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Matt Miller tweet:

Talked to a college coach this week who told me “life in the NFL is so much better than college now. We’re all trying to get to the league.”

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College football is being destroyed

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1358233]Honestly though, who were the "serious" candidates (who actually got at least one interview)?

Ben Johnson: Seems to be a great OC, but obviously not ready to be a HC. Probably can't lead his dog to the dog dish.
Bobby Slowik: Had a great year, has more to prove. Not ready.
Raheem Morris: Intriguing, ready for round 2, but went to Atlanta.
Mike Macdonald - Also intriguing (my first choice), probably ready, said to be a leader, but went to Seattle.

I don't know that any of the above names were the new owner's #1. They all had 2nd interviews, but then again so did everyone below, with the exception of EB.

Aaron Glenn - in play
Anthony Weaver - in play
Dan Quinn - in play
Eric Bieniemy - in play

So half of the candidates are still in play. I can't agree that we're scraping the bottom of the barrel, or that this screams "amateur hour".[/quote]

nice macro view

honestly maybe the real answer is its a ok class of HC candidates this off season

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1358233]Honestly though, who were the "serious" candidates (who actually got at least one interview)?

Ben Johnson: Seems to be a great OC, but obviously not ready to be a HC. Probably can't lead his dog to the dog dish.
Bobby Slowik: Had a great year, has more to prove. Not ready.
Raheem Morris: Intriguing, ready for round 2, but went to Atlanta.
Mike Macdonald - Also intriguing (my first choice), probably ready, said to be a leader, but went to Seattle.

I don't know that any of the above names were the new owner's #1. They all had 2nd interviews, but then again so did everyone below, with the exception of EB.

Aaron Glenn - in play
Anthony Weaver - in play
Dan Quinn - in play
Eric Bieniemy - in play

So half of the candidates are still in play. I can't agree that we're scraping the bottom of the barrel, or that this screams "amateur hour".[/QUOTE]


Absolutely agree about it not screaming or even hinting at amateur hour and same old shit…. That is all crap.

I do think they swung and missed with BJ and I am disappointed, but honestly, in the past, guys like this probably wouldn’t even interview with us. Also what are we supposed to do? Break the bank on a rookie coach and bend over backwards to get him?

Whoever they hire will most certainly be an improvement, and like Matty said if it doesn’t work out, go get someone next year. We are recovering from 25 years of ineptitude. It is crazy to suggest nothing has changed simply because some OC doesn’t want to be here.

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Sounds like Johnson’s asking price of $15m was just him throwing out an absurd number he knew nobody would actually give him. It’s clear he doesn’t want to be a HC right now or just isn’t ready. Either way I think it’s safe to assume Peters knew he was far from a sure thing. The echo chamber of social media isn’t reality. At some point I bet we’ll get a detailed story as to what went down behind the scenes.

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Glenn,Weaver,Quinn,EB, so there is the choices ..EB could have been named head coach weeks ago so it obvious he wasn't top dog . Same with Quinn. So it's down to Glenn and Weaver ! I do not recall anyone on this forum wanting either as our first choice for head coach . So I'm I really wrong to say this was botched or are we gonna give the new guys a pass on this ? At this point there is not a clear number one with this group
Of names .. I guess Maybe Glenn ,Weaver ,Quinn,EB in that order ?? If I said that was the choices 2 weeks ago you guys would have laughed.. so yea I'm pissed at this

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So anyone we hire will be an improvement?? ok how about EB ?? Go back and read the threads about him being the problem all year and tell me he would make a good HC .so let's eliminate him .. it can only be Glenn or Weaver and they were Not on anyone's radar a few weeks ago . I just can't believe this new group didn't have some sort of clue that Johnson was not the guy ( for whatever reason) I was never a fan of his anyways and it just bothers me this happened.. My bet is Harris and company are furious at what he did and now damage control is in effect .. I'm more mad at them letting that "little Johnson" play them . F him and the lions

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[QUOTE=rocnrik;1358239]Glenn,Weaver,Quinn,EB, so there is the choices ..EB could have been named head coach weeks ago so it obvious he wasn't top dog . Same with Quinn. So it's down to Glenn and Weaver ! I do not recall anyone on this forum wanting either as our first choice for head coach . So I'm I really wrong to say this was botched or are we gonna give the new guys a pass on this ? At this point there is not a clear number one with this group
Of names .. I guess Maybe Glenn ,Weaver ,Quinn,EB in that order ?? If I said that was the choices 2 weeks ago you guys would have laughed.. so yea I'm pissed at this[/QUOTE]


Nothing was “botched”. Maybe things simply didn’t go our way, but the notion that we screwed something up is strange.

When I said anyone we hire will be an improvement I wasn’t referring to EB. I don’t seriously consider him an option to be the next HC.

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Guys I'm just pissed at the whole thing .. hopefully they get it right ! Sorry for venting 🥃👍

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Only franchise without a HC and people think this is part of the plan? I am just not seeing it. I think the top target was missed and there was an unexpected wrinkle somewhere in the process that has caused a delay in the hiring.

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I say we be the 1st team to not even have a HC. Just complete autonomy for the OC, DC, and ST coaches. Through chaos comes order.

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[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1358243]Only franchise without a HC and people think this is part of the plan? I am just not seeing it. I think the top target was missed and there was an unexpected wrinkle somewhere in the process that has caused a delay in the hiring.[/QUOTE]


Agreed. It was BJ and suddenly it wasn’t. Had to reset. Although, there is really no rush at this point. Nobody is going elsewhere now. We will have a HC soon.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1358245]I say we be the 1st team to not even have a HC. Just complete autonomy for the OC, DC, and ST coaches. Through chaos comes order.[/quote]

What really is the HC role? Call time outs, throw a red flag, decide 4th down play? Honestly a trained monkey could do that. You might be onto something. Plus having a monkey on the sideline would be cool. There’s not much more adorable than a monkey in human clothes.

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[quote=punch it in;1358246]Agreed. It was BJ and suddenly it wasn’t. Had to reset. Although, there is really no rush at this point. Nobody is going elsewhere now. We will have a HC soon.[/quote]

No doubt we will .. at this point I would like them to take some time and interview more candidates .. because right now it looks like whoever gets hired was a desperate third choice . No reason to rush now

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[url]https://bleacherreport.com/videos/522605-micah-recaps-seasonending-loss[/url]

Throwing Quinn under Bus ..

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Good article on Quinn, question is? Why didn’t the Cowboys hire him
Instead of keeping fat fuck.

[url]https://www.hawkblogger.com/2024/01/dan-quinn-is-better-than-you-think.html[/url]

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[quote=rocnrik;1358239]Glenn,Weaver,Quinn,EB, so there is the choices ..EB could have been named head coach weeks ago so it obvious he wasn't top dog . Same with Quinn. So it's down to Glenn and Weaver ! I do not recall anyone on this forum wanting either as our first choice for head coach . So I'm I really wrong to say this was botched or are we gonna give the new guys a pass on this ? At this point there is not a clear number one with this group
Of names .. I guess Maybe Glenn ,Weaver ,Quinn,EB in that order ?? If I said that was the choices 2 weeks ago you guys would have laughed.. so yea I'm pissed at this[/quote]

I don't think it's that important who anyone on this forum wanted as their first choice for head coach. Honestly, I could care less. The polls and the discussions are fun, sure. Obviously most wanted the shiny new toy in BJ because of what he has seemingly done with the Detroit offense and Goff. But no one on here knows who these dudes really are or what they are capable of. The new owners didn't even know who these dudes really were until they interviewed them. They have seen their body of work, and they have seen the results they have been a part of, and they know what they have heard... but there's a reason they decided to interview 8-9 dudes, and some of them twice. They are trying to get to know them so they can hire the right man for the job. I think so far at least five of them aren't the right man for the job. There's still three in play. Who's to say they are the top three, bottom three, or what? You and I don't know. I just don't get understand the whole sky is falling perspective.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1358252]Honestly, I could care less.[/quote]

So it's at least a little important? You care somewhat, it's not a level 0.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1358247]What really is the HC role? Call time outs, throw a red flag, decide 4th down play? Honestly a trained monkey could do that. You might be onto something. Plus having a monkey on the sideline would be cool. There’s not much more adorable than a monkey in human clothes.[/quote]

I love animals. But I hate animals in human clothes. I always feel terrible for them.

Give me the monkey, as nature intended, leave the Hawaiin shirt at home.

Look at this guy! He doesn't need a shirt to be adorable af.

[IMG]https://t3.ftcdn.net/jpg/04/44/67/72/360_F_444677224_8GcsBVNM0HTHBBz1xIqm2GsEMHf5MbG0.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1358253]So it's at least a little important? You care somewhat, it's not a level 0.[/quote]

Ok, you got me. It's a .005. That's how much I care about who anyone on this forum wanted as their first choice for head coach.

The other 99.995% goes to the process the new ownership group and GM have put together, and who they ultimately think is the right man for the job.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1358256]Ok, you got me. It's a .005. That's how much I care about who anyone on this forum wanted as their first choice for head coach.

The other 99.995% goes to the process the new ownership group and GM have put together, and who they ultimately think is the right man for the job.[/quote]

No one on the interwebs will know the 100% truth for quite some time (if ever). But I have a hard time believing this is how Harris/Peters was hoping this process would play out.

I guess some team has to be last to have a HC. But, I hope this process doesn't get extended more than a couple more days.

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Just want EB off any list of possibilities. Please.

And overall I think they were a victim of timing. Which they had so much of... but Peter's came in a little late and coaches were already flying off the board... I hope it's an out the box, inspired and innovative type of hire.

Can't believe we didn't at least interview Harbaugh

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1358257]No one on the interwebs will know the 100% truth for quite some time (if ever). But I have a hard time believing this is how Harris/Peters was hoping this process would play out.

I guess some team has to be last to have a HC. But, [B]I hope this process doesn't get extended more than a couple more days.[/B][/quote]

I'm with you on that, and I don't see this playing out past Friday for sure.

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I don't know why I have a sinking feeling they may hire Darth hoodie out of left field

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[quote=Meks;1358261]I don't know why I have a sinking feeling they may hire Darth hoodie out of left field[/quote]

That feels to Snyder-ee. I don't see that happening. I think it's Weaver, Glenn, Quinn, or the great unknown that no one saw coming.

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For the Record I never said who I wanted as coach and who I want makes no difference anyways I'm just a fan having fun on a forum .. but since it was brought up It's not even about who they ultimately hire it's about the way it's gone down ..allready on this forum we have some that think it's all part of the Plan and no big deal and others who think Harris and Company got caught totally off guard and are scrambling to right the ship .. truth is it's probably somewhere in the middle.. I don't fault anyone for there thoughts .. I'm in the camp of they got caught off guard and hopefully they make the right pick .. we won't even know that until next year when season starts and we will all watch it unfold good or bad!

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I’m getting Jim Zorn hiring vibes.

We aren’t getting our guy. They might settle for EB like they did with Zorn.

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[quote=jamf;1358264]I’m getting Jim Zorn hiring vibes.

We aren’t getting our guy. They might settle for EB like they did with Zorn.[/quote]

Well EB would be upgrade over Zorn .

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At this point why not wait till after SB and interview San Fran and KC candidates.. wouldn't that be something , spin it as that was the plan all along 😀

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How would you feel if Dan Quinn hires Chip Kelly as his OC?

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Please no no No Kelly . But Why no Wilks interview ? Peters should be all over that !

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Hire him already!! He’s very articulate and intelligent. [url]https://x.com/nickijhabvala/status/1752952445859139742?s=46&t=PLCFppIcPjVVwlav8ILf0Q[/url]

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1358254]I love animals. But I hate animals in human clothes. I always feel terrible for them.

Give me the monkey, as nature intended, leave the Hawaiin shirt at home.

Look at this guy! He doesn't need a shirt to be adorable af.

[IMG]https://t3.ftcdn.net/jpg/04/44/67/72/360_F_444677224_8GcsBVNM0HTHBBz1xIqm2GsEMHf5MbG0.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

At least a headset and a clipboard

I think you know it is all in jest. Using animals for human entertainment is pretty high on my disgust factor.

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[quote=rocnrik;1358240]So anyone we hire will be an improvement?? ok how about EB ?? Go back and read the threads about him being the problem all year and tell me he would make a good HC .so let's eliminate him .. it can only be Glenn or Weaver and they were Not on anyone's radar a few weeks ago . I just can't believe this new group didn't have some sort of clue that Johnson was not the guy ( for whatever reason) I was never a fan of his anyways and it just bothers me this happened.. My bet is Harris and company are furious at what he did and now damage control is in effect .. I'm more mad at them letting that "little Johnson" play them . F him and the lions[/quote]

I don't think there is any doubt they were blindsided by Campbell's decision, I do believe he was their first choice and they are pissed. But if a guy consults with his wife and decides to stay, for now, where he is happy and has a chance to win a ring or if a coach goes to Seattle and sees their roster, facility and stadium and choses that over the mess here in Ashburn and Raljon I can't put that on the Commanders organization.

I get that they are falling behind with regard to filing out the staff. But at this point they are the only team standing so why rush to make the fans feel better?

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Keim seems positive that the team wasn't going to make a final decision before Thursday or Friday anyway so I think this is still within the plan that that Peters and Harris have. I am concerned about filling out the staff but It wouldn't shock me if we poached from the 49ers after the SB specifically.

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[quote=Meks;1358259]Just want EB off any list of possibilities. Please.

And overall I think they were a victim of timing. Which they had so much of... but Peter's came in a little late and coaches were already flying off the board... I hope it's an out the box, inspired and innovative type of hire.

Can't believe we didn't at least interview Harbaugh[/quote]

Let’s go EB HC/OC and Joe Barry DC

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A lot still up in the air, and the way they are controlling the information flow they will claim they got their first choice candidate whether that is true or not. In the end who ever they hire, the results after 3 years will tell the tale. I just want coches who can teach and scheme with the players they have, not the stubborn "I have system" guys. Hopefully Harris and Peters sees this, or it wont matter who they hire.

As for the Ben Johnson situation, hard to believe they were not in constant contact with his agent and knew this was a possibility, hence the strategic "he is not a lock" message that came out of nowhere, at the beginning of the week. But he made a very late decision which begs the question, why not take interview and just say there an then he is not interested.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1358269]Hire him already!! He’s very articulate and intelligent. [url]https://x.com/nickijhabvala/status/1752952445859139742?s=46&t=PLCFppIcPjVVwlav8ILf0Q[/url][/quote]

I was about to post this too. Really good watch on the Ravens organizational philosophy and why they've been able to sustain competitive teams by Anthony Weaver.

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At this point IDC who the hell they hire.. Lets get to the draft asap

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1358232]PSTS (Post Snyder Trauma Sydrome) IS real! The reactions in this thread are evidence of it.

All evidence suggests that the team is following a plan: 8 initial interviews, 5 scheduled follow up interviews this week. Several of the follow up interviews were on teams that were eliminated this week ( Weaver, Glenn, Macdonald, Johnson) so no decision was going to be made before today. Did Johnson's backing out throw a wrench in it. Possibly. Does it mean that we now are doomed to Zorn II, most definitely not.

If we don't have a HC in the next week, then we can revisit the question. But right now it looks like they did the second set of interviews and are evaluating the results. I imagine an answer will be today or tomorrow.[/quote]

110% it’s Snyder related PTSD