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EARTHQUAKE2689 05-08-2014 09:57 AM

Re: Cousins Open to Trade.
 
[quote=Lotus;1070438]If Cleveland takes Rambo, we have to send them an extra pick in compensation. :cheeky:[/quote]

2021 7th rounder

skinsfan69 05-08-2014 10:10 AM

Re: Cousins Open to Trade.
 
[quote=Gary84Clark;1070430]I don't want to start an argument but Manzeil is not as fast as RG3 2012. That speed made Kyles offense work.[/quote]

I think Manziel would have no problem running it in the NFL. He's not as fast as RG3 but he's still plenty enough of a running threat where the defense would have to respect him. Like Griffin, he's simply not built like Cam Newton and doesn't protect himself. I doubt he'd last very long.

Chico23231 05-08-2014 10:20 AM

Re: Cousins Open to Trade.
 
[quote=Gary84Clark;1070430]I don't want to start an argument but Manzeil is not as fast as RG3 2012. That speed made Kyles offense work.[/quote]

I think Kyle is more the traditional passer mold preference. Manzeil doesnt fit that.

MTK 05-08-2014 10:42 AM

Re: Cousins Open to Trade.
 
[quote=Chico23231;1070449]I think Kyle is more the traditional passer mold preference. Manzeil doesnt fit that.[/quote]

Neither did RG3 but he had arguably the best rookie season ever for a QB.

I think Kyle has shown the ability to work with different types of QBs.

punch it in 05-08-2014 11:31 AM

I think it has to do with a complete team as opposed to just a qb and an OC. Whether its Kyle with Jonny Football or RG-3 or whoever. You could have an OC coaching up his dream QB and still win 3 games.

KI Skins Fan 05-08-2014 01:24 PM

Re: Cousins Open to Trade.
 
Would you do the following deal with Cleveland?

When it's time for Cleveland to pick at 1/26, if there are still one or two players that the Skins grade very highly available (for example, a player such as C.J. Mosley, Hasean Clinton-Dix, or Zach Martin), would you offer them our [B]2/3[/B] pick and Cousins in order to move up and take the player we want? That would set Cousins' value at approximately 3/25.

[B]Edit: I erroneously typed that we'd trade our 3/2 pick in my original post. I meant to type that we would trade our 2/3 pick. My apologies to all.[/B]

Lotus 05-08-2014 01:32 PM

Re: Cousins Open to Trade.
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1070478]Would you do the following deal with Cleveland?

When it's time for Cleveland to pick at 1/26, if there are still one or two players that the Skins grade very highly available (for example, a player such as C.J. Mosley, Hasean Clinton-Dix, or Zach Martin), would you offer them our 3/2 pick and Cousins in order to move up and take the player we want? That would set Cousins' value at approximately 3/25.[/quote]

So we trade out of the third round but get the #26 pick? Heck yeah I take that deal. 3/25 is a reasonable value for Cousins.

KI Skins Fan 05-08-2014 01:42 PM

Re: Cousins Open to Trade.
 
[quote=Lotus;1070479]So we trade out of the third round but get the #26 pick? Heck yeah I take that deal. 3/25 is a reasonable value for Cousins.[/quote]

Lotus, I meant to type 2/3 instead of 3/2, so it would be our second round pick. I apologize for my error.

Meks 05-08-2014 01:54 PM

Re: Cousins Open to Trade.
 
No to our second round pick plus cousins. No way. 4th plus cousins... To move up 8 spots, that's the most I'd give. F that.

CRedskinsRule 05-08-2014 03:54 PM

Re: Cousins Open to Trade.
 
Didn't know where to put this, but a nice graphic stat for those who like that kinda thing:

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnIeCIOCEAAPHTH.jpg[/IMG]

CRedskinsRule 05-08-2014 04:01 PM

Re: Cousins Open to Trade.
 
from that, 28 of the 32 teams have invested at least 1 top 3 round pick in a qb in the last 10 years. Teams that haven't:

Dallas
New Orleans
Chicago
Houston

Miami has spent picks in 4 years searching for a qb, and Cleveland 3

Us - 2

Paintrain 05-08-2014 04:07 PM

Re: Cousins Open to Trade.
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1070508]from that, 28 of the 32 teams have invested at least 1 top 3 round pick in a qb in the last 10 years. Teams that haven't:

Dallas
New Orleans
Chicago
Houston

Miami has spent picks in 4 years searching for a qb, and Cleveland 3

Us - 2[/quote]

The chart is a bit misleading (at least based on your interpretation) because the Texans traded a 2nd round pick on Schaub and Chicago traded 2 firsts for Jay Cutler. That would just leave Dallas and New Orleans.

CRedskinsRule 05-08-2014 04:12 PM

Re: Cousins Open to Trade.
 
[quote=Paintrain;1070511]The chart is a bit misleading (at least based on your interpretation) because the Texans traded a 2nd round pick on Schaub and Chicago traded 2 firsts for Jay Cutler. That would just leave Dallas and New Orleans.[/quote]

good point.

SirLK26 05-08-2014 04:17 PM

Re: Cousins Open to Trade.
 
Am I reading the chart right? Did Miami really spend a 2nd round pick on a QB 3 years in a row? LOL.

Lotus 05-08-2014 04:37 PM

Re: Cousins Open to Trade.
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1070484]Lotus, I meant to type 2/3 instead of 3/2, so it would be our second round pick. I apologize for my error.[/quote]

No wonder that was such a sweet deal. :)

Then I change my answer to, "depends who is still on the board." If some truly elite talent managed to fall to #26, then I might still make that deal.


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