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[quote=los panda;906882]griffin is the oil to fry the wings after grossman baked them in his boring oven. griff makes them crispy and desirable[/quote]

That sh!ts gonna be stupid overcooked if you force the "same wings" assumption. I guess Garcon and Morgan are spring chickens in this instance, maybe that's why they look so appetizing to certain fans ;)

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i make buffalo wings for a living. bake before fry is the way

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[quote=Paintrain;906887][B]The Garçon contract is big, no doubt, but they expect big things from him but Morgan's contract (reportedly) is written in such a way they can get out of it after this season with minimal cap damage. I'd call him more of Hankerson insurance than a replacement or someone expected to provide the expected impact of Hankerson.[/B]

Ideally, I think Shanny sees Garçon over the top and taking crossing routes for big gains, Hankerson as the chain mover across the middle of the field and a red zone target & Morgan in the Gaffney role of 3rd down receiver or can beat an overmatched corner/safety. I don't think there's much expectation for Moss or Gaffney in the plans going forward. If we got Royal, I'm pretty sure Moss would have been cut or would be a June 1 cut because he would become our slot WR.[/quote]

I can mostly agree w/ the first paragraph. As to the rest, you and I agree this is what Mike/Kyle are grasping for...the difference is I don't believe those three players (Garcon, Hankerson and Morgan) are likely to develop into that overnight if ever, and I hope this time around Mike swallows the pride pill and rethinks the starters so Griffin benefits from better consistency and overall results as a rookie QB w/ the weight of the world on his shoulders.

...i.e. I anticipate another ego vs. practicality/team/results situation, and I'm hopeful w/ the gravity of the decision on his mind Mike chooses Griffin and some combo of Gaffney, Moss, Davis/Cooley and some rotation/combo of Garcon, Hankerson or Morgan.

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Something tells me that Fred Davis will be the Redskins most productive receiver in 2012. Without the suspension at season's end, he definitely would have had over 1,000 yards and would have made the pro bowl. If he duplicates half of what he did last year, Fred Davis will be an all pro. I'm expecting huge things from Pierre Garcon but I counting on Leonard Hankerson to be RG3's go to guy. I also expect Gaffney and Moss to be in the mix as well. I don't know how much Chris Cooley and Josh Morgan figures into the offensive passing game, but something tells me they will have their moments during the season.

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[quote=Paintrain;906866]Is Moss able to turn back the clock as well?
[/quote]We're all intitled to our opinions.
You attribute Moss decline in production last year to age, I attribute it to injury.

[quote]How did his hand injury last year prevent him from gaining YAC and separation from CB and LB?[/quote]
Does a broken hand's effect on YAC really need to be explained?
Obviously a WR with a broken hand is gonna be effected because his ability to catch the football is effected.
YAC is about catching the ball [I][B]then[/B][/I] making a move.
A WR that is gingerly catching the ball is wasting valuable miliseconds that could be used making a move.

BTW-Its a spurious question anyway because it implies that Moss decline in YAC is a sign of age/decline.
It would be like me making some spurious claim based on Garcon's drop in YAC from 6.1 in 2009 to 2010 to 4.0.
YAC varries from year to year and would you have guessed that Moss and Garcon have the same career YPC.

[quote]....We need to realize that Moss isn't a 28 year old burner anymore. He's more likely (even if healthy) to be a 3rd receiver than one of the top 2 WR on the team[/quote]Moss isn't as fast as he used to be, but speed doesn't vanish.
Its not like Moss has gone from a 4.3 to a 4.7.
But that is besides the point anyway because even in Moss very productive 2010 season he more as slot WR and a move around guy.
Moss isn't being counted on as an 'explosive' WR but that doesn't mean that he can't be a productive WR.
And lets not forget that scheme knowledge is going to be very important with a rookie QB and 2 WRs new to the scheme.

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[QUOTE=REDSKINS4ever;906859]Jabar Gaffney might not be a #1 receiver, but at times he played like it last year. The guy was money. I've always been a fan of Gaffney. Look for Gaffney to be open underneath all season long while Garcon and Moss go deep.[/QUOTE]



Gaffney also didn't have Fred Davis the last 4 games so who were we gonna throw to? He's been a Redskin for 1 season, has never had a 1,000 yard season, has been in the league since 2002, is 31 years old, and we have 4 WRs on the roster better than him. I'm including Hankerson before he got hurt was looking good and I see breakout year for him. Gaffney is just another guy. A dime a dozen kind of WR. Name another team Gaffney would start for. **Kat Williams voice: Don't worry I'll wait"**

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I think they'll probably keep 7 "wide recievers" with one being a return specialist, but I would expect Banks to get competition for his position. I just don't think that competition is on the roster right now, so I'm going to pretend like he's a roster lock.

'Y' receivers:
1. Fred Davis
2. Logan Paulsen

'H' Recievers
1. Chris Cooley
2. Darrel Young

'X' recievers:
1. Pierre Garcon (Santana Moss last year)
2. Santana Moss (Donte Stallworth last year)
3. Aldrick Robinson
4. Terrence Austin

Z receivers
1. Josh Morgan
2. Leonard Hankerson
3. Anthony Armstrong
4. Niles Paul (has played 'Y', 'F', and 'H')

F ("slot") recievers <Usally replaces the H in the offense (3 WR package)>
1. Santana Moss
2. Terrence Austin (also David Anderson last year)
3. Niles Paul

I studied Kyle's personnel groupings for a couple hours yesterday, and decided that there's a pretty good chance Moss makes the roster. I think he was toast if Eddie Royal had been signed, so obviously, he's hardly a lock to make a roster now, but he's pretty far ahead of Niles Paul, who would be forced into 3 WR duty with the roster as currently constructed.

The Redskins don't use a slot receiver in their offense. The position that plays the highest total number of snaps out of the slot is the 'Z', but the true slot receiver in the offense is Fred Davis. The Redskins don't use Fred Davis like a traditional tight end too often, at least my sense is that they don't overuse him.

They probably don't use Cooley enough, as when they try to get the H involved in the passing game in anything put the bootleg game, it's pretty forced.

If you believe reports, this Morgan vs. Hankerson thing as the critical Z receiver in our offense isn't going to be decided in camp. They'll split starts (not unlike Thomas and Kelly when they were here).

Hankerson, Garcon, and Morgan are locks. Then they need three reserves, and the one that's going to get the LEAST amount of playing time is the third Z. So that's either Niles Paul or Anthony Armstrong, they won't be drafting competition at this position. So the decision (Paul v Armstrong) likely comes down to special teams ability and Armstrong's straight line speed (making him a tough matchup in the passing game) against Paul's superior blocking (making him an impossible matchup in the rushing game).

Then the Redskins will need quality depth at the 'X' position. They can keep Moss, who adds the benefit of having experience at the F position. Or they can ask Gaffney to learn a new position/take on multiple new roles. Knowing the cap situation, it's far more likely that Moss is kept. Gaffney could be a draft-day trade to any team that loses out on the top draft WRs. Try to pick up a day 3 pick or something.

They could keep both Moss and Gaffney, but I don't understand why they would. Gaffney's role from last year has already been flat out replaced, and Moss has already been replaced in the starting lineup. There's still currently a spot for Moss in 3 WR sets and the added bonus to keeping Moss is that if Garcon ever misses time, they can just revert to the 2011 playbook. Gaffney's role has already been given away, so they have to decide between giving offseason reps to a veteran in the last year of his contract learning a new position, or getting rid of him.

Considering he figures to return something in a trade, I would predict he's gone before May 1. The Redskins will certainly trade Moss if they can get a pick for him, but his contract is going to be tough for anyone to take on, so he'll probably play out this season (unless replaced in the draft) and they we'll go from there.

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68 pages....some of you guys need to go outside and play.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;907115]68 pages....some of you guys need to go outside and play.[/quote]
now that was funny :lol:

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;907106]Gaffney also didn't have Fred Davis the last 4 games so who were we gonna throw to? He's been a Redskin for 1 season, has never had a 1,000 yard season, has been in the league since 2002, is 31 years old, and we have 4 WRs on the roster better than him. I'm including Hankerson before he got hurt was looking good and I see breakout year for him. Gaffney is just another guy. A dime a dozen kind of WR. Name another team Gaffney would start for. **Kat Williams voice: Don't worry I'll wait"**[/quote]

You're right. Hankerson and Garcon are better than Gaffney. But the one thing Gaffney brings to the table is veteran experience. He might just be another receiver as you put it, but the guy has always been underrated. Jabar Gaffney isn't the best WR int he NFL by far, but when he's underestimated, he shows up to play.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;907118]You're right. Hankerson and Garcon are better than Gaffney. But the one thing Gaffney brings to the table is veteran experience. He might just be another receiver as you put it, but the guy has always been underrated. Jabar Gaffney isn't the best WR int he NFL by far, but when he's underestimated, he shows up to play.[/quote]

How is what you said any different than what Moss brings to the table?

Moss is smaller but faster, Gaffney is bigger but stronger. Moss has given us several 1000+ yard seasons. Gaffney's given us....... none.

That's about where the differences end. Gaffney is just as expendable as Moss (or more so).

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;907106]Gaffney also didn't have Fred Davis the last 4 games so who were we gonna throw to? He's been a Redskin for 1 season, has never had a 1,000 yard season, has been in the league since 2002, is 31 years old, and we have 4 WRs on the roster better than him. I'm including Hankerson before he got hurt was looking good and I see breakout year for him. Gaffney is just another guy. A dime a dozen kind of WR. Name another team Gaffney would start for. [B]**Kat Williams voice: Don't worry I'll wait"**[/B][/quote]

You mean A Pimp Named Slickback?

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[quote=DynamiteRave;907124]You mean A Pimp Named Slickback?[/quote]

ahahahhaha

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[QUOTE=REDSKINS4ever;907118]You're right. Hankerson and Garcon are better than Gaffney. But the one thing Gaffney brings to the table is veteran experience. He might just be another receiver as you put it, but the guy has always been underrated. Jabar Gaffney isn't the best WR int he NFL by far, but when he's underestimated, he shows up to play.[/QUOTE]



Garcon > Gaffney
Hankerson > Gaffney
Morgan > Gaffney
Moss > Gaffney

So I have 4 players of the same position and I'm supposed to keep you for veteran experience? Hell no. Moss brings that same veteran experience and is a better player. Sorry Gaffney you're the odd man out. Especially if we draft a WR.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;907123]How is what you said any different than what Moss brings to the table?

Moss is smaller but faster, Gaffney is bigger but stronger. Moss has given us several 1000+ yard seasons. Gaffney's given us....... none.

That's about where the differences end. Gaffney is just as expendable as Moss (or more so).[/quote]

I didn't mention Moss because we are so familiar with him and what he's done over the years. Gaffney just ended up being our most productive receiver last season. You have to give him credit for that.

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If Fred Davis doesn't get suspended he's easily the most productive pass catcher.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;907149
]Garcon > Gaffney
Hankerson > Gaffney
Morgan > Gaffney
Moss > Gaffney

So I have 4 players of the same position and I'm supposed to keep you for veteran experience? Hell no. Moss brings that same veteran experience and is a better player. Sorry Gaffney you're the odd man out. Especially if we draft a WR.[/quote]

Garcon and Gaffney had similar statistics by the end of last season. Both caught a lot of passes and both had just under 1,000 yards receiving. Hankerson has talent and has potential, but we're still basing him off of what he did in college. He's still unproven in the NFL. Morgan is a great fill in receiver and we are already familiar with Santana Moss. Gaffney won't be the odd man out when it comes to roster cuts. Anthony Armstrong will likely be released by preseason's end.

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[QUOTE=REDSKINS4ever;907155]Garcon and Gaffney had similar statistics by the end of last season. Both caught a lot of passes and both had just under 1,000 yards receiving. Hankerson has talent and has potential, but we're still basing him off of what he did in college. He's still unproven in the NFL. Morgan is a great fill in receiver and we are already familiar with Santana Moss. Gaffney won't be the odd man out when it comes to roster cuts. Anthony Armstrong will likely be released by preseason's end.[/QUOTE]



Armstrong gone, Anderson gone, Banks gone, Austin gone, Gaffney gone,

Hankerson/Garcon/Morgan/Moss/Paul/Draft pick or Robinson

Gaffney played one year for us and had a career season. Congrats to him, if we didn't feel we needed an upgrade we wouldn't have gotten two and tried for a 3rd. Bye bye Gaffney. It's been real, it's been fun but it hasn't been real fun.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;907157]Armstrong gone, Anderson gone, Banks gone, Austin gone, Gaffney gone,

Hankerson/Garcon/Morgan/Moss/Paul/Draft pick or Robinson

Gaffney played one year for us and had a career season. Congrats to him, if we didn't feel we needed an upgrade we wouldn't have gotten two and tried for a 3rd. Bye bye Gaffney. It's been real, it's been fun but it hasn't been real fun.[/quote]

If Aldrick Robinson does attain a roster spot and Gaffney is released that will really surprise me. The most productive receiver from the previous season getting the ax and a practice squad player all last year surviving the final cut? Seems doubtful but we'll just have to wait and see, won't we?

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;907149]Garcon > Gaffney
Hankerson > Gaffney
Morgan > Gaffney
Moss > Gaffney

So I have 4 players of the same position and I'm supposed to keep you for veteran experience? Hell no. Moss brings that same veteran experience and is a better player. Sorry Gaffney you're the odd man out. Especially if we draft a WR.[/quote]I'll say this: Kyle has a tendency to play his favored WR at the Z in base personnel, so that he's front side and able to run route combinations with the TE and off-set FB. Moss played the Z in base personnel in 2010, while Armstrong, Galloway, and Roydell Williams shared the X. Moss was targeted more than 140 times in 2010.

In 2011, Gaffney played the Z. That was right from the first game. There was no obvious reason to move Moss out of the role he played in 2010 unless they were trying to improve offensive efficiency. And if they were trying to improve offensive efficiency, then they obviously decided that the ball should go to Gaffney more in run-oriented downs than to Moss.

What we're effectively trying to replace here is the role that Donte Stallworth played last season. If the Redskins choose to cut Moss and switch Gaffney's position and make Gaffney the "slot" guy next year (despite no prior usage in that role in his career), there would be precedent for them doing that, having done the same thing with Moss a year ago. I think it's an easier move for Moss to simply sit more and play the role he did last year, when applicable.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;907158]If Aldrick Robinson does attain a roster spot and Gaffney is released that will really surprise me. The most productive receiver from the previous season getting the ax and a practice squad player all last year surviving the final cut? Seems doubtful but we'll just have to wait and see, won't we?[/quote]Think about it in terms of the role though. You have to replace Donte Stallworth and his 22/309/2 line. Your options are a pair of declining players who are well established in this league (at least as established as Stallworth was last year, probably more, certainly more with this franchise), or a younger draft pick of the team from 2011. If the performances in OTA's and Training Camp and Preseason were close, which one should the team pick? That's the question.

I mean if you don't think Robinson is capable of 22/309/2, then I don't think you should keep him.

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PFF does a good breakdown of Tana in 2010 just adds some persepctive to the discussion Moss played 40% of his snaps from the slot:

[url=http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/05/17/2010-snap-breakdown-santana-moss/]2010 Snap Breakdown - Santana Moss | ProFootballFocus.com[/url]

For base personelle I could definetely see Moss at X and Garcon at Z.
Like GT said Moss did play a lot of X in base last year and under Zorn Moss was the X.
If Garcon is the the No.1 option and featured Z receiver and there is an open competition at the X I put my money on Tana.

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I expect Hankerson and Garcon to be the two starters at the beginning of the season unless the coaches feel confident with starting Gaffney and Garcon. Moss will definitely be the slot receiver. If Moss doesn't start at the end of the season it wouldn't surprise me. But I still say he'll be a big part of the passing game. Garcon will start all season and Hankerson will eventually start opposite Garcon and Gaffney will fall 4th on the depth chart. Josh Morgan will of course be featured in certain situations. The Redskins have too much talent at receiver not to use 4 and 5 WR sets on 2nd and long and 3rd and long situations. With Cooley coming back and with Fred Davis always open, look for this passing game to be potent.

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[quote=30gut;907169]PFF does a good breakdown of Tana in 2010 just adds some persepctive to the discussion Moss played 40% of his snaps from the slot:

[url=http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/05/17/2010-snap-breakdown-santana-moss/]2010 Snap Breakdown - Santana Moss | ProFootballFocus.com[/url]

For base personelle I could definetely see Moss at X and Garcon at Z.
Like GT said Moss did play a lot of X in base last year and under Zorn Moss was the X.
If Garcon is the the No.1 option and featured Z receiver and there is an open competition at the X I put my money on Tana.[/quote]They have apparently already decided that Garcon will play the X. There will not be competition at that position.

Hankerson and Morgan are to fight it out at Z. That would imply that the other would play in 3 WR sets, but that's not necessarily a conclusion. They could keep Moss as the backup X and use him in their 3 WR package in the same role he was already in.

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I'd love nothing more than for Moss to prove me wrong and show he's still got something left in his legs and can be a slot weapon. That being said, I won't be heartbroken if we draft a Joe Adams, Ryan Broyles or Devon Wylie in the 4th or 5th round to become a slot weapon. I can see a vastly different WR group in 2013 than we did in 2011 with Moss, Gaffney, Armstrong, Austin and Banks no longer on the roster.

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I'll be surprised if Hankerson or Morgan starts. One of my guys in the office is a longtime Niners fan and doesn't think Morgan is a starting-caliber WR, as in SanFran was more than happy to see him go. Hankerson's injury is a big-time question mark. If Garcon isn't at Z then Gaffney or even Moss will likely be the opening day starter.

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[quote=The Goat;907585]I'll be surprised if Hankerson or Morgan starts. One of my guys in the office is a longtime Niners fan and doesn't think Morgan is a starting-caliber WR, as in SanFran was more than happy to see him go. Hankerson's injury is a big-time question mark. If Garcon isn't at Z then Gaffney or even Moss will likely be the opening day starter.[/quote]

That is interesting because I have heard that Mike Shanahan actually felt as though Josh Morgan was the steal out of the two (and could potentially contribute more in the offense). I wish I could provide a link, but I distinctly remember reading that.

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[quote=GTripp0012;907576]They have apparently already decided that Garcon will play the X. There will not be competition at that position.

Hankerson and Morgan are to fight it out at Z. That would imply that the other would play in 3 WR sets, but that's not necessarily a conclusion. They could keep Moss as the backup X and use him in their 3 WR package in the same role he was already in.[/quote]Okay I thought Garcon was gonna be the Z well..If Garcon is the the No.1 option and featured X receiver and there is an open competition at the Z I put my money on Tana.

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[quote=mbedner3420;907590]That is interesting because I have heard that Mike Shanahan actually felt as though Josh Morgan was the steal out of the two (and could potentially contribute more in the offense). I wish I could provide a link, but I distinctly remember reading that.[/quote]

That kind of makes Mike look stupid considering we blew most our FA wad on Garcon. But anyway like folks around here remind me it's all coach speak...

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[quote=30gut;907617]Okay I thought Garcon was gonna be the Z well..If Garcon is the the No.1 option and featured X receiver and there is an open competition at the Z I put my money on Tana.[/quote]I could see that if Hankerson never gets healthy, and Moss ends up taking his reps in a fair competition with Morgan.

I would still bet on Morgan though. It's ultimately going to be Kyle's decision, but Mike's a big fan of Morgan.

If Hankerson is healthy and ready to go through OTA's, it's all going to be moot anyway. He'll never come off the field.

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[quote=GTripp0012;907996]I could see that if Hankerson never gets healthy, and Moss ends up taking his reps in a fair competition with Morgan.

I would still bet on Morgan though. It's ultimately going to be Kyle's decision, but Mike's a big fan of Morgan.

If Hankerson is healthy and ready to go through OTA's, it's all going to be moot anyway. He'll never come off the field.[/quote]This should make for an ultra competitive training camp for the WR corps that's for sure.
I consider whatever production we get form Hankerson as a bonus.

BTW, has it been reported where they're gonna play Garcon?
Because Garcon still seems like more of an Z then an X to me.

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[quote=The Goat;907585]I'll be surprised if Hankerson or Morgan starts. One of my guys in the office is a longtime Niners fan and doesn't think Morgan is a starting-caliber WR, as in SanFran was more than happy to see him go. Hankerson's injury is a big-time question mark. If Garcon isn't at Z then Gaffney or even Moss will likely be the opening day starter.[/quote]

Why does it sound like Hankerson is going to be Malcolm Kelly v. 2.0?

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[quote=30gut;908011]This should make for an ultra competitive training camp for the WR corps that's for sure.
I consider whatever production we get form Hankerson as a bonus.

BTW, has it been reported where they're gonna play Garcon?
Because Garcon still seems like more of an Z then an X to me.[/quote]Rich Campbell reported that, citing coach Shanahan.

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[quote=GTripp0012;908018]Rich Campbell reported that, citing coach Shanahan.[/quote]


In an open competition I am betting on Santana. No defensive coordinator in the NFL would try to cover Moss with a third corner back. He has been less productive because it has always been double team Moss, because there is no other viable alternative. Hopefully with Garcon, Hankerson as threats and Griffin moving around in the pocket, we see a resurgence for Moss ala like Steve Smith 2011. Bye Bye Gaffney.

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[quote=GTripp0012;907996]I could see that if Hankerson never gets healthy, and Moss ends up taking his reps in a fair competition with Morgan.

I would still bet on Morgan though. It's ultimately going to be Kyle's decision, but Mike's a big fan of Morgan.

If Hankerson is healthy and ready to go through OTA's, it's all going to be moot anyway. He'll never come off the field.[/quote]

A rarity that I agree with everything you say here. Hankerson is the key to our WR position taking a big leap in production. Healthy, with a full offseason learning the offense and a full training camp he has potential to break out to be a 60 catch guy. If that happens it will open up vertical plays for Garçon and clear out underneath spaces for Morgan/Moss.

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[quote=GTripp0012;908018]Rich Campbell reported that, citing coach Shanahan.[/quote]Yeah, that article seemed more like his own expectation rather then something he got from coach.

[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/redskins-watch/2012/mar/28/wr-garcon-and-morgan-fit-shanahans-playmaker-criti/]WR Garcon and Morgan fit Shanahan's playmaker critieria - Washington Times[/url]

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[quote=DynamiteRave;908017]Why does it sound like Hankerson is going to be Malcolm Kelly v. 2.0?[/quote]

Geez I hope that's not the case. Hopefully Hank's hip injury was a freak thing and he eventually recovers. That said I've heard it's a long healing process and he/us would be silly to push too hard this season if there's risk of re-injury.

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Please remember when we drafted MK he was already hurt.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;908237]Please remember when we drafted MK he was already hurt.[/quote]

Yeah he came with an injury red flag already in place.

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Thanks again Vinny...ahole :)