Re: Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach (Volume 2)
 

[quote=Gary84Clark;1051141]Is there anything we can do to help keep Shanny out the Hall of Fame?[/quote]

All this Shanahan hate is out of control. Its so easy to forget that he is the one who cleaned up all the mess and dysfunction Cerrato and Snyder created.

Fletcher, whos retiring, publically lobbied for Shanahan to stay, and said 95% of the players on the team wanted him to come back. If Shanahan were a bad coach, or the team felt that HE was responsible for the current messy situation, they wouldnt be saying that. Ultimately, theres a pissing match going on between the coach and a diva QB. Fletchers comments indicate the players Side with their coach, not the Diva.... yet, so many of you want to rally behind the Diva - the source of the teams problems - and throw the coach away? Explain that to me please.

Also explain this to me - if RG3 can do this to Shanahan, a well respected, established Head Coach... how on earth do you think things will be better with a college coach in his first NFL gig? Or a coordinator in his first HC role? Change isnt always good people.

Re: Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach (Volume 2)
 

[quote=Gary84Clark;1051141]Is there anything we can do to help keep Shanny out the Hall of Fame?[/quote]



Now , really ?:smashfreak:

[QUOTE=Giantone;1051145]I think Shanahan stays ,I think everyone stays in place .I just think DS is more evolved in this then some of you think .Sometimes the best reaction is none at all .[/QUOTE]

I dont think it's Dan, I believe mike wants out

Re: Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach (Volume 2)
 

Maybe we could trade Coughlin for Shamny at midfield after the handshake.

Re: Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach (Volume 2)
 

[quote=Gary84Clark;1051141]Is there anything we can do to help keep Shanny out the Hall of Fame?[/quote]

He's doing a fine job of that himself these last 4 years.

Re: Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach (Volume 2)
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1051138]You think I'm a hoarder? I don't get it.[/quote]

I think you don't know how to get rid of things that serve no purpose anymore, and progress

Re: Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach (Volume 2)
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1051146]All this Shanahan hate is out of control. Its so easy to forget that he is the one who cleaned up all the mess and dysfunction Cerrato and Snyder created.

Fletcher, whos retiring, publically lobbied for Shanahan to stay, and said 95% of the players on the team wanted him to come back. If Shanahan were a bad coach, or the team felt that HE was responsible for the current messy situation, they wouldnt be saying that. Ultimately, theres a pissing match going on between the coach and a diva QB. Fletchers comments indicate the players Side with their coach, not the Diva.... yet, so many of you want to rally behind the Diva - the source of the teams problems - and throw the coach away? Explain that to me please.

Also explain this to me - if RG3 can do this to Shanahan, a well respected, established Head Coach... how on earth do you think things will be better with a college coach in his first NFL gig? Or a coordinator in his first HC role? Change isnt always good people.[/quote]

So you just choose to ignore the things London has said about Rob? Ok

Re: Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach (Volume 2)
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1051146]All this Shanahan hate is out of control. Its so easy to forget that he is the one who cleaned up all the mess and dysfunction Cerrato and Snyder created.

Fletcher, whos retiring, publically lobbied for Shanahan to stay, and said 95% of the players on the team wanted him to come back. If Shanahan were a bad coach, or the team felt that HE was responsible for the current messy situation, they wouldnt be saying that. Ultimately, theres a pissing match going on between the coach and a diva QB. Fletchers comments indicate the players Side with their coach, not the Diva.... yet, so many of you want to rally behind the Diva - the source of the teams problems - and throw the coach away? Explain that to me please.

Also explain this to me - if RG3 can do this to Shanahan, a well respected, established Head Coach... how on earth do you think things will be better with a college coach in his first NFL gig? Or a coordinator in his first HC role? Change isnt always good people.[/quote]

Shanny should have not wasted our time with the Beck/Grossman year and the McNabb fiasco. It's his fault. Shannhan has had the worse Redskins defense ever and this year topped it off with the worse special teams ever period.(according to Darren Sharper on NFL network)

Re: Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach (Volume 2)
 

[quote=Gary84Clark;1051141]Is there anything we can do to help keep Shanny out the Hall of Fame?[/quote]

He already did that on his own.

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The mess he cleaned up? How about the mess he's created?

We're staring down 3 and effing 13 and his hands are clean and it's all on the "diva" QB?

WTF?!

Re: Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach (Volume 2)
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1051146]All this Shanahan hate is out of control. Its so easy to forget that he is the one who cleaned up all the mess and dysfunction Cerrato and Snyder created.

Fletcher, whos retiring, publically lobbied for Shanahan to stay, and said 95% of the players on the team wanted him to come back. If Shanahan were a bad coach, or the team felt that HE was responsible for the current messy situation, they wouldnt be saying that. Ultimately, theres a pissing match going on between the coach and a diva QB. Fletchers comments indicate the players Side with their coach, not the Diva.... yet, so many of you want to rally behind the Diva - the source of the teams problems - and throw the coach away? Explain that to me please.

Also explain this to me - if RG3 can do this to Shanahan, a well respected, established Head Coach... how on earth do you think things will be better with a college coach in his first NFL gig? Or a coordinator in his first HC role? Change isnt always good people.[/quote]

K, Here we go. I was a big Shanahan advocate, and publically lobbied for him to stay not long ago... but you have to look at the body of work.
[LIST][*]John Beck fiasco[*]Donovan McNabb fiasco (traded a 2nd rnd pick)[*]Josh LeReibus (3rd rnd pick, bust)[*]Jamall Brown (traded for a mid rnd pick)[*][B]Keeping RG3 in the game, injuring your Franchise QB, potentially ruining his career here in Washington. Great call Mike. [/B][*][B]5-11, 6-10, and 3-11 (so far) seasons. [/B][*]Leaking stories to the media[*]Atrocious special teams this year[*]Josh Morgan sucks[/LIST]

There's much more, but that's the first stuff I thought of just now. I don't care if you're Bill effin Bellicheck and all of your cap space is taken away and you can't sign anyone to any contracts but veteran min, this record speaks for itself.

This isn't the same as firing Shottenheimer, or Spurrier, or Zorn... this isn't a knee jerk reaction based on a terrible previous move. This was Snyder sitting back, letting him do the work, be the boss...and it's blown up right in his face. Patience has been exercised... and the logical, rational, diligent move is to move on.

It's time to finally try something so incredible obvious, it hurts that we haven't done it. Copy the formula of a winning franchise.

Hire a true GM, and give him full control of all the personnel operations. Hire a coach- one that isn't a re-tread... but someone hungry and to win a Superbowl. Change the culture in Washington, eliminate the circus, and stop trading away high draft picks.

Re: Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach (Volume 2)
 

[quote=Mattyk;1051159][B]The mess he cleaned up? [/B] How about the mess he's created?

We're staring down 3 and effing 13 and his hands are clean and it's all on the "diva" QB?

WTF?![/quote]

I pretty much stop reading the post after the first sentence. its trolling at this point

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I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this name but I hope the Redskins look at Mike Pettine, the defensive coordinator of the Bills. He has a pretty good track record and seems to change his scheme to accommodate his players. Also went to UVA, just as a side note.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1051153]I think you don't know how to get rid of things that serve no purpose anymore, and progress[/quote]

Sure I do. I'd get rid of The diva quarterback and keep the hall of game coach.

Re: Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach (Volume 2)
 

[quote=SmootSmack;1051154]So you just choose to ignore the things London has said about Rob? Ok[/quote]

Has he said 95% of the players love Robert? I must have missed that.