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Agree but was way better than this shit. Idk what it will take to make us a good team again it sucks. Someone posted yesterday how we were like 70 games over 500 20 years ago and now we r like 11? Holy shit that's sad

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1098357]I don't know, i think it is kind of funny[/quote]

I thought so, too. The person they really gave the finger to was Snyder, who pushed for the trade. Hopefully Dan will learn from his humiliation.

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If you're not winning games might as well take pride in "winning" a trade I guess. Though I'm not sure how a trade can be won if it's not resulting in wins on the field.

Sounds like it's a beef between Allen and Fisher to be specific.

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Well, fine. Let Allen learn from his humiliation not to allow such trades to happen.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1098398]Agree but was way better than this shit. Idk what it will take to make us a good team again it sucks. Someone posted yesterday how we were like 70 games over 500 20 years ago and now we r like 11? Holy shit that's sad[/quote]

Way better? Do you remember the mid 90s at all? We've been a consistent loser since Gibbs 1.0.

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Man, I've been a Redskins fan forever and never missed a play. Watched the whole game again today, but if something doesn't change soon and the Redskins I fell in love with don't come back. I don't know how much more of this I can take, because this is not a Redskins football team. This is a joke.

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Although if we could get a proven winner and a coach who KNOWS what type of atmosphere they're entering into once they set foot in Redskins Park and what they're working with, I would not be opposed to ousting him.[/quote]


......you mean like Mike Shanahan?

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[quote=NC_Skins;1097021]Fire the coach after one year??? You want to know why the Redskins are a perpetual cluster fuck? It's because Dan Snyder is just like some of you guys. In a way, you both deserve each other.[/quote]


You don't stick with a failing investment, you dump it and cut your losses.

We aren't going to see any return on Gruden, next season we'll be in a similar position and people such as yourself will be saying we need to give him another season.

How many seasons must we waste?

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1098351]Seems to me the more reason for Gruden to make RG3 work.[/QUOTE]


If it were only that easy....,


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[QUOTE=Avinash_Tyagi;1098484]You don't stick with a failing investment, you dump it and cut your losses.



We aren't going to see any return on Gruden, next season we'll be in a similar position and people such as yourself will be saying we need to give him another season.



How many seasons must we waste?[/QUOTE]


Maybe next season will be, but I dont think it is possible to adress the horrid oline, horrid db's, and a qb in one offseason.


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Re: The everything Gruden thread
 

[quote=Avinash_Tyagi;1098484]You don't stick with a failing investment, you dump it and cut your losses.

We aren't going to see any return on Gruden, next season we'll be in a similar position and people such as yourself will be saying we need to give him another season.

How many seasons must we waste?[/quote]

I think you have to give him another year. Like you said it is about the investment made. According to some in the local media the clubhouse is more optimistic this year than they were last year despite the same record thus far. Of course that could've changed after yesterday. I do not envy Gruden's position.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1098492]I think you have to give him another year. Like you said it is about the investment made. According to some in the local media the clubhouse is more optimistic this year than they were last year despite the same record thus far. Of course that could've changed after yesterday. I do not envy Gruden's position.[/quote]

I dont envy JG's position either. He is the head coach of the worst run organization in the NFL. That said he knew he was signing on to work in this mess so it comes with the territory.

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2 weeks ago, i would have been a 5 or a high 4 on this, but right now, with 3 division games left, and terrible losses to Tampa, and the Rams (I know they are good, but we shouldn't be THAT bad), and not seeing much from team leaders - I don't even know what players might be considered leaders at this point. I am at a sinking 3, I want to give him another year, but my biggest problem, is that it's not like we haven't known that RT and Safeties were an issue, and we didn't address them effectively. (I was on the Morgan Moses bandwagon, so at the time, I thought that was a solid pick, not sure where he fits now.)

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I honestly don't know. I still think the team is no better off if they fire Gruden after one season, but I'm starting to feel they're no better off keeping him either. Which means the changes need to happen in the front office first.

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[quote=Mattyk;1098407]Way better? Do you remember the mid 90s at all? We've been a consistent loser since Gibbs 1.0.[/quote]

Have people already forgotten the glorious Steve Spurrier/Shane Matthews era?