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Skins4L 12-13-2013 04:01 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday
 
next year when dude goes off ill keep in mind nobody had our boys back. when hes shitting on defenses again. no qb in the nfl has MORE overall talent than 3. bunch of shanahans in here.

Skins4L 12-13-2013 04:04 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday
 
[quote=FRPLG;1048650]I simply don't agree its the right decision. Coach the kid. Work on the gameplan to focus on what he needs to improve. What does he learn on the sideline in 3 games? Not much. It appears his biggest issue right now is his confidence. Coach him and put him in a position to build back the confidence.[/quote]

yup

KI Skins Fan 12-13-2013 08:06 AM

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Is it true that Snyder was the impetus behind the trade that landed RGIII?

If so, that explains alot.

MTK 12-13-2013 08:15 AM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1048660]Is it true that Snyder was the impetus behind the trade that landed RGIII?

If so, that explains alot.[/quote]

Shanny would have shot that down easily if he wasn't on board.

BaltimoreSkins 12-13-2013 08:16 AM

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[quote=Mechanix544;1048580]Shanahan is a genius and he is never wrong about quarterbacks!!!

“Let me say, when John Beck did come out [of college], I had him rated as the top quarterback coming out that year, and I didn’t even think it was close,” said Shanahan, who traded with Baltimore last August to get Beck. “I had a lot of confidence in John Beck when he came out in 2007. I evaluate the quarterbacks every year, and I do have confidence in John Beck. He was by far my No. 1 guy. I think the world of him.”

Shanahan has won one playoff victory in 14 years. Jesus fucking christ can we move on from this overrated self absorbed know it all? He fucking sucks now, and just cause he got lucky drafting running backs in the 6th and 7th round, everyone thinks he is a genius. If he was such a fucking genius, then why risk losing a stud like TD and ALF by letting 31 teams have them up for grabs for 6 straight rounds? [B]He rode Elway to two superbowls[/B], and after he retired, NOTHING. NOTHING, no postseason success, not even an AFC divisional game. Why the fuck is it so hard to see that this guy fucking sucks?[/quote]

In fairness Elway did the same thing. He struck out until Shanny came along. Looking at the winning percentages without each other though Shanny benefited more from Elway than Elway did with Shanny.

skinsfaninok 12-13-2013 08:16 AM

Well he is the owner I mean he wants to draft a guy that will bring in tons of $$$

Gary84Clark 12-13-2013 08:26 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1048660]Is it true that Snyder was the impetus behind the trade that landed RGIII?

If so, that explains alot.[/quote]

Well I disagree, Shannahan has the last say on acquiring players. If Shannahan didn't go along with it, it would have been a contract dispute. Shannahan is proving to me he takes his power defined for him in his contract seriously.

MTK 12-13-2013 08:28 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday
 
[quote=Gary84Clark;1048667]Well I disagree, Shannahan has the last say on acquiring players. If Shannahan didn't go along with it, it would have been a contract dispute. Shannahan is proving to me he takes his power defined for him in his contract seriously.[/quote]

Shanny is a complete control and power freak. There's just no way he would have let Snyder force a huge decision like that on him. Zero chance.

Skins4L 12-13-2013 08:29 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday
 
if Kirk looks like Brady this weekend ill say fine good move. but if he stinks it up just like rg in this system with the morale so low it lowers his stock and demoralizes our other player. if we were gonna switch to cousins why not just finish with rg anyway and have cousins come out the winner of a training camp battle if they felt like he was the better player. more will come to light after sunday because if kirk kills it out there and we win, now its a whole new monster. i think shanahan wants that. im not sure what to think.

KI Skins Fan 12-13-2013 08:30 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday
 
[quote=Skins4L;1048652]next year when dude goes off ill keep in mind [B]nobody had our boys back[/B]. when hes shitting on defenses again. no qb in the nfl has MORE overall talent than 3. bunch of shanahans in here.[/quote]

That's not entirely true. I do. So do others.

I only want RGIII to sit long enough for the Shanahans to get out of town so that Kyle won't have any more chances to do something stupid to get him reinjured. That is the bottom line.

When RGIII came out of college, I was most excited about the way he threw the long ball. He was one of the best at that that I've ever seen. Second, his arm strength. Third, his athleticism in terms of his ability to avoid the rush and make a potentially negative play into a positive one. Fourth, his great speed and running ability.

I never viewed him as a runner, per se, except on rollouts and occaisional QB draws or read option plays, just to keep the defense honest.

Here's what has happened to him this year: First of all, he's not fully recovered from his knee injury. Second, he has had to deal with very poor pass protection. Third, his receivers are not getting open on a consistent basis.

Also, he is only in his second year and he is learning to become a pocket passer in the NFL. With his intelligence and drive, I don't know how anyone could doubt his ability to learn his trade very well. I think he will come back strong next season.

BaltimoreSkins 12-13-2013 08:34 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday
 
I think that we have to be careful about an perceived "success" Kirk will have this weekend. I am willing to bet that the running game makes an appearance this weekend.

KI Skins Fan 12-13-2013 08:40 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday
 
[quote=Skins4L;1048669]if Kirk looks like Brady this weekend ill say fine good move. but if he stinks it up just like rg in this system with the morale so low it lowers his stock and demoralizes our other player. if we were gonna switch to cousins why not just finish with rg anyway and have cousins come out the winner of a training camp battle if they felt like he was the better player. more will come to light after sunday because if kirk kills it out there and we win, now its a whole new monster. i think shanahan wants that. im not sure what to think.[/quote]

How is Kirk going to be able to look like Brady with pass rushers all over him as he tries to throw to receivers who aren't open?

I think this team has quit and that poor Kirk is going to take a beating.

On the other hand, if Kirk manages to play well under the current circumstances, then we've got something. I don't know why anyone would be worried about Kirk playing well stirring up a QB controversy. I could only be a good thing to have two good young QB's.

BTW, who cares what Shanahan wants? He's as good as gone.

BaltimoreSkins 12-13-2013 08:42 AM

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^ seriously a QB controversy is the least of our concerns.

Gary84Clark 12-13-2013 08:43 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1048670]That's not entirely true. I do. So do others.

I only want RGIII to sit long enough for the Shanahans to get out of town so that Kyle won't have any more chances to do something stupid to get him reinjured. That is the bottom line.

When RGIII came out of college, I was most excited about the way he threw the long ball. He was one of the best at that that I've ever seen. Second, his arm strength. Third, his athleticism in terms of his ability to avoid the rush and make a potentially negative play into a positive one. Fourth, his great speed and running ability.

I never viewed him as a runner, per se, except on rollouts and occaisional QB draws or read option plays, just to keep the defense honest.

Here's what has happened to him this year: First of all, he's not fully recovered from his knee injury. Second, he has had to deal with very poor pass protection. Third, his receivers are not getting open on a consistent basis.

Also, he is only in his second year and he is learning to become a pocket passer in the NFL. With his intelligence and drive, I don't know how anyone could doubt his ability to learn his trade very well. I think he will come back strong next season.[/quote]

I agree totally. I want to see RG3 play but I don't trust him wiht this lame duck regime.

skinsguy 12-13-2013 08:44 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday
 
[quote=Mattyk;1048661]Shanny would have shot that down easily if he wasn't on board.[/quote]

This is true. Mike Shanahan is pretty much the coach/GM/VP (not for long I hope.) He's one of the first coaches since Marty to have complete control.


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