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mooby 01-16-2013 06:46 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;988990]Bears name Marc Trestman HC, great choice[/quote]

According to Elliot on DC101 Bears fans are freaking out about hiring a CFL coach. I guess we'll see how it works out. And a 4 am press release announcing the hiring? Clearly they are unconcerned with how people are going perceive the news.

SmootSmack 01-16-2013 08:11 AM

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Bears fans should do their research on the guy

Chico23231 01-16-2013 08:12 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;988990]Bears name Marc Trestman HC, great choice[/quote]

agree.

Ruhskins 01-16-2013 09:45 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;988990]Bears name Marc Trestman HC, great choice[/quote]

I saw this on Twitter, labeled as the "new Bears fan base" :)

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BAu4WYnCQAAJh53.jpg[/IMG]

Lotus 01-16-2013 09:45 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;988990]Bears name Marc Trestman HC, great choice[/quote]

Anyone who wins two Grey Cups and has a distinguished record besides is definitely worth a shot.

SOUL-SKINS 01-16-2013 09:52 AM

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SS .... Doesn't seem to be much interest in Kyle .
Have you heard anything otherwise. Thought he was going to be a hot candidate.
Hope he stays. So I guess this is a good thing.

SkinzWin 01-16-2013 10:10 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;988993]Bears fans should do their research on the guy[/quote]

Yeah they were naming off his accolades as a QB coach and OC while in the NFL and the guy pretty much produced QB's with great stats that were winners everywhere he went.

BigHairedAristocrat 01-16-2013 10:31 AM

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[quote=Lotus;989018]Anyone who wins two Grey Cups and has a distinguished record besides is definitely worth a shot.[/quote]

winning two grey cups is not a particularly impressive accomplishment. There are only 8 teams in the CFL for goodness sake. Other than that, i dont know what accomplishments he has that could be considered "distinguished." He's had alot of NFL position group/OC jobs over the years but none of them are remotely impressive.

From his his wikipedia webpage:

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Trestman#CFL]Marc Trestman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

[quote][B]NFL Draft Training Coach[/B]According to Trestman's website, "Marc has been one of the most trusted and respected QB coaches in the game. Which is why every off-season, the top NFL draft prospects call on Marc to work them out in preparation for the their Pro Day and the NFL Combine".

Some of the QBs who have been trained by Trestman include: Brandon [B]Weeden[/B] (1st round pick by the Cleveland Browns), [B]Brock Osweiler [/B](2nd round pick by the Denver Broncos), [B]Tim Tebow [/B](1st round pick by the Denver Broncos), [B]Jimmy Clausen [/B](2nd round pick by the Carolina Panthers) and [B]Jason Campbell [/B](1st round pick by the Washington Redskins).[/quote]

That list is a joke - I actually laughed out loud at my desk. Trestman takes bad quarterbacks and teaches them a few parlor tricks so they look deceptively good at their pro-days. Then, NFL teams spend high draft picks on these guys and they go on to become colossal busts. Trestman = Snake Oil.

I do agree with your thought that he "deserves a shot" - as opposed to others here who seem to think the Bears made some sort of great hire. Hey, everyone deserves a shot, right? Still, the Bears fired Lovie Smith for this guy, and I view that as a major downgrade.

CultBrennan59 01-16-2013 10:37 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;988990]Bears name Marc Trestman HC, great choice[/quote]

I agree. What his resume was as an OC throughout the NFL, speaks for itself. I think it'll work out great for him, the bears and jay cutler (hopefully Brandon Marshall won't bitch and whine at him like in the past with new HCs)

skinsfaninok 01-16-2013 10:42 AM

[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;989030]winning two grey cups is not a particularly impressive accomplishment. There are only 8 teams in the CFL for goodness sake. Other than that, i dont know what accomplishments he has that could be considered "distinguished." He's had alot of NFL position group/OC jobs over the years but none of them are remotely impressive.

From his his wikipedia webpage:

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Trestman#CFL]Marc Trestman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]



That list is a joke - I actually laughed out loud at my desk. Trestman takes bad quarterbacks and teaches them a few parlor tricks so they look deceptively good at their pro-days. Then, NFL teams spend high draft picks on these guys and they go on to become colossal busts. Trestman = Snake Oil.

I do agree with your thought that he "deserves a shot" - as opposed to others here who seem to think the Bears made some sort of great hire. Hey, everyone deserves a shot, right? Still, the Bears fired Lovie Smith for this guy, and I view that as a major downgrade.[/QUOTE]

Yeah idk much about the guy but that list is a terrible example to use lol.. also if he was so great why was he in the CFL?

SmootSmack 01-16-2013 10:44 AM

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;989019]SS .... Doesn't seem to be much interest in Kyle .
Have you heard anything otherwise. Thought he was going to be a hot candidate.
Hope he stays. So I guess this is a good thing.[/quote]

Well I thought Carolina might be an option, but otherwise no haven't heard anything

SmootSmack 01-16-2013 10:48 AM

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You should really do more research on Trestman. You're missing a lot

punch it in 01-16-2013 11:07 AM

[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;989030]winning two grey cups is not a particularly impressive accomplishment. There are only 8 teams in the CFL for goodness sake. Other than that, i dont know what accomplishments he has that could be considered "distinguished." He's had alot of NFL position group/OC jobs over the years but none of them are remotely impressive.

From his his wikipedia webpage:

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Trestman#CFL]Marc Trestman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]



That list is a joke - I actually laughed out loud at my desk. Trestman takes bad quarterbacks and teaches them a few parlor tricks so they look deceptively good at their pro-days. Then, NFL teams spend high draft picks on these guys and they go on to become colossal busts. Trestman = Snake Oil.

I do agree with your thought that he "deserves a shot" - as opposed to others here who seem to think the Bears made some sort of great hire. Hey, everyone deserves a shot, right? Still, the Bears fired Lovie Smith for this guy, and I view that as a major downgrade.[/QUOTE]

How about Kosar, Gannon, Plummer, and Scott Mitchell( for his one huge year) ?
Edit: as Arizona OC they went to the playoffs for the first time since 1982, and look at what he did in 2002 with Oakland as their OC. Everywhere the guy goes there is success and offensive records are broken. He won a bowl game with NC State as their OC.
This is a great hire.
Edit: also BHA that list is a list of guys he prepared for the draft. Prepped for the combines. So - the fact that they were pretty much busts as first round picks sort of speaks to his genius. I mean somehow he made them look goid enough for teams to buy in. He was not their coach. Look at the QB's he coached. Seems to me that when he is around a qb they shine. Whether for the combine or for the season.

SmootSmack 01-16-2013 11:08 AM

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Cowboys ST coach Joe DeCamillis taking same position with Bears whose ST coach left for same position with Chiefs

Lotus 01-16-2013 11:22 AM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;989030]winning two grey cups is not a particularly impressive accomplishment. There are only 8 teams in the CFL for goodness sake. Other than that, i dont know what accomplishments he has that could be considered "distinguished." He's had alot of NFL position group/OC jobs over the years but none of them are remotely impressive.

From his his wikipedia webpage:

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Trestman#CFL]Marc Trestman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]



That list is a joke - I actually laughed out loud at my desk. Trestman takes bad quarterbacks and teaches them a few parlor tricks so they look deceptively good at their pro-days. Then, NFL teams spend high draft picks on these guys and they go on to become colossal busts. Trestman = Snake Oil.

I do agree with your thought that he "deserves a shot" - as opposed to others here who seem to think the Bears made some sort of great hire. Hey, everyone deserves a shot, right? Still, the Bears fired Lovie Smith for this guy, and I view that as a major downgrade.[/quote]

Actually winning two Grey Cups is quite meaningful. Lots of people are good OC's and QB coaches but cannot make the leap to head coach. Trestman has a track record of successfully making that leap.

We should expect the Bears to lead the NFL in rouges.


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