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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1065909]I hear ya, I feel like Vinnie C when I start saying get him. BUT he would solidify our receiving corps free up the 2nd pick for a RT, and he would give us a solid punt return threat.
I don't think it will happen because I think Bruce will be the anti Vinnie, which is generally what we needed here.[/quote]

There is really no tackle at that spot worth getting. It would be better to trade down about 12-15 picks, and add another 3rd rounder. Who knows what will happen.

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[quote=skins89moss;1065964]I was killed from my earlier post that Aldrick Robinson has some of the same attributes as DeSean Jackson. They both are deep threat WR's and can run after the catch. I'm not saying Robinson is as talented as DeSean but he is much cheaper and doesn't come with the baggage. I'm torn on this because the last time the Eagles gave away their star player it was McNasty. We got hosed on that deal. The Eagles not only gave away their best WR but they have a cap hit this year for 6.5 million for releasing D-Jax. They must really wanted to get rid of him. We have seen DeSean be a distraction for the Eagles over the years , but also seen him make big time plays. If the price is right sometimes you have to roll the dice and hope he grows up and becomes a real pro. Its funny if we sign him we get blasted by the Haters. Yes we have made some dumb free agent signings but DeSean is 27yrs old with tons of talent so how can you not take the risk if you need a another WR to go along with Garcon. This gives RGIII another big time playmaker and who says if we draft a WR he will be productive. I read that D.Hall wants him here so lets make it happen for the right price. HTTR[/quote]

Number one, yes, he is a great receiver. He would be a great threat, and RG3 knows how to throw the deep ball. EVERYTHING would open up for the rest of our offense. No question.

Number two, though, is we should get him only if Gruden thinks he can control him, and make him a long time contributor. Not because DHall or anyone else wants him here.

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[quote=skins89moss;1065964]I was killed from my earlier post that Aldrick Robinson has some of the same attributes as DeSean Jackson. They both are deep threat WR's and can run after the [B]catch.[/B] I'm not saying Robinson is as talented as DeSean but he is much cheaper and doesn't come with the baggage. I'm torn on this because the last time the Eagles gave away their star player it was McNasty. We got hosed on that deal. The Eagles not only gave away their best WR but they have a cap hit this year for 6.5 million for releasing D-Jax. They must really wanted to get rid of him. We have seen DeSean be a distraction for the Eagles over the years , but also seen him make big time plays. If the price is right sometimes you have to roll the dice and hope he grows up and becomes a real pro. Its funny if we sign him we get blasted by the Haters. Yes we have made some dumb free agent signings but DeSean is 27yrs old with tons of talent so how can you not take the risk if you need a another WR to go along with Garcon. This gives RGIII another big time playmaker and who says if we draft a WR he will be productive. I read that D.Hall wants him here so lets make it happen for the right price. HTTR[/quote]

The key here is Robinson actually has to make the catch. His hands are a question mark, though admittedly they got a little better towards the end of the season... and he wasn't really known for running any routes except the fly. I'd like to see what he can do on a real route and if he can make guys miss.

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[quote=Mechanix544;1066079]There is really no tackle at that spot worth getting. It would be better to trade down about 12-15 picks, and add another 3rd rounder. Who knows what will happen.[/quote]

I agree there will probably be no tackle worth taking at #34, however I doubt you can get an extra 3rd for trading down a dozen spots

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Ryan Clark, welcome back to the Redskins per ESPN980's Chris Russell

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[quote=Paintrain;1066289]Ryan Clark, welcome back to the Redskins per ESPN980's Chris Russell[/quote]

If it is for close to minimum (as most reports seem to indicate is what he was looking at), I think this is a solid signing.

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[quote=Paintrain;1066289]Ryan Clark, welcome back to the Redskins per ESPN980's Chris Russell[/quote]

Very good news. Nice start to the week.

I'm happily surprised. A professional Secondary.

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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1066085]The key here is Robinson actually has to make the catch. His hands are a question mark, though admittedly they got a little better towards the end of the season... and he wasn't really known for running any routes except the fly. I'd like to see what he can do on a real route and if he can make guys miss.[/QUOTE]


Well said Rave. Not to mention Jackson is a special teams threat as well.

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He is going to really help with the leadership in the locker room as well.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1066138]I agree there will probably be no tackle worth taking at #34, however I doubt you can get an extra 3rd for trading down a dozen spots[/quote]

According to the trade value chart (for what it is worth), a trade down from 34 to 50 nets an extra third round pick.

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Nice solid leadership and still has some ball left. Plus a good move to help DJax out :)

Just heard on sirius that someone out of philly tweeted DJax to skins a done deal. Sorry turned on radio n caught tail end. They said its unofficial but.......

[QUOTE=chewman;1066295]He is going to really help with the leadership in the locker room as well.[/QUOTE]


We have leaders whose job that is. Also after his release and subsequent mud dragging I bet he has his most unproblematic season yet.

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I still want us to keep doing the due dilligence with available linemen.

[QUOTE=Gary84Clark;1066458]I still want us to keep doing the due dilligence with available linemen.[/QUOTE]


Not sure there are any left. I am hoping we draft all o-line though. Lol

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[quote=punch it in;1066459]Not sure there are any left. I am hoping we draft all o-line though. Lol[/quote]

Hope we take O-linemen through the draft, but even afterwards we could pick up other teams scraps after the draft when they drop their veteran players to make space for their drafted new ones. Still room for FA moves until August.

[QUOTE=ethat001;1066461]Hope we take O-linemen through the draft, but even afterwards we could pick up other teams scraps after the draft when they drop their veteran players to make space for their drafted new ones. Still room for FA moves until August.[/QUOTE]


True. We just might resemble a good team by September.

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If we learnt anything from 2014 Free Agency, I think it would be don't spend your $$$ to fast, you never know who might come available.

^ so true

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[quote=Lotus;1066308]According to the trade value chart (for what it is worth), a trade down from 34 to 50 nets an extra third round pick.[/quote]

I hope you are right, they still need help almost everywhere.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1067155]I hope you are right, they still need help almost everywhere.[/quote]

No, no we don't

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[quote=Irrefutable;1067155]I hope you are right, they still need help almost everywhere.[/quote]

I wouldn't say almost everywhere, but right tackle, safety, cb, and ILB are positions I hope they smartly address in the 2nd thru 4th rounds of the draft if we can get any more with smart trades. If not and we stand pat at our picks, needing to be addressed in order IMO is off tackle, cb, and then safety. We could get a solid ILB, another athletic tight end since Gruden likes two tight end formations, and maybe a red zone threat WR or 3rd down back with our 5th thru 7th round picks.

All I know is they have some flexibility to go BPA in this draft and add some much needed young depth to the team with currently serviceable pieces plugged in this season already that can learn their roles without being forced into starting before they're ready. It will be nice having a first round pick again next year though that's for sure.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1067158]No, no we don't[/quote]


C,G, T, TE, DL ILB, OLB, CB, and S

most of the free agents they signed are temporary fixes

[QUOTE=Irrefutable;1067174]C,G, T, TE, DL ILB, OLB, CB, and S



most of the free agents they signed are temporary fixes[/QUOTE]


Olb and dl - no. Te - no. Reed and Paulsen are fine. You cannot have stud backups at every position. We have alot of young d-backs that may look alittle better in their second year - especially with the push that Hatcher should give our dline. ILB, and oline on the rite side. That is all. We have six picks in the draft to address our oline an ILB and maybe a dback. Not nearly as lacking as you think. Of course injuries can derail what we have going on but last time I checked that can happen to any team in the league.

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I hope we're not done in FA. We only need about $1MM in cap space to sign our draft picks and there are possible cuts and restructures that could be done to create more cap room.

I'd like to see the Skins sign a RT, even if they plan to draft one. I've mentioned Winston and Clabo a hundred times but I guess I can't say it enough that I think one of them could help us in the short term. I don't want to start the season with a turnstile at RT.

I also like the idea of picking up Owen Daniels as insurance at receiving TE.

Either Johnny Jolly or Terrence Cody might be a decent pick up at NT.

Anthony Spencer, if he can get healthy, would be an awesome pickup at OLB. We can wait for him. One year "prove it" deal.

I'm starting to think that the Skins may be done with Rob Jackson. If not, I'd like to see him picked up for depth at OLB if we can't get Spencer.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1067174]C,G, T, TE, DL ILB, OLB, CB, and S

most of the free agents they signed are temporary fixes[/quote]

C,G - late round at best
RT - 2nd, or a trade down - pick up extra pick, then mid 2nd, or 3rd
TE - 4th or 5th
DL - doubt we do anything here at all
ILB - 3rd 4th or 5th
OLB - not sure we would do anything there.
CB - again unlikely
S - 2nd, 3rd or 4th at the latest

That's what I see at least

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1067208]I hope we're not done in FA. We only need about $1MM in cap space to sign our draft picks and there are possible cuts and restructures that could be done to create more cap room.

I'd like to see the Skins sign a RT, even if they plan to draft one. I've mentioned Winston and Clabo a hundred times but I guess I can't say it enough that I think one of them could help us in the short term. I don't want to start the season with a turnstile at RT.

I also like the idea of picking up Owen Daniels as insurance at receiving TE.

Either Johnny Jolly or Terrence Cody might be a decent pick up at NT.

Anthony Spencer, if he can get healthy, would be an awesome pickup at OLB. We can wait for him. One year "prove it" deal.

I'm starting to think that the Skins may be done with Rob Jackson. If not, I'd like to see him picked up for depth at OLB if we can't get Spencer.[/quote]

over the cap has us at 2.6mill after Djax's contract. I know next year will have a large cap hit for him, but I am still impressed with Allen's ability when it comes to contract and cap management.

At this point signing Clabo or Winston would seem like a good move to me. If we are going to do more 3 or 5 step drops Polumbus is just a pure liability.

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[quote=punch it in;1067193]Olb and dl - no. Te - no. Reed and Paulsen are fine. You cannot have stud backups at every position. We have alot of young d-backs that may look alittle better in their second year - especially with the push that Hatcher should give our dline. ILB, and oline on the rite side. That is all. We have six picks in the draft to address our oline an ILB and maybe a dback. Not nearly as lacking as you think. Of course injuries can derail what we have going on but last time I checked that can happen to any team in the league.[/quote]

OLB Orakpo is a free agent next year, and there is no depth

DL- there is no true nose guard

TE- Paulson is very average, in two TE sets you need 2 good ones, this is a good draft for TEs

maybe a dback ? Clark will be 35, a safety is crucial

[QUOTE=Irrefutable;1067211]OLB Orakpo is a free agent next year, and there is no depth



DL- there is no true nose guard



TE- Paulson is very average, in two TE sets you need 2 good ones, this is a good draft for TEs



maybe a dback ? Clark will be 35, a safety is crucial[/QUOTE]


I say maybe a d-back because we went so heavy in last years draft. Id like to see what they can do first. As i said Hatcher should help the pass rush and than these young guys can prove themselves without having to cover a damn wr for five or ten minutes at a time. Lol
I understand about Orakpo and depth, but for now we have him and I think oline needs to be adressed first and foremost.

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Just heard we signed Colt McCoy? Sorry no link.

Edit: [url]https://twitter.com/Redskins/status/451739939336491012/photo/1[/url]

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[quote=724Skinsfan;1067217]Just heard we signed Colt McCoy? Sorry no link.[/quote]

April Fools was Tuesday!
:cheeky:

j/k

Championship!!!
:food-smil


ok, seriously, I got nothin'
:sleep:

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[quote=724Skinsfan;1067217]Just heard we signed Colt McCoy? Sorry no link.

Edit: [url]https://twitter.com/Redskins/status/451739939336491012/photo/1[/url][/quote]


you cannot trade Cousins now

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I'm surprised it took this long to sign McCoy

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This year's flavor of colt brennan. aka nobody we care about.

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[url=http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/41699/Redskins-sign-backup-QB-Colt-McCoy/Default.aspx]Redskins sign backup QB Colt McCoy[/url]

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McCoy? I suspect people will speculate that this means we may try harder to move Cousins for a draft pick, although I tend to think that unlikely and I hope it is not the case. McCoy as a 3rd string is fine, but any higher up the food chain would be bad.

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McCoy is good competition for Cousins. We can compare him to Colt. Hell Colt might be a better back up at the end of the day.

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colt is a quality camp arm. you need 4 QBs in TC due to the increased roster size. i wouldn't read much more into it, though he's a good #3 if we take 3 QBs into the season, or he can be our #3 QB while sitting on his couch this year.

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[quote=That Guy;1067236]colt is a quality camp arm. you need 4 QBs in TC due to the increased roster size. i wouldn't read much more into it, though he's a good #3 if we take 3 QBs into the season, or he can be our #3 QB while sitting on his couch this year.[/quote]

exactly, I think there is a mini camp in about a week