624/8cf794616021d0665e473cfdc4c96fb4.jpg[/IMG]

Same sex marriage will be next just watch

Strange day when people are celebrating the loss of women’s rights, something the majority of the country does not support

This could come back to haunt Republicans big time, even the orange idiot thought so


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Hopefully this will burn republicans at the ballot box!

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[quote=Giantone;1317915]BS, the Supreme Court Justice's use to wear Black Robes , now they are Blue and Red.


Sad how they say they are protecting unborn children but won't pass laws stop the murder of children in schools becuase everyone needs a gun.[/quote]

Again, 2019 alone saw 625,000+ legal abortions. If even 10% of those abortions could have gone on to live meaningful happy lives, that is over 64,000 lives lost due to lifestyle choices. The other 90% include rape/incest/risk to the woman's live due to age or other risk factors along with some that are very likely lifestyle choice alone but for the sake of making a point I am reducing the number to a bare minimum that could definitely be counted as a lifestyle choice alone

Lives lost in 2019 due to gun violence of any type? 39,707 gun deaths

stats -
[quote]In the District of Columbia and 47 states that reported data to the CDC in 2019, the majority of women who had abortions (57%) were in their 20s, while about three-in-ten (31%) were in their 30s. Teens ages 13 to 19 accounted for 9% of those who had abortions, while women in their 40s accounted for 4%. {sidenote by me: 88% were women between 20 and 39, teens and women over 40 both have obvious and apparent risk to life during pregnancy}{second sidenote: I looked up rape statistics, and admit I am aghast by the number - [B][I][U]2019 rapes as reported by the department of Justice - 459,310[/U][/I][/B]. Given that rape is known to be highly under reported, this number and rape prevention deserve far more attention than either abortion or gun control in my point of lives lost/affected}

[url]https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/06/24/what-the-data-says-about-abortion-in-the-u-s-2/[/url][/quote]
[quote]In 2019, there were 39,707 gun deaths in the U.S., of which
Approximately three in five were suicides, and 36% were homicides.[B] 3,390 were children and teens (ages 0-19 years)[/B]. 86% were male. Massachusetts had the lowest gun death rate, while Alaska had the highest.

New 2019 CDC Datahttps://efsgv.org › press › new-2019-cdc-data
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If you want to talk about childrens lives lost, the argument of gun control vs limiting access to abortion is a no-brainer. Abortion destroys more lives by far than gun violence. If you want to argue that abortion impacts a woman's body only, so it is her "rights" that are being violated, you at least can make that argument. I think the rights of the unborn should be at least equal to a couple that chooses purely for convenience to abort that unborn child.

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[quote=MTK;1317914]I don’t subscribe to the WSJ so unfortunately I can’t read that article, where are you going with that point that we have a black abortion problem?[/quote]

Actually the article makes the case that the strongest determination in abortions is marriage status. The link I posted in response to G1 also shows that, with something like 85% of abortions are given to unwed pregnancies, and 15% to women who are married. Tie that with the destruction of the black family due to the insane war on drugs, and marijuana in particular, and you see where this country (both parties) have decimated black lives. It's a sad state that this fact gets overridden by the politics of liberals and conservatives vying to pump up their base.

Focusing on the sanctity of life, and the value of strong families, used to be a big part of what made the US a strong nation. Now we get parasitic politicians on both sides of the aisle who focus on single issue politics to whip core constituencies into frenzies. It has gone to a whole new level since Trump took office, and yes Trump is to blame for the blatant spewing of anti-civil discourse rhetoric, and I see the left to blame as well for constantly turning things into "THE GREATEST THREAT EVER" every chance they get.

The Supreme Court ruling opens the door for banning abortion, that is true. It also opens the door to states listening to their local electorate and legalizing abortion. The 10th amendment works when people let it. Most laws should not be federalized or back-doored into law by claiming actions not found in the Constitution as Constitutional Rights. And for G1, there is a method to make abortion a constitutional right, amend the constitution. We have done it to correct the biases and errors of the white male land owners that put it together before, and we have done it to correct the errors of amendments (ie Prohibition then no prohibition). If Abortion is to be a right preserved by the Constitution, amend it.

ps. I don't subscribe to WSJ either. Their paywall is weird, sometimes I can read articles, other times it is blocked.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1317918]Actually the article makes the case that the strongest determination in abortions is marriage status. The link I posted in response to G1 also shows that, with something like 85% of abortions are given to unwed pregnancies, and 15% to women who are married. Tie that with the destruction of the black family due to the insane war on drugs, and marijuana in particular, and you see where this country (both parties) have decimated black lives. It's a sad state that this fact gets overridden by the politics of liberals and conservatives vying to pump up their base.

Focusing on the sanctity of life, and the value of strong families, used to be a big part of what made the US a strong nation. Now we get parasitic politicians on both sides of the aisle who focus on single issue politics to whip core constituencies into frenzies. It has gone to a whole new level since Trump took office, and yes Trump is to blame for the blatant spewing of anti-civil discourse rhetoric, and I see the left to blame as well for constantly turning things into "THE GREATEST THREAT EVER" every chance they get.

The Supreme Court ruling opens the door for banning abortion, that is true. It also opens the door to states listening to their local electorate and legalizing abortion. The 10th amendment works when people let it. Most laws should not be federalized or back-doored into law by claiming actions not found in the Constitution as Constitutional Rights. And for G1, there is a method to make abortion a constitutional right, amend the constitution. We have done it to correct the biases and errors of the white male land owners that put it together before, and we have done it to correct the errors of amendments (ie Prohibition then no prohibition). If Abortion is to be a right preserved by the Constitution, amend it.

ps. I don't subscribe to WSJ either. Their paywall is weird, sometimes I can read articles, other times it is blocked.[/quote]

You still don't address the lying by the SCJ's? Again you try to justify they say one thing and do another with your defense of abortion as oppose to stopping kids murdered in their classrooms.

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[quote=Giantone;1317916]Hopefully this will burn republicans at the ballot box![/quote]

[sarc]says our local Republican [/sarc]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1317920][sarc]says our local Republican [/sarc][/quote]

LOL hell of a retort from trump loving right wingers who deny it.

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[quote=Chico23231;1317906]Punch why are you in a bad mood today? And why do I see libs calling for violence against people tonight. Even some calling for the death of scotus?

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chico , this one post proves what I have said and thought about you is 200% true.

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[quote=Giantone;1317919]You still don't address the lying by the SCJ's? Again you try to justify they say one thing and do another with your defense of abortion as oppose to stopping kids murdered in their classrooms.[/quote]

Any politician who thought these justices were going to forever uphold Roe were smoking something, or just looking for political cover. I don't spend a whole lotta time worrying about that, any more than a liberal justice evading a conservative's question. The Senate members that confirmed each justice had years and years of case history to know where a candidate stood. That is how we all knew this day was coming when the justices were appointed.

I don't oppose stopping kids murdered in classrooms, on the contrary I am pointing out the hypocrisy of the rates. We should and can do both.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1317926]Any politician who thought these justices were going to forever uphold Roe were smoking something, or just looking for political cover. I don't spend a whole lotta time worrying about that, any more than a liberal justice evading a conservative's question. The Senate members that confirmed each justice had years and years of case history to know where a candidate stood. That is how we all knew this day was coming when the justices were appointed.

I don't oppose stopping kids murdered in classrooms, on the contrary I am pointing out the hypocrisy of the rates. We should and can do both.[/quote]

These people are Supreme Court Justice's of the United States of America their word should be gold , it's not but that doesn't seem to bother you.

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[quote=Giantone;1317928]These people are Supreme Court Justice's of the United States of America their word should be gold , it's not but that doesn't seem to bother you.[/quote]
I am not going to lose a lot of sleep over it, no. Anymore than I would if one of the liberal justices shockingly voted liberal after appeasing conservatives in the Senate.

The Roe V Wade test for Supreme Court Justices was a bogus question to begin with. It is a 50 year old "precedent" with questionable origins. That the Democratic Senators used it for years to pound conservative justices into submission is a bigger issue for me honestly. The question for SC Justices should be how they read the constitution and apply it, not individual partisan policies.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1317932]I am not going to lose a lot of sleep over it, no. Anymore than I would if one of the liberal justices shockingly voted liberal after appeasing conservatives in the Senate.

The Roe V Wade test for Supreme Court Justices was a bogus question to begin with. It is a 50 year old "precedent" with questionable origins. That the Democratic Senators used it for years to pound conservative justices into submission is a bigger issue for me honestly. The question for SC Justices should be how they read the constitution and apply it, not individual partisan policies.[/quote]

LOL, "It is a 50 year old "precedent" with questionable origins." BS, it was established law. Changing it was politically motivated and no other reason. JHC.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1317909]If the majority of the country wants to legalize abortion, then have the lawmakers put their names to bills. The Supreme Court simply upheld the fact that abortion is not an inherent right. States, and local populations can vote to make it legal or illegal, so the pro-abortion movement ought to have no problem getting those laws passed.

separately:
[url]https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-wont-the-left-talk-about-racial-disparities-in-abortion-low-income-marriage-pro-choice-11652218772[/url][/quote]

If only it were that easy

[URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/25/us/politics/abortion-ruling-states.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes"]Supreme Court Throws Abortion to an Unlevel State Playing Field[/URL]
The Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade shifted the abortion fight to state legislatures, where gerrymandering has given Republicans an advantage.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1317920][sarc]says our local Republican [/sarc][/QUOTE]


You can be a Republican and still be absolutely ashamed and disgusted by what Trump has done to the party. G-1 should be commended for being able to differentiate between Republicans and Trumpers. Most either hide the fact that they stand behind the man or just pretend it is a bump in the road that will go away. At least G-1 is honest.
The Republican party is dead. It is now the far right extreme white nationalist god guns and trump party.

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Cool that we're now ok with nominees lying through the hearings process just to get their seat. We know politicians do this, but I thought maybe we had higher standards for the highest court of the land. Silly me.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1317937]Cool that we're now ok with nominees lying through the hearings process just to get their seat. We know politicians do this, but I thought maybe we had higher standards for the highest court of the land. Silly me.[/QUOTE]


Such a stroke of misfortune that a psycho like Trump was there to appoint 3 judges.
He made it ok to lie, actually he made it cool.

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Sarah Huckabee Sanders: “We will make sure that when a kid is in the womb, they're as safe as they are in a classroom."

Ummmm

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Prayer Wins

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Don't know how he survived such a brutal attack

[URL="https://www.businessinsider.com/rudy-giuliani-account-of-supermarket-assault-differs-from-video-footage-2022-6"]Rudy Giuliani claimed a grocery-store employee's attack on him felt like a gunshot. CCTV footage shows he was slapped on the back.[/URL]

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[QUOTE=MTK;1317939]Sarah Huckabee Sanders: “We will make sure that when a kid is in the womb, they're as safe as they are in a classroom."

Ummmm[/QUOTE]


Did she really say this? How out of touch with reality can the right get? My God.

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[quote=MTK;1317942]Don't know how he survived such a brutal attack

[URL="https://www.businessinsider.com/rudy-giuliani-account-of-supermarket-assault-differs-from-video-footage-2022-6"]Rudy Giuliani claimed a grocery-store employee's attack on him felt like a gunshot. CCTV footage shows he was slapped on the back.[/URL][/quote]

Rudy clearly isn’t there anymore much like our President. I mean New York has a lot bigger problems with out of control crime than this slap on this back. He needs to let this go.

This still isn’t as big a lie as another New Yorker who claimed she almost died during Jan 6 when it came out she was never at the Capitol building.

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[quote=Chico23231;1317944]Rudy clearly isn’t there anymore much like our President. I mean New York has a lot bigger problems with out of control crime than this slap on this back. He needs to let this go.

This still isn’t as big a lie as another New Yorker who claimed she almost died during Jan 6 when it came out she was never at the Capitol building.[/quote]

Good try

CLAIM: U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a Democrat from New York, falsely claimed she faced rioters in the main Capitol building during the Jan. 6 insurrection.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Ocasio-Cortez never claimed she was in the main Capitol building, nor did she claim she was face-to-face with a mob of violent rioters. In an Instagram Live video about the riots, she explained that she was in her office in a neighboring building on the Capitol complex, where she experienced a frightening encounter with a Capitol police officer who she said didn’t announce himself.

[url]https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9951968706[/url]

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[quote=MTK;1317946]Good try

CLAIM: U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a Democrat from New York, falsely claimed she faced rioters in the main Capitol building during the Jan. 6 insurrection.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Ocasio-Cortez never claimed she was in the main Capitol building, nor did she claim she was face-to-face with a mob of violent rioters. In an Instagram Live video about the riots, she explained that she was in her office in a neighboring building on the Capitol complex, where she experienced a frightening encounter with a Capitol police officer who she said didn’t announce himself.

[url]https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9951968706[/url][/quote]

Lol…ok

Her words:

she described. "And I do not know if I can even disclose the full details of that event, due to security concerns. But I can tell you that I had a very close encounter where I thought I was going to die."

She was never in harms way…she says “can’t disclose full details” because then everyone would know it’s a complete lie or exaggeration at best. No rioters were ever in her building.

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Which was worse Rudy slap or Pelosi elbowing a child over the weekend?

[YT]EJWr9NHdSug[/YT]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJWr9NHdSug[/url]

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[QUOTE=MTK;1317946]Good try

CLAIM: U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a Democrat from New York, falsely claimed she faced rioters in the main Capitol building during the Jan. 6 insurrection.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Ocasio-Cortez never claimed she was in the main Capitol building, nor did she claim she was face-to-face with a mob of violent rioters. In an Instagram Live video about the riots, she explained that she was in her office in a neighboring building on the Capitol complex, where she experienced a frightening encounter with a Capitol police officer who she said didn’t announce himself.

[url]https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9951968706[/url][/QUOTE]


Uh oh a woman with a name that sounds alien. Chico gonna lose it. Lol. Those Trumptards hate women - especially ones in positions of power. Throw in a last name that isn’t Johnson or Thomas and they completely lose their shit.

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[quote=Chico23231;1317948]Which was worse Rudy slap or Pelosi elbowing a child over the weekend?

[YT]EJWr9NHdSug[/YT]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJWr9NHdSug[/url][/quote]

chico , you need a effing life man.

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1317950]chico , you need a effing life man.[/QUOTE]


He has one. He combs the internet and searches for things that make any liberal anywhere (especially females) look like worse people than Trump.
So funny how these minions of Trump are outraged by whoever Trump tells them to be outraged at. None of them gave a crap about AOC or Pelosi before they told Trump to pipe down.

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Folks calm down…the Rudy’s, Pelosi, AOC, Trumps of the world…we all just having fun pointing and laughing.

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[quote=punch it in;1317951]He has one. He combs the internet and searches for things that make any liberal anywhere (especially females) look like worse people than Trump.
So funny how these minions of Trump are outraged by whoever Trump tells them to be outraged at. None of them gave a crap about AOC or Pelosi before they told Trump to pipe down.[/quote]

He is just waiting for trump to tell him he's a man.

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Huh, that’s funny…the same people who told me drag queens were ok in elementary schools are now telling me now a coach praying on a school football field is a threat to kids.

Weird huh?

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[quote=Chico23231;1317964]Huh, that’s funny…the same people who told me drag queens were ok in elementary schools are now telling me now a coach praying on a school football field is a threat to kids.

Weird huh?[/quote]

chico , stop the drinking and drugs!

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[url]https://freebeacon.com/culture/adult-biological-man-beats-teenage-girl-to-win-womens-skateboarding-contest/[/url]

Adult Biological Man Beats Teenage Girl To Win Women’s Skateboarding Contest

Ricci Tres, who was born male but now identifies as female, on Saturday won a $500 prize for beating 13-year-old Shiloh Catori in the Boardr Open. Four of the six finalists were girls between the ages of 10 and 17.


In Brainstatic’s world, this is totally normal and another example of where the founding fathers failed.

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[quote=Chico23231;1317968][url]https://freebeacon.com/culture/adult-biological-man-beats-teenage-girl-to-win-womens-skateboarding-contest/[/url]

Adult Biological Man Beats Teenage Girl To Win Women’s Skateboarding Contest

Ricci Tres, who was born male but now identifies as female, on Saturday won a $500 prize for beating 13-year-old Shiloh Catori in the Boardr Open. Four of the six finalists were girls between the ages of 10 and 17.


In Brainstatic’s world, this is totally normal and another example of where the founding fathers failed.[/quote]

I think it is high time to take the "gender" aspect out of the equation and make the sports based on the biological sex. That would be my preferred choice but not incredibly equitable. If gender needs to be included then perhaps it is time to have four classifications for sports. The vatican itself used to be quite forward thinking. Pope Alexander VI used to host foot races in the vatican there were three categories: single men, single women and prostitutes.

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[IMG]https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/06/biden-instructions-021.jpg[/IMG]

Biden has a card which he accidentally showed the other day…actual instructions on it. It actually has a command: You take your seat. You make a brief a statement, etc.

The fuckin guy can’t even run a fuckin meeting let alone run the country.

When is enough, enough? Record crime, record gas prices, record inflation, record fetanyl deaths, record illegals crossing the border, etc

Seriously, what the fuck?

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These states with no exception abortion bans even in the case of rape and incest... man that's just seriously fucked up

Pro lifers you ok with that?