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We're already calling him CB1?

Anyway, it's not as if they are locking him in at the slot, they're just giving him some reps there.

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[quote=Meks;1342101]Would love to read but never love to pay. Even $2 lol[/quote]

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1342097]Get Forbes out of the slot. Can we just have 1 guy that is really good at his position. Rivera wants the damn longsnapper to have position flexibility.

Put Forbes at the boundary corner and then LEAVE HIM BE.[/quote]


[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1342102]CB1 is never going to play the slot if there is an injury. Anyone but Forbes should be moved inside if absolutely necessary.

Have we ever shadowed a WR before? Doesn't sound familiar.[/quote]

It's kinda funny how your posts contradicted each other. You said Forbes is our #1 CB and want Forbes to be only boundary CB and then you want our #1 CB to travel with #1 WR. Nowadays, it's pretty common for offense coordinators to move around #1 WR, including motioning the WR to the slot position. Therefore, our #1 CB must learn how to play both sides and slot positions. In other words, Rivera is doing what you want.

I do get the frustration feeling about Rivera's obsession with flexibility, I feel that way sometimes. Although with the DBs, it's important to be flexible with positions because some offense coordinators are always looking to exploit our defense weaknesses. We can mitigate this challenge by confusing QB on who is covering his #1 target, or this would make things easier for our defense when the #1 WR is motioned to a different position before the snap by transferring the coverage responsibility to other DB without running over to a different side.

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[quote=MTK;1342103]We're already calling him CB1?

Anyway, it's not as if they are locking him in at the slot, they're just giving him some reps there.[/quote]

I don't know about CB-1, but honestly he better be CB-Starter. I don't care where - outside, boundary, inside, slot...whatever. He better be good enough to take someone's job. (Psst, I'm looking at you Benjamin...with your 13 missed games in the last two years...)

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[quote=GridIron26;1342105]It's kinda funny how your posts contradicted each other. You said Forbes is our #1 CB and want Forbes to be only boundary CB [B]and then you want our #1 CB to travel with #1 WR.[/B] Nowadays, it's pretty common for offense coordinators to move around #1 WR, including motioning the WR to the slot position. Therefore, our #1 CB must learn how to play both sides and slot positions. In other words, Rivera is doing what you want.

I do get the frustration feeling about Rivera's obsession with flexibility, I feel that way sometimes. Although with the DBs, it's important to be flexible with positions because some offense coordinators are always looking to exploit our defense weaknesses. We can mitigate this challenge by confusing QB on who is covering his #1 target, or this would make things easier for our defense when the #1 WR is motioned to a different position before the snap by transferring the coverage responsibility to other DB without running over to a different side.[/quote]

No, I don't want him to. I want him to become a dominant boundary corner. You have one of those and you can make the offense work a lot harder to put up points.

I was seriously asking if we have ever done that before. Or at least recently. I don't remember it. Not sure if it's a feature or just never having a dominant CB1 to try it. But I don't recall us doing that.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1342106]I don't know about CB-1, but honestly he better be CB-Starter. I don't care where - outside, boundary, inside, slot...whatever. He better be good enough to take someone's job. (Psst, I'm looking at you Benjamin...with your 13 missed games in the last two years...)[/quote]

If we drafted a WR or a DL at No. 16, maybe I wouldn't expect him to be the No. 1 guy. I like Juste but he's always hurt and Fuller is solid but unspectacular. I don't believe Forbes was the pick if they didn't think he'd come in and be their best guy at that position.

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[quote=MTK;1342096][URL="https://theathletic.com/4518688/2023/05/15/commanders-rookie-camp-bieniemy-emmanuel-forbes/"]Commanders rookie camp: Eric Bieniemy’s early impact, Emmanuel Forbes tries the slot[/URL][/quote]

EB is what this team needs.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1342103]We're already calling him CB1?

Anyway, it's not as if they are locking him in at the slot, they're just giving him some reps there.[/QUOTE]


Dude can play anywhere he is needed. I think that was what we liked about him so much. When BSJ gets injured in game 2 we can rotate him.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1342108]If we drafted a WR or a DL at No. 16, maybe I wouldn't expect him to be the No. 1 guy. I like Juste but he's always hurt and Fuller is solid but unspectacular. I don't believe Forbes was the pick if they didn't think he'd come in and be their best guy at that position.[/quote]

Honestly, if St Juste were to stay healthy (BIG IF), it should be Forbes & St Juste on the outside and Fuller in the slot. Who is the "CB-1"? Don't care really. They will all have their moments...

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1342113]Honestly, if St Juste were to stay healthy (BIG IF), it should be Forbes & St Juste on the outside and Fuller in the slot. Who is the "CB-1"? Don't care really. They will all have their moments...[/quote]

I like Juste. He's talented and seems like a good dude. I'm pulling for him. Would be awesome for himself and us for him to play double digit games, hopefully closer to 17 than 10. Based on having real NFL experience, maybe he would be better than Forbes. Haven't seen the availability yet tho to be a possibility.

I just personally think Forbes will be our best CB Week 1.

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[quote=Chico23231;1342109]EB is what this team needs.[/quote]

Shady McCoy basically destroyed EB. He said didn't do anything when it came to game planning, play design or strategy. All he did was talk to the running backs during meetings. I get that he was a past his prime player but the fact that he was passed over so many times for a head job really makes me wonder.

Going to take a wait and see approach.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1342121]Shady McCoy basically destroyed EB. He said didn't do anything when it came to game planning, play design or strategy. All he did was talk to the running backs during meetings. I get that he was a past his prime player but the fact that he was passed over so many times for a head job really makes me wonder.

Going to take a wait and see approach.[/quote]

Lol when McCoy said negative things about EB, many other players immediately stood up for EB. This tells me that EB doesn't accept BS from any players and push players to play hard, which is exactly what we need.

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I think I'll believe the overwhelming praise from many coaches and players, over one player who didn't like his approach and the fact that EB called him out for fumbling...

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[quote=MTK;1342103][B]We're already calling him CB1?[/B]

Anyway, it's not as if they are locking him in at the slot, they're just giving him some reps there.[/quote]

He'd better be. You don't draft a player in the 1st Round to be a backup.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1342124]He'd better be. You don't draft a player in the 1st Round to be a backup.[/quote]

He can be CB3, and still be a starter. Tough to expect that he'll begin the season as the #1 CB. Not sure exactly how you determine that in week 1 anyway.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1342123]I think I'll believe the overwhelming praise from many coaches and players, over one player who didn't like his approach and the fact that EB called him out for fumbling...[/quote]

I get that and agree w/ you and Grid. Just taking a wait and see approach. Not saying he wasn't the man for the job. He's been w/ Reid now for several years. He's been around one of the best guys in the league as far as offense goes. It just seemed like the situation in KC was really strange. It's like they were pushing him out the door almost. And then him constantly getting passed over for head jobs.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1342136]I get that and agree w/ you and Grid. Just taking a wait and see approach. Not saying he wasn't the man for the job. He's been w/ Reid now for several years. He's been around one of the best guys in the league as far as offense goes. It just seemed like the situation in KC was really strange. It's like they were pushing him out the door almost. And then him constantly getting passed over for head jobs.[/quote]

Wait and see is the right approach. I'm with you there. The whole EB situation is/was strange, and something doesn't add up. I am hopeful that he was just wrongfully judged all those times he didn't get the HC job, and he is able to get this offense going, but it's equally possible that he won't. We just don't know. What I [I]do[/I] know is, we weren't going anywhere with S Turner's offense, and EB has a year to prove that he is the man for the job. I have mediocre expectations for a lot of reasons.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1342130]He can be CB3, and still be a starter. Tough to expect that he'll begin the season as the #1 CB. Not sure exactly how you determine that in week 1 anyway.[/quote]

Nah, first round pick, he should be leaving receivers on Forbes Island week 1.

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[quote=mooby;1342146]Nah, first round pick, he should be leaving receivers on Forbes Island week 1.[/quote]

I think you're kidding, but...

Top 5 (maybe 10) overall, perhaps. But I think those are pretty lofty expectations for a rookie CB for week 1, just because he was drafted in the 1st round. Maybe as the season progresses, or by year 2.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1342149]I think you're kidding, but...

Top 5 (maybe 10) overall, perhaps. But I think those are pretty lofty expectations for a rookie CB for week 1, just because he was drafted in the 1st round. Maybe as the season progresses, or by year 2.[/quote]

I am kidding.

Or not?

Nah, I am lol. I don't expect him to lock down receivers immediately. But we are woefully lacking in turnovers the last few years, I'm hoping he helps immediately in that department.

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last great cover corner we had was shawn springs pre-injury years (and carlos rogers was fine)... been a while though.

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[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/tom-brady-set-to-become-a-minority-owner-of-las-vegas-raiders-pending-nfl-approval-per-report/[/url]

Andrew Luck tampering dispute between Colts and Commanders finally gets resolved, per report

Nothing burger


Welp, Irsay get back to your drug binges, and crack whores, nothing to see here. Go O/D yourself bitch

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Tom Brady is just fvcking awesome.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1342149]I think you're kidding, but...

Top 5 (maybe 10) overall, perhaps. But I think those are pretty lofty expectations for a rookie CB for week 1, just because he was drafted in the 1st round. Maybe as the season progresses, or by year 2.[/quote]

You are confusing me. I don't even know what CB1, CB2, etc. means in terms of position, if anything. All I'm saying is that he was drafted in the 1st Round and if he is a true 1st Round talent he should be starting in Game 1 at some position in the secondary. First Rounders are plugged into starting lineups right away all over the league.

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@john_keim
First day of voluntary OTA workouts for the Commanders. All but 3 attended: Chase Young, Montez Sweat and Charles Leno, Jr. Per source. Again: voluntary.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1342242]@john_keim
First day of voluntary OTA workouts for the Commanders. All but 3 attended: Chase Young, Montez Sweat and Charles Leno, Jr. Per source. Again: voluntary.[/quote]

And coincidentally all 3 wanting new deals.

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[quote=Redskins247;1342243]And coincidentally all 3 wanting new deals.[/quote]

Wish we could have traded Young around the draft. I'm totally over him.

Extend Sweat and let all the other guys fill the other side.

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[quote=Redskins247;1342243]And coincidentally all 3 wanting new deals.[/quote]

Not heard about Leno wanting a new deal. If anyone is justified is staying away it would be Cam Kurl, but he is there......

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Fuck this Brian Davis muthafucker. We don’t need no more crazy. My god, go the fuck away

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1342231]You are confusing me. [B]I don't even know what CB1, CB2, etc. means[/B] in terms of position, if anything. All I'm saying is that he was drafted in the 1st Round and if he is a true 1st Round talent he should be starting in Game 1 at some position in the secondary. First Rounders are plugged into starting lineups right away all over the league.[/quote]

Sorry you are confused. I don't really know what CB1, CB2, etc. is either. I wasn't the one who called him that or indicated he would be that, nor do I subscribe to the idea that there actually is such a thing.

I do agree that he should be a starter. I don't agree with any expectations for him to be the best DB on the field in week 1.

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[quote=Redskins247;1342243]And coincidentally all 3 wanting new deals.[/quote]

Leno deserves a new deal. And not one he would like.

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Does the new fair catch rule include punts? If so we should only have rookie punters at the minimum wage.

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It's not for punts. It only applies to free kicks (safety or kickoff).

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[quote=Chico23231;1342248]Fuck this Brian Davis muthafucker. We don’t need no more crazy. My god, go the fuck away[/quote]

I imagine it'll be anti-slapp or something. wanting $500 billion for not being able to buy a $6billion team that you have $0billion to purchase it with is laughable.

who the f is going to ever allow someone that litigious to ever join their league?

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He's either stupid, or he has surrounded himself with idiots who are giving him terrible advice - probably both...

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1342285]He's either stupid, or he has surrounded himself with idiots who are giving him terrible advice - probably both...[/quote]

Sounds familiar...

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1342285]He's either stupid, or he has surrounded himself with idiots who are giving him terrible advice - probably both...[/quote]

Option C, he's a fucking scumbag.

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Shit - Armani Rodgers busted his Achilles. Was intrigued by his potential.


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