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[quote=SmootSmack;903681]Curtis Painter is like Peyton Manning compared to Caleb Hanie...well maybe not, but not far off

Broncos are also bringing in Dennis Dixon in for a visit though[/quote]

Smoot, what do you make of this? Hear any word?


@incarceratedbob is breaking a few of these. He's normally good for some stuff.
[quote]10:33PMest:3/25/12:**UPDATED NFL RUMORS**Source: NE Patriots & Chicago Bears have been discussing a blockbuster deal that would land Forte in New England (Pats offering 2ndRd & 4thRd pick) #IBN sources are saying that this deal has picked up major steam the past 48Hours and something could pop at anytime.. Source is stating, Pats view Forte as the last piece to a major offensive juggernaut, only thing that may stop this deal from happening is the Bears insisting on another high pick this year or next year. My source states this will be worked out sooner or later and we could very well see Forte running for Brady & the "Hoodie" soon...

10:15PMest:3/25/12:**UPDATED NFL RUMORS**Source: St Louis Rams are getting more involved in contract negotiations with Mike Wallace -- Wallace still wants big money but the Rams feel he will come down as draft approaches. STL is ready to pounce when his price drops, the big play WR could still end up in Pittsburgh as they have the right 2match any contract offer... (Broncos & Pats still with limited interest)[/quote]

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[quote=NC_Skins;903722]Smoot, what do you make of this? Hear any word?


@incarceratedbob is breaking a few of these. He's normally good for some stuff.[/quote]

If Chicago doesn't get a first rounder for Forte, they are f*cking idiots.

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For St. Louis sake Mike Wallace isn't worth the number 6 pick.

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;903727]If Chicago doesn't get a first rounder for Forte, they are f*cking idiots.[/QUOTE]



Especially from a team that has 2 first rounders

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;903733]Especially from a team that has 2 first rounders[/quote]

Exactly! I swear, sometimes teams seem to forget that the f*cking Pats are perennial contenders, yet teams make these ridiculously one-sided deals with them that gives them players for nothing (Welker) or picks (the Seymour trade).

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[quote=Ruhskins;903736]Exactly! I swear, sometimes teams seem to forget that the f*cking Pats are perennial contenders, yet teams make these ridiculously one-sided deals with them that gives them players for nothing (Welker) or picks (the Seymour trade).[/quote]

Miami got a 2nd rounder for Welker when they got him for free basically. Only team that hands the Pats one sided deals are the Raiders.

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[quote=NC_Skins;903737]Miami got a 2nd rounder for Welker when they got him for free basically. Only team that hands the Pats one sided deals are the Raiders.[/quote]

And the Josh McDaniels' led Broncos.

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[quote=Ruhskins;903738]And the Josh McDaniels' led Broncos.[/quote]

They had no trades with the Pats that I know of. The Pats got a 2nd rounder from the Chiefs for Cassell.

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[quote=NC_Skins;903740]They had no trades with the Pats that I know of. The Pats got a 2nd rounder from the Chiefs for Cassell.[/quote]

I thought the McDaniels traded up with the Pats to get Tebow?

Never mind, it was Baltimore.

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[quote=NC_Skins;903722]Smoot, what do you make of this? Hear any word?


@incarceratedbob is breaking a few of these. He's normally good for some stuff.[/quote]

No idea. Sometimes, because I spend just about every working day of my life surrounded by sports news and info, I like to just "get away from it all." So for the past three days-other than stumbling across the Dennis Dixon news and Sean Payton potentially to Fox Sports-I have been totally out of the loop, on purpose. Just needed some time away from sports for a minute. A few more days and I'll get back in it. Right now though, I'm all about old school re-runs on Antenna TV

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[quote=SmootSmack;903762]No idea. Sometimes, because I spend just about every working day of my life surrounded by sports news and info, I like to just "get away from it all." So for the past three days-other than stumbling across the Dennis Dixon news and Sean Payton potentially to Fox Sports-I have been totally out of the loop, on purpose. Just needed some time away from sports for a minute. A few more days and I'll get back in it. Right now though, I'm all about old school re-runs on Antenna TV[/quote]

What you talkin' bout, SmootSmack?

Actually, that sounds DYN-O-MITE!

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[quote=SmootSmack;903762]No idea. Sometimes, because I spend just about every working day of my life surrounded by sports news and info, I like to just "get away from it all." So for the past three days-other than stumbling across the Dennis Dixon news and Sean Payton potentially to Fox Sports-I have been totally out of the loop, on purpose. Just needed some time away from sports for a minute. A few more days and I'll get back in it. Right now though, I'm all about old school re-runs on Antenna TV[/quote]

Don't blame you. Enjoy that time off. ;)

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[quote=NC_Skins;903737]Miami got a 2nd rounder for Welker when they got him for free basically. Only team that hands the Pats one sided deals are the Raiders.[/quote]

miami got a 3rd rounder, which is rediculous. I'd rather have 3+ seasons of 1000+ yards and 100+ catches than a 3rd round pick. regardless of what miami paid to get him, they're still on the stupid side of that trade.

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[quote=That Guy;903857]miami got a 3rd rounder, which is rediculous. I'd rather have 3+ seasons of 1000+ yards and 100+ catches than a 3rd round pick. regardless of what miami paid to get him, they're still on the stupid side of that trade.[/quote]

Without Tom I don't know if Welker would be have been this good.

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[quote=That Guy;903857]miami got a 3rd rounder, which is rediculous. I'd rather have 3+ seasons of 1000+ yards and 100+ catches than a 3rd round pick. regardless of what miami paid to get him, they're still on the stupid side of that trade.[/quote]

Actually, they got a 2nd rounder AND 7th round selection for Welker from the Pats.

[url=http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2007/10/17/patriots_pounced_fast_to_grab_welker/]How Patriots grabbed wide receiver Wes Welker from Dolphins - The Boston Globe[/url]

[quote]The Dolphins were amenable, shipping Welker to the Patriots for second- and seventh-round draft choices. [/quote]


[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/5941/wes-welker]Wes Welker Stats - New England Patriots - ESPN[/url]

At the time of the trade, Miami made out like a bandit.

Look at his numbers in Miami the two years.

2005-----29 recs 434yards
2006-----67recs 687 yards

Getting a 2nd and 7th rounder for a guy that only produced those kinds of stats is a work of genius really. Especially for a undrafted free agent.

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Smart teams make system specific personnel moves not based on the players previous production with their former team.
Smart teams make value based decisions based on thier projection for the player in their system for his defined role.

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So back to current stuff, the Rams sign Steve Smith 2.0.

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[quote=Ruhskins;903890]So back to current stuff, the Rams sign Steve Smith 2.0.[/quote]

I thought he showed great promise back in the day in New York, when he had that 100 catch season, but ever since he got injured it appears he hasn't been the same. I thought Philly was getting a steal this time last year, and one year later he's with the Rams. I guess this is a low risk/high reward scenario for the Rams.

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[quote=NC_Skins;903878]Actually, they got a 2nd rounder AND 7th round selection for Welker from the Pats.

[URL="http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2007/10/17/patriots_pounced_fast_to_grab_welker/"]How Patriots grabbed wide receiver Wes Welker from Dolphins - The Boston Globe[/URL]




[URL="http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/5941/wes-welker"]Wes Welker Stats - New England Patriots - ESPN[/URL]

At the time of the trade, Miami made out like a bandit.

Look at his numbers in Miami the two years.

2005-----29 recs 434yards
2006-----67recs 687 yards

Getting a 2nd and 7th rounder for a guy that only produced those kinds of stats is a work of genius really. Especially for a undrafted free agent.[/quote]

if you saw him play, you knew he was better than those stats and miami wasn't using him right. I think I said it was a steal at the time. Miami's offense wasn't exactly amazing back then (not that it's all that much better now).

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[quote=30gut;903882]Smart teams make system specific personnel moves not based on the players previous production with their former team.
Smart teams make value based decisions based on thier projection for the player in their system for his defined role.[/quote]

This is why most of the players that Vinny Cerratto signed through free agency didn't work out because of this very reason. While Cerratto did have some talent at scouting and selecting young players in the draft at times, his eye for free agent talent was extremely poor because he only saw how that particular player performed in his initial system and not how that player WOULD perform for us. This why Adam Archuletta, Brandon Lloyd, and so many others that he signed through free agency didn't turn out well.

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[B][SIZE="4"]Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter

San Francisco 49ers reached agreement with former Giants running back Brandon Jacobs.[/SIZE][/B]

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;904174]This is why most of the players that Vinny Cerratto signed through free agency didn't work out because of this very reason. While Cerratto did have some talent at scouting and selecting young players in the draft at times, his eye for free agent talent was extremely poor because he only saw how that particular player performed in his initial system and not how that player WOULD perform for us. This why Adam Archuletta, Brandon Lloyd, and so many others that he signed through free agency didn't turn out well.[/quote]

I would say that Lloyd didn't work out because of his attitude, not scheme fit.

But you are spot on about Arch Deluxe.

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[quote=NC_Skins;904618][B][SIZE="4"]Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter

San Francisco 49ers reached agreement with former Giants running back Brandon Jacobs.[/SIZE][/B][/quote]

Thats a really good pickup for San Fran. Good Fit. 49ers gonna be loaded next year.

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So the 49ers have Moss, Manningham, and Jacobs. Mmkay.

The Giants have lost two of three named above.

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[url=http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2012/3/28/2908893/torry-holt-retire-st-louis-rams]Torry Holt To Retire As A St. Louis Ram - SBNation.com[/url]

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;904716][url=http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2012/3/28/2908893/torry-holt-retire-st-louis-rams]Torry Holt To Retire As A St. Louis Ram - SBNation.com[/url][/QUOTE]

I thought he already was

Devin Thomas has a new team. Chicago.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;904881]Devin Thomas has a new team. Chicago.[/quote]

Awesome, best ST player EVER! :D

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;904886]Awesome, best ST player EVER! [/QUOTE]



Which is exactly what you want from your 2nd round pick.

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Of course...

Which brings me to an interesting question... which player has the most Super Bowl rings from different teams?

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Well, thank you Wikipedia, very interesting:

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_ring#Most_Super_Bowl_rings]Super Bowl ring - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;904888]Of course...



Which brings me to an interesting question... which player has the most Super Bowl rings from different teams?[/QUOTE]



Charles Haley?

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As a player, he is up there. I forgot to account for team executives and all that randomness.

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damn megatron gonna be all up in yo ass this year.

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^ Look who it is!

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your biggest nightmare bitch!

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*youre

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[QUOTE=PWNED;904919]your biggest nightmare bitch![/QUOTE]



Yeah..................I seriously doubt that, but ok.

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you know you missed me. :biggthump

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[QUOTE=PWNED;904929]you know you missed me. [/QUOTE]



Yeah, so where the hell have you been?