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sdskinsfan2001 03-09-2022 09:48 AM

Re: 2022 veteran QB options
 
[quote=MTK;1312133]Love looked terrible in limited action last year. Definitely wouldn't give up anything better than a 5th for him. I'd rather go with a more established vet like Winston or Mariota.[/quote]

Fingers and toes crossed that we go for the veteran/draft pick combo. No picks given up for any current realistic veteran option.

We need it.

Vet/Rookie/Heinicke or Allen

This is what I hope we have heading into training camp.

MTK 03-09-2022 09:49 AM

Re: 2022 veteran QB options
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1312135]He did look bad but it was half of a game? Mitch played for 2 seasons and didn't show anything.. I'd take Winston over both but who is to say the Saints won't re-sign him? Or that he would even come to WSH[/quote]

He played in 6 games, started 1, and did nothing to impress. Not saying case is closed on him, but he didn't look good at all

[url]https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LoveJo03/gamelog/2021/[/url]

sdskinsfan2001 03-09-2022 09:52 AM

Re: 2022 veteran QB options
 
[quote=MTK;1312137]He played in 6 games, started 1, and did nothing to impress. Not saying case is closed on him, but he didn't look good at all

[url]https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LoveJo03/gamelog/2021/[/url][/quote]

Definitely can't give up more than a ham sandwich for him. He is now halfway through his contract too. So even if it worked out somewhat, you would have to make a decision on a fat contract too soon.

I'd pass on Love.

punch it in 03-09-2022 09:57 AM

Re: 2022 veteran QB options
 
[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1312126]He’s played one game in 3 years backing up Rogers. He would be better than anything coming out of the draft and has 3’years experience. I would offer a 4th or 3rd.[/QUOTE]


He “might” be better than anything coming out of this years draft. Just because he is backing up Rodgers doesn’t mean he should or would be starting anywhere else. I mean he went 28th in the draft. Who knows. Id give up a fourth for him though.

MTK 03-09-2022 09:57 AM

Re: 2022 veteran QB options
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1312125]It wasn't necessarily JP, but Mitch (who I like) said something along the lines of "we have Heinecke who could be traded" in response to Denver trading Lock. They've been building up the potential disappointment of not getting Wilson, and I get that they are fans too, but they more or less dismissed the notion that Seattle wasn't trading Wilson to an NFC team.

There are reports from credible folks that Seattle was not going to trade Russ to an NFC team. And this is reinforced by the fact that Philly was in the hunt and they have 3 first rounders this year, even two of them is a better offer than what Denver offered in terms of picks.

Any reporter that keeps banging the "Russ didn't pick us" is just looking for clicks and rile up the fan base IMO.[/quote]

Had to stop listening to that podcast a while ago, back when the pandemic first hit and the audio quality was always so terrible, like JP was calling in from a 3rd world country on a flip phone. Their schtick is somewhat amusing, but their analysis doesn't offer much IMO. Likable guys but I just got tired of that pod.

punch it in 03-09-2022 09:59 AM

Re: 2022 veteran QB options
 
[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1312139]Definitely can't give up more than a ham sandwich for him. He is now halfway through his contract too. So even if it worked out somewhat, you would have to make a decision on a fat contract too soon.

I'd pass on Love.[/QUOTE]


This is a good point. He is gonna be coming up on a contract year. Yeah pass. I aint giving up crap for Love.

sdskinsfan2001 03-09-2022 10:07 AM

Re: 2022 veteran QB options
 
[quote=punch it in;1312145][B]This is a good point.[/B] He is gonna be coming up on a contract year. Yeah pass. I aint giving up crap for Love.[/quote]

I'm like a broken clock, I am right about twice per day (wrong all the other times).

Love didn't make sense to me when GB picked him, and he doesn't make sense for us now imo.

Definite pass for me.

Chief X_Phackter 03-09-2022 10:45 AM

Re: 2022 veteran QB options
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1312135]He did look bad but it was half of a game? [B]Mitch played for 2 seasons and didn't show anything[/B].. I'd take Winston over both but who is to say the Saints won't re-sign him? Or that he would even come to WSH[/quote]

That is simply incorrect. He didn't have a lot of experience coming out of college, but he has all the tools, a decisively winning record as a starter, and two playoff appearances in the NFL. And no, it wasn't only the Bears defense that provided that success. Yes, that played a part, but just like almost every other QB that has success - it is partially because of the team around him.

Honestly, I'd be fine with Winston or Trubisky since we are on to sloppy seconds...but I would prefer MT between the two.

No to Love.

No to Garappolo.

No to Watson (unless he's miraculously cleared - but you can't wait for that...)

No to trading up in the draft.

SunnySide 03-09-2022 10:58 AM

Re: 2022 veteran QB options
 
Last offseason we signed Fitz before the draft. Who knows if we would have traded up for Mac Jones when he dropped if we hadnt done that.

FA starts March 16, draft April 28.

I wish it was switched and we got to see the drat play out first to see if Willis or some we like is there and then have FA after.

I would guess if we sign a Trubisky or Winston, wed still take a QB at 11 if we liked them.

edit ..

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33460685/sources-new-york-giants-expected-make-run-qb-mitchell-trubisky[/url]

Vagiants rumored to make a run at Trubisky .. Id take Daniel Jones for a conditional 5th, 3rd if he starts 12 or more games.

BaltimoreSkins 03-09-2022 11:24 AM

Re: 2022 veteran QB options
 
When LaFleur was asked why risk injury to Rodgers toe and not play Love late in the season to get a better look he said I have seen enough of him playing. That is a pretty sound indictment to me.

skinsfaninok 03-09-2022 11:44 AM

Re: 2022 veteran QB options
 
[quote=SunnySide;1312154]Last offseason we signed Fitz before the draft. Who knows if we would have traded up for Mac Jones when he dropped if we hadnt done that.

FA starts March 16, draft April 28.

I wish it was switched and we got to see the drat play out first to see if Willis or some we like is there and then have FA after.

I would guess if we sign a Trubisky or Winston, wed still take a QB at 11 if we liked them.

edit ..

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33460685/sources-new-york-giants-expected-make-run-qb-mitchell-trubisky[/url]

Vagiants rumored to make a run at Trubisky .. Id take Daniel Jones for a conditional 5th, 3rd if he starts 12 or more games.[/quote]

Brain Daboll loves Mitch, that will happen.

Also I agree, the draft should be before FA

mredskins 03-09-2022 11:48 AM

Re: 2022 veteran QB options
 
[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1312156]When LaFleur was asked why risk injury to Rodgers toe and not play Love late in the season to get a better look he said I have seen enough of him playing. That is a pretty sound indictment to me.[/quote]

Jordan Love is not good, only thing that put him on the map was Packers reaching for him with a 1st and Rogers getting mad it wasn't spent on a WR.

Overall bad pick by GB lets not reward their mistake by giving them anything for him.

KI Skins Fan 03-09-2022 11:56 AM

Re: 2022 veteran QB options
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1312136]Fingers and toes crossed that we go for the veteran/draft pick combo. No picks given up for any current realistic veteran option.

We need it.

Vet/Rookie/Heinicke or Allen

This is what I hope we have heading into training camp.[/quote]

This may end up being the smart way to address the QB position as long as our bridge QB comes to us as a FA. I think we may need need to move up from #11 to get the rookie QB we want. The so-called experts seem to be undervaluing the current QB crop as well as neglecting to apply the appropriate draft premium to the QB position when doing their mock drafts.

sdskinsfan2001 03-09-2022 12:11 PM

Re: 2022 veteran QB options
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1312160]This may end up being the smart way to address the QB position as long as our bridge QB comes to us as a FA. [B]I think we may need need to move up from #11 to get the rookie QB we want[/B]. The so-called experts seem to be undervaluing the current QB crop as well as neglecting to apply the appropriate draft premium to the QB position when doing their mock drafts.[/quote]

Agreed.

I will be happy if we get a QB in the 1st by any means necessary. Up, standing still, down, don't care, just get someone.

Let's just take another swing.

jamf 03-09-2022 12:17 PM

Re: 2022 veteran QB options
 
[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1312156]When LaFleur was asked why risk injury to Rodgers toe and not play Love late in the season to get a better look he said I have seen enough of him playing. That is a pretty sound indictment to me.[/quote]

I'm not sure I agree with your logic here.

The one thing we know for sure is he isn't as good as Rodgers, no one is right now.
Rodgers is the franchise. What do you need to see from Love?

If he sucks, get rid of him. You got Rodgers, you don't need to keep Love around and it would boost Rodgers delicate ego.

If Love lights it up, then you raise his value and you put out game film.
Also, Pussy ass bitch Rodgers goes full Karen on one of his podcasts.

If you have a good backup to a superstar QB, you try to keep him locked away just in case.


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