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[quote=Chico23231;1095806]Moses and Long at oline were both seen a project picks where it might take several years. I dont see Moses as a surprise...actually thought overall he was better than expected yesterday.[/quote]

yeah i didnt think moses was horrible horrible. he was actually better than i expected considering who he is at this early stage and who he was going up against.

Porter and lauvau - both were questionable signings at the time. Porter is by far our highest paid secondary player. browns fans were really surprised a team pounced on lauvau and were happy he was gone ... we see why. he is just a body out there. like many have said. le rib or gettis or mo hurt could just be a guy out there for a lot less money ... that could have been used to sign Ward!

missing out on ward - i admittedly dint know much about his game but he seemed like the perfect guy to add at the time .. not a high high priced guy (signed for 5 mil per?) like Bryd (50+ mil?) but was young, plays well and was let go bc of salary crunch not performance. Ward was the smart man's solution to FS ... and we totally whiffed.

clark - we dangled a basically vet min 1 yr contract to clark who left it on the table for weeks until he saw that he either signed with us or retired for lack of league interest. Clark is what he is. a player that quite frankly, no one else wanted. hopefully he is a valuable contributing member to our young players from Monday to Saturday.

How is that RT from the bucs that the raiders signed panning out? i forgot his name but was disappointed we didnt add him to RT for the next 2 years. He was a LT for the Bucs so he would have been perfect to slide over to LT now that Trent is hurt ...

Re: Jay Gruden you are our only hope
 

[quote=sevier2;1095738]I believe in Gruden. He's sitting in a situation he never would have imagined when signing on here and he's handling it well, as much as people don't believe.

He's exactly what the Redskins as a franchise need.

He's not going to let a QB, who's been in the league less than 3 years, run his team.

He's not going to allow anybody who misses team meetings (Amerson) to play on Sunday. Even if we're hurting at that position.

He's also not guaranteeing anybody a job because they're starters this year. Each and every player on this roster is going to EARN their spot. (Seattle anybody??)

We finally have a coach who is going to set the tone and get his players to respect and buy in to HIM. This is a team sport and he's not going to allow any players to rise above that fact.

Anybody who wants to get rid of Gruden needs to realize that this is what we've done for the past 15 years and where are we? We FINALLY have a competent coach who can motivate (the right) players. Getting rid of him starts yet ANOTHER rebuild which we don't need.

We need consistency and cohesiveness. Gruden can establish that.[/quote]

Well said.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1095760]I see you conveniently overlooked the idea of bringing in Colt. And Gruden could certainly have used a TE or RB to help out Moses. Yet he did neither. I'm not supporting the way RGIII has been playing but [U]this particular game was winnable[/U] and Gruden did not do enough to win it. A coach should always try to win, right? Right?[/quote]

No, I didn't conveniently overlook the idea of bringing in Colt. I'm just simply looking at this from a level head. The Redskins were still in a position to win the ball game, and RGIII was given a chance to respond. With all the crap that went on in the media prior to the game, this was the best thing for Gruden to do - and that's to stick with Griffin and give him a chance to play through his struggles. Griffin had a golden chance to redeem himself in the eyes of the fans and his coaching staff. He didn't get the job done. Let's be realistic. The Redskins' season was over when they lost to Tampa Bay. You spend several #1 picks on a quarterback, you expect him to win you ball games in the situation the 'skins were in yesterday. Gruden needed to know if Griffin could pull this game out. He didn't.

I'm not even going to address the idea of leaving a back or TE in to block. Many of those sacks Griffin took were because he held onto the ball too long. There were receivers open. Griffin just can't react quick enough. His speed in 2012 covered up a lot of his mistakes. He no longer has that speed, so he has less room for error.

Re: Jay Gruden you are our only hope
 

[quote=sevier2;1095738]I believe in Gruden. He's sitting in a situation he never would have imagined when signing on here and he's handling it well, as much as people don't believe.

He's exactly what the Redskins as a franchise need.

He's not going to let a QB, who's been in the league less than 3 years, run his team.

He's not going to allow anybody who misses team meetings (Amerson) to play on Sunday. Even if we're hurting at that position.

He's also not guaranteeing anybody a job because they're starters this year. Each and every player on this roster is going to EARN their spot. (Seattle anybody??)

We finally have a coach who is going to set the tone and get his players to respect and buy in to HIM. This is a team sport and he's not going to allow any players to rise above that fact.

Anybody who wants to get rid of Gruden needs to realize that this is what we've done for the past 15 years and where are we? We FINALLY have a competent coach who can motivate (the right) players. Getting rid of him starts yet ANOTHER rebuild which we don't need.

We need consistency and cohesiveness. Gruden can establish that.[/quote]

Great post. On the money.

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Gruden can't run the team, so saying he's not going to let RG3 run the team begs the question

Who will run it?

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1095739]When he put Colt Mc Coy in, he will seal his own fate.[/quote]

So ... it really isn't about wins for you. Colt McKoy, 2-0 as a Skins starter.

[quote][B]The Redskins are 3-17 in [Griffin's] last 20 full games played [/B]and he's not the same explosive player he was in 2012. He looked that way in the spring; but now he doesn't make defenders miss like he once did.[/quote]

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/13233/second-thoughts-redskins-niners]Second thoughts: Washington Redskins-San Francisco 49ers, Week 12 - ESPN[/url]

I knew it was unimpressive, but I just blanked out the math b/c I like the guy so much. All his fault? No. But as G84C so accurately pointed out in his criticism of KC, it's a bottom line league and RGIII's bottom line these last 20 games is 3-17.

3-17. Let that sink in for a moment.

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I'm most annoyed that Griffin's family had special privileges at Redskin's Park until this past week or so that other players families did not - WTF!!! I thought that Bruce Allen was brought in to help change the star system culture around here. If you give the so called star special perks, and he plays like Griffin has the last two years, it cannot have anything but negative ramifications in the locker room. There is a reason his teammates didn't nominate him captain - it's clear that he isn't held in the same esteem as he was by his own locker room.

Re: Jay Gruden you are our only hope
 

[quote=SouperMeister;1095903]I'm most annoyed that Griffin's family had special privileges at Redskin's Park until this past week or so that other players families did not - WTF!!! I thought that Bruce Allen was brought in to help change the star system culture around here. If you give the so called star special perks, and he plays like Griffin has the last two years, it cannot have anything but negative ramifications in the locker room. There is a reason his teammates didn't nominate him captain - it's clear that he isn't held in the same esteem as he was by his own locker room.[/quote]

The danny boy's boy doing. No wonder this organization is ran so poorly

Re: Jay Gruden you are our only hope
 

[quote=SouperMeister;1095903]I'm most annoyed that Griffin's family had special privileges at Redskin's Park until this past week or so that other players families did not - WTF!!! I thought that Bruce Allen was brought in to help change the star system culture around here. If you give the so called star special perks, and he plays like Griffin has the last two years, it cannot have anything but negative ramifications in the locker room. There is a reason his teammates didn't nominate him captain - it's clear that he isn't held in the same esteem as he was by his own locker room.[/quote]

I couldn't agree more. I fear Bruce has lost his spine and become somewhat of a yes man.

Re: Jay Gruden you are our only hope
 

[quote=SouperMeister;1095903]I'm most annoyed that Griffin's family had special privileges at Redskin's Park until this past week or so that other players families did not - WTF!!! I thought that Bruce Allen was brought in to help change the star system culture around here. If you give the so called star special perks, and he plays like Griffin has the last two years, it cannot have anything but negative ramifications in the locker room. There is a reason his teammates didn't nominate him captain - it's clear that he isn't held in the same esteem as he was by his own locker room.[/quote]

Outrageous but true....the Redskins are running a circus!

Re: Jay Gruden you are our only hope
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;1095868]So ... it really isn't about wins for you. Colt McKoy, 2-0 as a Skins starter.



[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/13233/second-thoughts-redskins-niners]Second thoughts: Washington Redskins-San Francisco 49ers, Week 12 - ESPN[/url]

I knew it was unimpressive, but I just blanked out the math b/c I like the guy so much. All his fault? No. But as G84C so accurately pointed out in his criticism of KC, it's a bottom line league and RGIII's bottom line these last 20 games is 3-17.

3-17. Let that sink in for a moment.[/quote]






Colt McCoy is Colt McCoy....go ahead and try it.

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... and, at this point, what is RGIII?

Colt is a mediocre QB who should be a back-up. The fact that he is the best QB on the roster right speaks volumes about the Skins problems.

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RG3 has two touchdown passes in 5 games. If he had played all 16 games he would end up with 6-7 td passes this year. That is pathetic.

Watching him and stats confirm how bad he is.

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I'm not sure where those rumors of special privileges for Griffin's family started, but they're just not true

Re: Jay Gruden you are our only hope
 

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;1095943]I'm not sure where those rumors of special privileges for Griffin's family started, but they're just not true[/QUOTE]


This coming from a guy who has special privileges on the Warpath? Lol.
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Seriously though I was surprised reading this last night and just couldnt see it? How supposedly were they treated better than other families? Better food? Better parking? Allowed to smoke some of Snyders special stash?


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