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INSIDER
Trump claims US was unified under his presidency before COVID-19: 'Everybody was happy'

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/trump-claims-us-unified-under-132244973.html[/url]


Tell trump isn't deranged?!

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[quote=Chico23231;1318303]^

Kavenaugh is tough and will not be bullied. Doesn’t matter. Their imitation tactics didn’t work.

Cowards who claim they don’t know what a woman is because they aren’t a biologist, I don’t they could take this type of ridicule…or their coward defenders.[/quote]

chico , you might want to learn from an intelligent response.

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/pete-buttigieg-praised-intelligent-precise-183847009.html[/url]

Pete Buttigieg Praised for ‘Intelligent and Precise’ Interview Schooling Fox News on Kavanaugh Protesters (Video)

In a clip from the interview, Emanuel asked the politician if the tweet — which read, “Sounds like [Kavanaugh] just wanted some privacy to make his own dining decisions” in reference to Kavanaugh’s role in overturning Roe v. Wade — was “appropriate.”

Buttigieg began his answer by establishing that public officials should always be free of “violence, harassment and intimidation” in public locations, while adding that they will “never be free of criticism or peaceful protest” from individuals exercising their rights to freedom of speech.

He continued, “Remember, the justice [Kavanaugh] never even came in contact with these protesters. They reportedly didn’t see or hear them, and these protesters are upset because a right — an important right, that the majority of Americans support — was taken away. Not only the right to choose, by the way, but this justice was part of the process of stripping away the right to privacy.”

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Lol…you do understand 3 weeks ago a leftist democrat protestor was arrested for attempt murder of Big Kavy and his family?

Sit the fuck down. Leaking the Dobbs draft, illegal protests and democrat groups paying bounties for Justice sightings is clearly imitation of the courts.

Clownish. This is from the same folks who claim “speech is violence” online but justify burning down of city blocks, attacking police officers, attacking prolife women clinics

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[quote=Chico23231;1318340][B]Lol…you do understand 3 weeks ago a leftist democrat protestor was arrested for attempt murder of Big Kavy and his family?[/B]

You mean the guy who called the Police on himself?

[B]Sit the fuck down. Leaking the Dobbs draft, illegal protests and democrat groups paying bounties for Justice sightings is clearly imitation of the courts[/B].
LOL, you're a fucking fool. You ignore the politicizing of the Supreme Court of the US and then cry when peaceful protester show up and make your lying Supreme Court Justice cry . STFU!


[B]Clownish. This is from the same folks who claim “speech is violence” online but justify burning down of city blocks, attacking police officers, attacking prolife women clinics[/B][/quote]


The clown is you, you have no idea who these people are . We know that you are a trumpette sheep that can't think for yourself.

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[SIZE="6"][B]Keep Ignoring it chico![/B][/SIZE]

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWFAHVWVUAEXk2Q.jpg[/IMG]

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segregation was wrong, the SC reversed itself and corrected a moral error. abortion for abortion sake is wrong, the SC reversed itself and corrected a moral error. I hope one day these justices will be seen in the same light as Thurgood Marshall, and that the US will once again extol the sanctity of life.

one other truth, 50 years ago options and education around safe sex, choice, and day after pills were non-existent. It is a good thing that these things are far more available today.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1318371]segregation was wrong, the SC reversed itself and corrected a moral error. abortion for abortion sake is wrong, the SC reversed itself and corrected a moral error. I hope one day these justices will be seen in the same light as Thurgood Marshall, and that the US will once again extol the sanctity of life.

[B]one other truth, 50 years ago options and education around safe sex, choice, and day after pills were non-existent. It is a good thing that these things are far more available today[/B].[/quote]

The Justice's you're so proud of want to get rid of those things too.

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[quote=Giantone;1318344][SIZE="6"][B]Keep Ignoring it chico![/B][/SIZE]

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWFAHVWVUAEXk2Q.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

[SIZE="7"][B]They Lied![/B][/SIZE]

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[quote=Giantone;1318372]The Justice's you're so proud of want to get rid of those things too.[/quote]

That's next on the agenda and Cred wants to act like it's about the sanctity of life lol.

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[quote=mooby;1318435]That's next on the agenda and Cred wants to act like it's about the sanctity of life lol.[/quote]

For me, and I believe most who are against abortion as a sanctified right, is that it is a sanctity of life issue. Sorry if that doesn't fit your agenda or view of my beliefs.

But even outside of the sanctity of life issue. The Constitution was written to establish a government that was responsive at the lowest level. The Federal government was supposed to handle cooperation between the independent states, we have certainly grown beyond that, but at some level the 10th amendment still exists:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Abortion, condoms, etc, those are state level issues, they should not be federally mandated. Not as our constitution is written at least.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1318437]For me, and I believe most who are against abortion as a sanctified right, is that it is a sanctity of life issue. Sorry if that doesn't fit your agenda or view of my beliefs.

But even outside of the sanctity of life issue. The Constitution was written to establish a government that was responsive at the lowest level. The Federal government was supposed to handle cooperation between the independent states, we have certainly grown beyond that, but at some level the 10th amendment still exists:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Abortion, condoms, etc, those are state level issues, they should not be federally mandated. Not as our constitution is written at least.[/quote]

Cool story bro.

[url]https://www.newsweek.com/gop-push-nationwide-abortion-ban-3-weeks-after-calling-it-state-issue-republicans-1724909[/url]

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[quote=mooby;1318456]Cool story bro.

[url]https://www.newsweek.com/gop-push-nationwide-abortion-ban-3-weeks-after-calling-it-state-issue-republicans-1724909[/url][/quote]

Pretty cool your President fist bumping MBS the Saudi Prince these days, begging a like a whore for oil while refusing to increase supply here.

I guess you aren’t gonna throw the same fit in here about Kashoggi either. Adults back in the room!

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[quote=Chico23231;1318457]Pretty cool your President fist bumping MBS the Saudi Prince these days, begging a like a whore for oil while refusing to increase supply here.

I guess you aren’t gonna throw the same fit in here about Kashoggi either. Adults back in the room![/quote]

Cool story bro.

Sounds like the beginning of some US-Saudi fanfic.

Biden lowered himself gently to his knees in a private meeting with MBS. MBS motioned him forward, then softly whispered in his ear, "how bad do you want this oil sweetheart?"

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[quote=Chico23231;1318457]Pretty cool your President fist bumping MBS the Saudi Prince these days, begging a like a whore for oil while refusing to increase supply here.

I guess you aren’t gonna throw the same fit in here about Kashoggi either. Adults back in the room![/quote]



chico this is why you're not taken seriously. You think this meeting is all about Oil. STFU

[url]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biden-meet-middle-east-leaders-focus-iran-israel-rcna38168[/url]

Biden tells Middle East leaders the U.S. 'is not going anywhere'
The president said the United States would continue to be engaged in the region as it looks to prevent Russia and China from taking a bigger foothold.

“We will not walk away to leave a vacuum to be filled by China, Russia or Iran. We will seek to build on this moment with active, principled American leadership," he said.

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[quote=mooby;1318456]Cool story bro.

[url]https://www.newsweek.com/gop-push-nationwide-abortion-ban-3-weeks-after-calling-it-state-issue-republicans-1724909[/url][/quote]
from your article
[quote]Justice Samuel Alito, in his majority opinion in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, [B]wrote that the Court's decision would allow "each State to regulate abortion as its citizens wish."[/B][/quote]

There is no national mandate on banning abortion, I think the election will be interesting to see if there is a national mandate on making abortion legal. I don't think it is surprising that some members of the house are going to have the most extreme view on either side, I certainly would not expect the house after this election to have a strong enough majority to vote for a national abortion ban. It may be a strong enough issue to give the pro-abortion lobby. I doubt either side would make it through the senate regardless of which party is in control.

Therefore, each state will now have the right and ability to listen to it's population as they vote. I know Virginia's ads have a strong abortion message (both sides).

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1318437][B]For me, and I believe most who are against abortion as a sanctified right, is that it is a sanctity of life issue.[/B] Sorry if that doesn't fit your agenda or view of my beliefs.

But even outside of the sanctity of life issue. The Constitution was written to establish a government that was responsive at the lowest level. The Federal government was supposed to handle cooperation between the independent states, we have certainly grown beyond that, but at some level the 10th amendment still exists:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Abortion, condoms, etc, those are state level issues, they should not be federally mandated. Not as our constitution is written at least.[/quote]

As long as you're the one to determine the life , right? The fetus over the Mother at all cost!

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[quote=Giantone;1318478]As long as you're the one to determine the life , right? The fetus over the Mother at all cost![/quote]

Except that isn't what he is saying. Even the most extreme state proposal isn't banning abortion at any point in pregnancy when the life or serious physical risk to the mother is at stake. We are 50 years behind the rest of the developed world because of Roe so it is going to take a while for the US to come to the consensus that Roe prevented.

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[quote=nonniey;1318485]Except that isn't what he is saying. Even the most extreme state proposal isn't banning abortion at any point in pregnancy when the life or serious physical risk to the mother is at stake. We are 50 years behind the rest of the developed world because of Roe so it is going to take a while for the US to come to the consensus that Roe prevented.[/quote]

No , that's exactly what they want!



[url]https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/06/01/1102364461/abortion-bans-with-no-exceptions-may-be-politically-risky[/url]

Oklahoma has passed three laws restricting abortion. The latest one, signed by the governor Wednesday, bans abortion beginning at fertilization, which would, at least in theory, ban both in vitro fertilization and many forms of hormonal birth control. (The Oklahoma bill's sponsor says that is not the law's intent.)

During debate in the Oklahoma Senate on the strictest of the bans, Republican Sen. Warren Hamilton said he did not think the measure went far enough because it allowed abortions in the case of an ectopic pregnancy, a life-threatening medical emergency in which an embryo is growing outside the uterus.

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[SIZE="6"][B]To add They're NOT DONE YET![/B][/SIZE]


[url]https://news.yahoo.com/ted-cruz-targets-marriage-equality-002403586.html[/url]

U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz said plainly that he believes the Supreme Court should overturn the landmark decision that established marriage equality in all 50 states.

On his podcast Verdict With Ted Cruz, the Texas Republican discussed the potential of overturning Obergefell v. Hodges, the 2015 Supreme Court decision that established states cannot deny same-sex couples the right to marry.

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All this trouble because you nut jobs believe Mary was a virgin and Jesus was a white man.
Santa isn't real either you dopes!

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[quote=jamf;1318491]All this trouble because you nut jobs believe Mary was a virgin and Jesus was a white man.
Santa isn't real either you dopes![/quote]

Wait , what??? WTF!!! I bet you go to little kids birthday parties and blow out the candles on the cake!:httr:

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[quote=jamf;1318491]All this trouble because you nut jobs believe Mary was a virgin and Jesus was a white man.
Santa isn't real either you dopes![/quote]

Preach .... christian religion now being used to govern our country is so fucked up.

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Fairy tales and legends.

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I'm definitely pro-freedom of religion, I really want to turn the US into a religious state that follows [URL="https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/about-us"]the 7 fundamental tenets of The Satanic Temple[/URL]. So thanks SCOTUS for finally empowering us religious types.

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Atheists can be and often are as fanatical as even the most fanatical religious person. Better to be an agnostic, no fanaticism there.

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"Democrats’ bad policies are responsible for today’s historic inflation"

"........Exhibit A: Trillions of dollars in reckless spending in 2021 when the economy was recovering led to too many dollars chasing too few goods. Exhibit B: The numerous government programs such as expanded unemployment insurance through most of 2021 that encouraged Americans not to work, reducing labor supply and pushing up costs.

Exhibit C: Radical green energy policies downstream from Biden’s “guarantee” on the campaign trail “to end fossil fuel” that reduced supply and drove up gas prices. Exhibit D: Support for easy money and Modern Monetary Theory policy that led to a historic expansion of the money supply and devalued the dollar......"

[url]https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/3560314-democrats-bad-policies-are-responsible-for-todays-historic-inflation/[/url]

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[quote=nonniey;1318510]"Democrats’ bad policies are responsible for today’s historic inflation"

"........Exhibit A: Trillions of dollars in reckless spending in 2021 when the economy was recovering led to too many dollars chasing too few goods. Exhibit B: The numerous government programs such as expanded unemployment insurance through most of 2021 that encouraged Americans not to work, reducing labor supply and pushing up costs.

Exhibit C: Radical green energy policies downstream from Biden’s “guarantee” on the campaign trail “to end fossil fuel” that reduced supply and drove up gas prices. Exhibit D: Support for easy money and Modern Monetary Theory policy that led to a historic expansion of the money supply and devalued the dollar......"

[url]https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/3560314-democrats-bad-policies-are-responsible-for-todays-historic-inflation/[/url][/quote]
JHC! A) You do realize the republicans also had spending plans
B) AGAIN plans that were put into place to help Americans during a World Wide Pandemic shut down. But I get it the righteous right says to hell with working Americans.
C) LOL, so Biden made good on a campaign promise and it pissed big energy off, FT. He told people he would do exactly what he did, unlike trump he didn't lie.
D) LOL, that is just BS.

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Seriously chico ,Cred,SDSkins. How in the hell can you back a moron like this?

[url]https://thehill.com/homenews/media/3564644-pulitzers-rejects-trump-demand-to-revoke-wapo-nyt-awards/[/url]


Pulitzers rejects Trump demand to revoke WaPo, NYT awards


The Pulitzer board commissioned a review of the winning works, but found no reason to pull back the awards.

“The separate reviews converged in their conclusions: that no passages or headlines, contentions or assertions in any of the winning submissions were discredited by facts that emerged subsequent to the conferral of the prizes,” the board said in a statement.

“The 2018 Pulitzer Prizes in National Reporting stand,” the statement continued.

The board said the review followed an established, formal process to review complaints against winning entries.

Trump has pressed for the Pulitzers to be revoked since October, labeling the winning stories “totally incorrect reporting” that “have become worthless and meaningless.”

The board said the requests from Trump and others, who they did not name, prompted the reviews, which were conducted by individuals with no connection to the two papers or each other.

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[quote=Giantone;1318514]Seriously chico ,Cred,SDSkins. How in the hell can you back a moron like this?

[url]https://thehill.com/homenews/media/3564644-pulitzers-rejects-trump-demand-to-revoke-wapo-nyt-awards/[/url]


Pulitzers rejects Trump demand to revoke WaPo, NYT awards


The Pulitzer board commissioned a review of the winning works, but found no reason to pull back the awards.

“The separate reviews converged in their conclusions: that no passages or headlines, contentions or assertions in any of the winning submissions were discredited by facts that emerged subsequent to the conferral of the prizes,” the board said in a statement.

“The 2018 Pulitzer Prizes in National Reporting stand,” the statement continued.

The board said the review followed an established, formal process to review complaints against winning entries.

Trump has pressed for the Pulitzers to be revoked since October, labeling the winning stories “totally incorrect reporting” that “have become worthless and meaningless.”

The board said the requests from Trump and others, who they did not name, prompted the reviews, which were conducted by individuals with no connection to the two papers or each other.[/quote]

Not surprising as there are even worse awards that the board refuses to rescind (NYT's Duranty award is the top example of an egregious award that absolutely should have been rescinded - and the NYT still proudly claims that one in their stats). Oh and Trump wasn't the only one calling for those awards to be rescinded - Journalists from every side of the spectrum were.

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[quote=nonniey;1318515]Not surprising as there are even worse awards that the board refuses to rescind (NYT's Duranty award is the top example of an egregious award that absolutely should have been rescinded - and the NYT still proudly claims that one in their stats).[B] Oh and Trump wasn't the only one calling for those awards to be rescinded - Journalists from every side of the spectrum were[/B].[/quote]

I know that but you have to acknowledge they reviewed it and still gave the finger to trump and the other liars.

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[quote=Giantone;1318517]I know that but you have to acknowledge they reviewed it and still gave the finger to trump and the other liars.[/quote]

Oh he is definitely a liar for the ages, but he wasn't lying on this issue. I still think that refusing to correct/rescind awards given for stories that were based on bad info or lies just further damages the press's reputation (and it already has dug itself to lowest point it has ever been. It needs to stop digging).

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[quote=Giantone;1318517]I know that but you have to acknowledge they reviewed it and still gave the finger to trump and the other liars.[/quote]

Lol…as we know, there wasn’t any Russian collusion, the Steele dos was false and the liars were anyone in congress who claimed to had seen evidence trump colluded with russia.

We know from recent testimony that this was just Democrat oppo and the FBI review it and said there was no evidence long before Mueller came along.

The problem is this, if you are a respectable news organization you are suppose to present the facts and investigate the evidence. The NYT did not…only after the Muller report was released did they admit the Steele Dos was discredited

The NYT pushed a conspiracy theory and false narratives that aligned with their political biased simply because they didn’t like Trump.

Folks actually still believe this Russian collusion nonsense, which is the biggest disinformation political campaign of my lifetime.

And media wonders why we don’t believe them or why our faith in institutions are failing to record lows.

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[quote=Chico23231;1318521]Lol…[B]as we know, there wasn’t any Russian collusion, the Steele dos was false and the liars were anyone in congress who claimed to had seen evidence trump colluded with russia.
[/B]
[B]We [/B]know from recent testimony that this was just Democrat oppo and the FBI review it and said there was no evidence long before Mueller came along.

The problem is this, if you are a respectable news organization you are suppose to present the facts and investigate the evidence. The NYT did not…only after the Muller report was released did they admit the Steele Dos was discredited

The NYT pushed a conspiracy theory and false narratives that aligned with their political biased simply because they didn’t like Trump.

[B]Folks actually still believe this Russian collusion nonsense, which is the biggest disinformation political campaign of my lifetime.
[/B]
And media wonders why [B]we[/B] don’t believe them or why our faith in institutions are failing to record lows.[/quote]

LOL I love how you play the "collusion" BS . Mueller proved Russia intervened on trumps behalf and it was his kids that were the middle men Barr just wouldn't indicted.




What's this we shit??? .............you keep proving you know shit!

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[quote=nonniey;1318519]Oh he is definitely a liar for the ages, but he wasn't lying on this issue. I still think that refusing to correct/rescind awards given for stories that were based on bad info or lies just further damages the press's reputation (and it already has dug itself to lowest point it has ever been. It needs to stop digging).[/quote]

People who aren't in the industry need to stay out of things they don't know anything about and that includes telling them who should and should not get an award.

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[quote=Giantone;1318522]LOL I love how you play the "collusion" BS . [B]Mueller proved Russia intervened on trumps behalf and it was his kids that were the middle men[/B] Barr just wouldn't indicted.




What's this we shit??? .............you keep proving you know shit![/quote]

Lol…what? No Mueller didn’t …..and kids were middle man? What are you talking about?

G1, I sometimes picture you as the My Pillow Guy, but with the complete opposite behavior…Bizzaro My Pillow Guy. Instead of endearing love of Trump, you have complete disgust and hate. Instead of My Pillow, you have My Bedpan.

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[quote=Chico23231;1318524]Lol…what? No Mueller didn’t …..and kids were middle man? What are you talking about?

G1, I sometimes picture you as the My Pillow Guy, but with the complete opposite behavior…Bizzaro My Pillow Guy. Instead of endearing love of Trump, you have complete disgust and hate. Instead of My Pillow, you have My Bedpan.[/quote]

chico you're a moron.

[url]https://www.americanbar.org/news/abanews/aba-news-archives/2019/03/mueller-concludes-investigation/[/url]


Mueller finds no collusion with Russia, [B]leaves obstruction question open[/B]



[B] did not take a clear position on whether Trump obstructed justice.[/B]

,[B] despite multiple efforts from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign.[/B]”

[B]As far as obstruction, the Mueller report laid out facts on both sides but did not reach a conclusion. Barr’s letter said that “the Special Counsel states that ‘while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.’”[/B]




[url]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45079377[/url]

Trump admits son met Russian for information on opponent

[B]US President Donald Trump has admitted his son met a Russian lawyer in June 2016 "to get information on an opponent"[/B], but argues it was legal.

[B]Donald Trump Jr's meeting with Kremlin-linked lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya at Trump Tower could constitute a breach of US campaign rules, experts say.[/B]





what I imagin chico looks like after posting..........

[IMG][IMG]https://memegenerator.net/img/images/8353060.jpg[/IMG][/IMG]

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G1 you do know what you just posted corroborated what I and Chico were saying right? If not, maybe you actually are the Bizarro my pillow guy.

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I see the Maga wing of the GOP just threw away any shot of retaining the Maryland Governor's office (There was a reason progressives were helping Cox after all). Not quite the Christine O'Donnel level stupidity all over again but same thinking.

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[quote=nonniey;1318528]G1 you do know what you just posted corroborated what I and Chico were saying right? If not, maybe you actually are the Bizarro my pillow guy.[/quote]

I was thinking that, but didn't want to hurt his feelings. :D

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[quote=nonniey;1318528]G1 you do know what you just posted corroborated what I and Chico were saying right? If not, maybe you actually are the Bizarro my pillow guy.[/quote]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, spin away. Real Americans know what trump did .Mueller pointed it out. Barr just protected the crook. Mueller said it was the AG's job to file charges not his , Barr protected trump,