Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1161349][quote=htownskinfan;1161298]

Do you mean the Dallas game where he couldn't get the ball to the wr's downfield? Did you also forget about the other games he played in that year? Then he got hurt. Bottom line is if McCoy was better than KC he'd be on the field. The coaches.. Gruden, McVay, Cavanaugh see them up close everyday. They know more than we do. If McCoy was a starting caliber QB another team would have signed him. He's a great backup QB, not a 16 game starter.

And what he did in college doesn't mean anything at this point.[/quote]

The same coaches who had Jones in at running back, or Burton at safety. Ok I hear you!

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[QUOTE=Michaelt31;1161376][quote=skinsfan69;1161349]



The same coaches who had Jones in at running back, or Burton at safety. Ok I hear you![/QUOTE]



Are you saying that they should have put Colt on the field this year?

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=OmahaRedskins;1161273]I am still amazed at all of the HATE for KC. The best QB since Brad Johnson or Mark Rypien and half of the fan base wants to run him out of town.[/quote]

How many fans were applauding Brad Johnson getting run out of town?:mad:
And then still trash him when he helped lead Tampa Bay to their only Superbowl? :(

It's seems whenever The Skins have a good QB a lot fans don't see it.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=Michaelt31;1161376]

The same coaches who had Jones in at running back, or Burton at safety. Ok I hear you![/quote]

Don't forget the same coaches who benched both of those players after they realized they had better options. Also I assume you are talking about David Bruton, not Burton.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=Bishop Hammer;1161391]How many fans were applauding Brad Johnson getting run out of town?:mad:
And then still trash him when he helped lead Tampa Bay to their only Superbowl? :(

[B]It's seems whenever The Skins have a good QB a lot fans don't see it[/B].[/quote]

Truth. It's like we're so many years removed from McNabb/Beck/Grossman/bad Kirk/Colt that they have forgotten what truly terrible quarterbacking is.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=punch it in;1161333]I do not think he is bitter about the RG-3 situation. Lets face it. Griff was the number two pick, and he was the roy. He has to understand that you do not just give up on that after year one?
I think Kirk certainly plays with a chip on his shoulder, but that is a good thing.[/quote]

I'm not saying he's bitter about the RG3 situation. However, once it was shown that Robert couldn't play so well, it was lil Danny that made Gruden start RG3 instead of having competition. (which is what Kirk wanted) Dan and Bruce have been very hesitant about Cousins, and he was nearly traded due to their hesitation. I think even SS has mention that Snyder wasn't a big fan of Cousins, which is probably why Cousins wants to stick it to him when it comes to this contract. Some guys want to play here, but it's obvious to Kirk that he doesn't give a shit, and has made it about the money and respect at this point. Danny and Bruce still aren't sold on him.

[url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washington-redskins/ex-agent-redskins-still-doubt-kirk-cousins-which-will-affect-his-next-contract?utm_content=buffer51a8e&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer]Ex-agent: Redskins still doubt Kirk Cousins, which could affect his next deal | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url]

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=hutch17;1161345]I think they will use the non-exclusive or transition tag on him. That will cost less and is someone takes him we get two first round picks.[/quote]

I want to hear more about this option.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=hutch17;1161345]I think they will use the non-exclusive or transition tag on him. That will cost less and is someone takes him we get two first round picks.[/quote]

No. They'll use the exclusive Franchise tag and nothing else. The reason being is another team could devise a contract with a poison pill that we wouldn't be able to match if we wanted to. While I'm reserved about handing Kirk a shit ton of cash, I think it would be even more foolish to let him walk for two first rounders. Very foolish. Do you know how bad this team would have been if not for the QB play?


[quote=FWD Skins;1161399]I want to hear more about this option.[/quote]


No you don't because it's not an option.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=HTTR;1161367]We should be able to critique (positive and negative) a player's performance, demeanor, and leadership skills without being called haters. We all agree that KC turned out to be the true NFL starter as between him and RG3. (And don't think he didn't know it and developed a little chip on his shoulder -- that's the mark of a competitor.)

But here we are, facing another decision point, trying to understand what our FO thinks and plans to do. It's a great discussion. Personally, I'm in the try to sign him at 20m camp, understanding that it might take 22-23. Easy to say, but what if he demands 26? That's the crux of this argument.

That 20-22 range says that there are legitimate reservations about KC, and those of you who say "trust the front office" on a whole range of personnel matters should also trust them here. They have some concerns about signing him at 25-27, and so should we. That doesn't make them or us haters.

Here are my concerns. I have no idea whether this is what the FO is thinking.

His skills as a QB, which are top notch, are not matched by that intangible passion-driven thing that the elite QBs have. KIrk was having a much better year than Cam when we played the Panthers. But Cam, even dinged, willed himself to a great performance while Kirk was so-so. Cam is anything but a "consummate professional," but I want Kirk to have some of what Cam has.

If you listen to Kirk's interviews on Grant and Danny after games, he is oddly dispassionate. I have always liked this about him -- he keeps his cool, he doesn't whine about other players, doesn't get down on himself, etc. But when you think about this in terms of leadership disposition, my radar is catching a little static. I wouldn't care about this much for any position other than QB.

This doesn't mean he isn't a worthy franchise QB. But it should concern us that the most important guy on the team, the biggest cap hit on the team, however talented, may not have that "FU, I'm taking this game over" in his gut. Garçon showed this on Sunday. Kirk did not.

I'm not a Kirk hater. But I'm old enough to remember legions of less talented Skins who thrived in the spotlight. Kirk's stats show that he has the talent, no argument there. I don't know if he has the steel to be truly elite. I'm willing to pay to find out -- the viable options are bleak -- but let's admit the risks involved.[/quote]

This is a really terrific post.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=HTTR;1161367]If you listen to Kirk's interviews on Grant and Danny after games, he is oddly dispassionate. I have always liked this about him -- he keeps his cool, he doesn't whine about other players, doesn't get down on himself, etc. But when you think about this in terms of leadership disposition, my radar is catching a little static. I wouldn't care about this much for any position other than QB.

This doesn't mean he isn't a worthy franchise QB. But it should concern us that the most important guy on the team, the biggest cap hit on the team, however talented, may not have that "FU, I'm taking this game over" in his gut. Garçon showed this on Sunday. Kirk did not. [/quote]


Agree with Schneed. Quality post you had good sir, and I especially appreciate this part because it's exactly how I feel. You don't see that passion in him like you do others. I hate to compare any QB to Brady, but the one thing I have always admired about Brady is his fire and passion for the game. I think it's a big reason guys love playing with him, and you note in the below video the guy runs across the field all the way to the endzone after Edleman runs a punt return back. I see this same kind of fire in Phillip Rivers as well and with Drew Brees. I just don't see it in Cousins.

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Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=Schneed10;1161401]This is a really terrific post.[/quote]

Thank you for bringing that to my attention. Great post HTTR. I am also apprehensive at bringing him in for anything more than 25 mil a year, so hopefully we can get a deal done at 22-23 and we will all be satisfied. I really would hate to see what happens if Kirk demands 26 and up. Because our hands are tied, either we get fucked on a solid qb option or we give in and we fuck the rest of the team with a Flacco-type deal.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=mooby;1161410]Thank you for bringing that to my attention. Great post HTTR. I am also apprehensive at bringing him in for anything more than 25 mil a year, so hopefully we can get a deal done at 22-23 and we will all be satisfied. I really would hate to see what happens if Kirk demands 26 and up. Because our hands are tied, either we get fucked on a solid qb option or we give in and we fuck the rest of the team with a Flacco-type deal.[/quote]

As much as I'd like to keep Cousins, if he expects nothing less than $26M a year and there's another team willing to pay him that, then I'd have to say bye. There's a fine line between setting your team back a year or so in order to get (hopefully) another young, talented quarterback, and then there's a setting your team back five or six years because you have a solid franchise quarterback but can't afford to finish building a solid defense or keeping the quarterback's weapons signed.

Honestly, if he winds up being too rich for the 'skins blood, I would be willing to let him walk and resign both Jackson and Garcon.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=NC_Skins;1161408]Agree with Schneed. Quality post you had good sir, and I especially appreciate this part because it's exactly how I feel. You don't see that passion in him like you do others. I hate to compare any QB to Brady, but the one thing I have always admired about Brady is his fire and passion for the game. I think it's a big reason guys love playing with him, and you note in the below video the guy runs across the field all the way to the endzone after Edleman runs a punt return back. I see this same kind of fire in Phillip Rivers as well and with Drew Brees. I just don't see it in Cousins.

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I don't know that I agree with you all. Maybe we are thinking about different things, but he seems to get jacked up for games, hence the silly tunnel outbursts. I like seeing a QB that gets hyped for the game, but is calm before he hits the podium.

That said, I think there are times when his sense of urgency leads him to make mental errors rather then give him the killer instinct, and I think that is the biggest question mark I have with him now. Can he win big games for us by willing a perfect drive? Eli can do it (and I don't think he is a great QB), and he has taken his team to the promise land.

Recently, I was all for signing him long term, but after Sunday, I think I'm starting to lean toward franchising him again. It would probably really piss him off, but let's be real guy, if you choke with the playoffs on the line there are going to be ??? So if you aren't willing to take a reasonable contract, then it is you forcing the franchise tag and taking the risk.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=NC_Skins;1161408]Agree with Schneed. Quality post you had good sir, and I especially appreciate this part because it's exactly how I feel. You don't see that passion in him like you do others. I hate to compare any QB to Brady, but the one thing I have always admired about Brady is his fire and passion for the game. I think it's a big reason guys love playing with him, and you note in the below video the guy runs across the field all the way to the endzone after Edleman runs a punt return back. I see this same kind of fire in Phillip Rivers as well and with Drew Brees. I just don't see it in Cousins.[/quote]

Now we're starting to go off the deep end. You don't think he's got passion? You like that? How you like me now? The way he sprints down the field to congratulate someone on a TD?

Come on man.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/media-gallery/videos/NFL-Sound-FX---Kirk-Cousins-Versus-Packers/ff2a173e-fd39-480d-9852-5a1943456ed5]NFL: 'Sound FX' - Kirk Cousins Versus Packers[/url]

[url=http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0ap3000000608302/Sound-FX-Kirk-Cousins]'Sound FX': Kirk Cousins - NFL Videos[/url]

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=NC_Skins;1161408]Agree with Schneed. Quality post you had good sir, and I especially appreciate this part because it's exactly how I feel. You don't see that passion in him like you do others. I hate to compare any QB to Brady, but the one thing I have always admired about Brady is his fire and passion for the game. I think it's a big reason guys love playing with him, and you note in the below video the guy runs across the field all the way to the endzone after Edleman runs a punt return back. I see this same kind of fire in Phillip Rivers as well and with Drew Brees. I just don't see it in Cousins.

[/quote]

I also agree with your overall point NC but I think you chose a bad example. I see Kirk running down the field a lot when somebody makes a big play for a touchdown. I can't see that I've seen it on non-offensive plays, but then again we don't really score too many touchdowns on defense or special teams so what sample size do we have to work with. But I do agree that Kirk doesn't have that edge that Brady/Brees/Rivers has, aka that will to completely take over and dominate a game. I believe that's partially due to his penchant for turnovers when he gets too aggressive, he's probably been taught that he is at his best when he remains calm and stays within himself.

Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[QUOTE=MTK;1161426]Now we're starting to go off the deep end. You don't think he's got passion? You like that? How you like me now? The way he sprints down the field to congratulate someone on a TD?



Come on man.



[url=http://www.redskins.com/media-gallery/videos/NFL-Sound-FX---Kirk-Cousins-Versus-Packers/ff2a173e-fd39-480d-9852-5a1943456ed5]NFL: 'Sound FX' - Kirk Cousins Versus Packers[/url]



[url=http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0ap3000000608302/Sound-FX-Kirk-Cousins]'Sound FX': Kirk Cousins - NFL Videos[/url][/QUOTE]



He does have passion, but he doesn't harness it to play well. If anything, he works too hard to control his passion during big games, and comes out playing as though he's a diminished version of himself. After a good performance, he blurts it all out in a cute, nerdy way. Maybe that's passion, or maybe that's popping the cork on bottled up passion. Whatever it is, it isn't the same thing as melding your own passion with external pressure to produce an elevated result. How people perform in situations like Sunday's is revealing, unless you're a pure stat-hound.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=metalskins;1161423]As much as I'd like to keep Cousins, if he expects nothing less than $26M a year and there's another team willing to pay him that, then I'd have to say bye. There's a fine line between setting your team back a year or so in order to get (hopefully) another young, talented quarterback, and then there's a setting your team back five or six years because you have a solid franchise quarterback but can't afford to finish building a solid defense or keeping the quarterback's weapons signed.

Honestly, if he winds up being too rich for the 'skins blood, I would be willing to let him walk and resign both Jackson and Garcon.[/quote]

I agree. But getting Cousins done will be a first priority, then everything will fall in line after that. So if he decides to move on (highly doubtful, I'm positive he will be re-tagged if no deal is reached) then Jackson would probably move on too. Hell, Jackson is probably moving on anyways if the reports from Brandon Graham are true.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=Buffalo Bob;1161368]Just passing on what I heard on ESPN 980 radio just now. Riggins was on and not sure of who the other guys were, they all seem to agree that Cousins will go for the "money grab" and won't give the Redskins any discounts. For various reasons he doesn't feel appreciated, and thinks he was always better than RG3 and never should have sat behind him.[/quote]

"I'm not trying to suck out every dollar possible. That's not the kind of guy I am or how I’m going to approach it," he said. "I understand, like Scot McCloughan and Jay Gruden, it’s all about winning football games."

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washington-redskins/kirk-cousins-contract-talks-im-not-trying-suck-out-every-dollar-possible]Kirk Cousins on contract talks: 'I'm not trying to suck out every dollar possible' | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url]

here is the interview

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

We are just getting silly now about KC. The guy is not the problem of this team. The only question in regards to KC is do we have to pay him so much that we can't put anyone else around him to help him win. That is the million dollar question in regards to KC.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

I think you have to resign him, just worried he is Tony Romo 2.0. We've all seen Romo puke all over himself in big games. Kirk's emotions make him worse in big situations not better. He had 2 of his worst games of the year in the last 3 must win games. He isn't Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady, but he is about to get PAID like he is. So we have every right to hold him to those expectations.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=Ruhskins;1161371]I don't expect discounts and any player is going to go for the money. Still, I feel Cousins lost a lot of bargaining chips by laying a turd in the biggest game of the year. IMO, he deserves Andy Dalton money. I hope the doesn't expect Russell Wilson money.

I just hopes he goes into this negotiation with a sense of a reality.[/quote]

Dalton money will never get a deal done cause that contract was signed several years ago. Sometimes you have to overpay to keep a guy, just like some guys are underpaid.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Here's 20+ reasons why I want the skins to resign Cousins. Its the economy (stability)stupid
1994 Heath Shuler 8 John Friesz 4 Gus Frerotte 2
1995 Gus Frerotte 11 Heath Shuler 5
1996 Gus Frerotte
1997 Gus Frerotte 13 Jeff Hostetler 3
1998 Trent Green 14 Gus Frerotte 2
1999 Brad Johnson
2000 Brad Johnson 11 Jeff George 5
2001 Tony Banks 14 Jeff George 2
2002 Shane Matthews 7 Patrick Ramsey 5 Danny Wuerffel 4
2003 Patrick Ramsey 11 Tim Hasselbeck 5
2004 Mark Brunell 9 Patrick Ramsey 7
2005 Mark Brunell 15 Patrick Ramsey 1
2006 Mark Brunell 9 Jason Campbell 7
2007 Jason Campbell 13 Todd Collins 3
2008 Jason Campbell
2009 Jason Campbell
2010 Donovan McNabb 13 Rex Grossman 3
2011 Rex Grossman 13 John Beck 3
2012 Robert Griffin 15
2013 Robert Griffin 13

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=MTK;1161426]Now we're starting to go off the deep end. You don't think he's got passion? You like that? How you like me now? The way he sprints down the field to congratulate someone on a TD?

Come on man.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/media-gallery/videos/NFL-Sound-FX---Kirk-Cousins-Versus-Packers/ff2a173e-fd39-480d-9852-5a1943456ed5]NFL: 'Sound FX' - Kirk Cousins Versus Packers[/url]

[url=http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0ap3000000608302/Sound-FX-Kirk-Cousins]'Sound FX': Kirk Cousins - NFL Videos[/url][/quote]


I never said he didn't have passion or a fire. Anybody playing in the NFL most likely has some form of passion/fire to direct that much time and effort into their craft. I want to see that fire and passion even when losing, not just when things are going right. I want to see that fire and passion in his play mostly. I did a bad job conveying my thoughts in regards to the passion/fire of Cousins.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=HTTR;1161432]He does have passion, but he doesn't harness it to play well. If anything, he works too hard to control his passion during big games, and comes out playing as though he's a diminished version of himself. After a good performance, he blurts it all out in a cute, nerdy way. Maybe that's passion, or maybe that's popping the cork on bottled up passion. Whatever it is, it isn't the same thing as melding your own passion with external pressure to produce an elevated result. How people perform in situations like Sunday's is revealing, unless you're a pure stat-hound.[/quote]

I did a poor job of conveying this message,. I never meant to imply that Kirk didn't have any passion.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=MTK;1161426]Now we're starting to go off the deep end. You don't think he's got passion? You like that? How you like me now? The way he sprints down the field to congratulate someone on a TD?

Come on man.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/media-gallery/videos/NFL-Sound-FX---Kirk-Cousins-Versus-Packers/ff2a173e-fd39-480d-9852-5a1943456ed5]NFL: 'Sound FX' - Kirk Cousins Versus Packers[/url]

[url=http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0ap3000000608302/Sound-FX-Kirk-Cousins]'Sound FX': Kirk Cousins - NFL Videos[/url][/quote]

Starting to go off the deep end? It went of the tracks in October.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=CrustyRedskin;1161445]Here's 20+ reasons why I want the skins to resign Cousins. Its the economy (stability)stupid
1994 Heath Shuler 8 John Friesz 4 Gus Frerotte 2
1995 Gus Frerotte 11 Heath Shuler 5
1996 Gus Frerotte
1997 Gus Frerotte 13 Jeff Hostetler 3
1998 Trent Green 14 Gus Frerotte 2
1999 Brad Johnson
2000 Brad Johnson 11 Jeff George 5
2001 Tony Banks 14 Jeff George 2
2002 Shane Matthews 7 Patrick Ramsey 5 Danny Wuerffel 4
2003 Patrick Ramsey 11 Tim Hasselbeck 5
2004 Mark Brunell 9 Patrick Ramsey 7
2005 Mark Brunell 15 Patrick Ramsey 1
2006 Mark Brunell 9 Jason Campbell 7
2007 Jason Campbell 13 Todd Collins 3
2008 Jason Campbell
2009 Jason Campbell
2010 Donovan McNabb 13 Rex Grossman 3
2011 Rex Grossman 13 John Beck 3
2012 Robert Griffin 15
2013 Robert Griffin 13[/quote]

/thread

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=metalskins;1161423]As much as I'd like to keep Cousins, if he expects nothing less than $26M a year and there's another team willing to pay him that, then I'd have to say bye. There's a fine line between setting your team back a year or so in order to get (hopefully) another young, talented quarterback, and then there's a setting your team back five or six years because you have a solid franchise quarterback but can't afford to finish building a solid defense or keeping the quarterback's weapons signed.

[B]Honestly, if he winds up being too rich for the 'skins blood, I would be willing to let him walk and resign both Jackson and Garcon[/B].[/quote]


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Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[QUOTE=MTK;1161426]Now we're starting to go off the deep end. You don't think he's got passion? You like that? How you like me now? The way he sprints down the field to congratulate someone on a TD?



Come on man.



[url=http://www.redskins.com/media-gallery/videos/NFL-Sound-FX---Kirk-Cousins-Versus-Packers/ff2a173e-fd39-480d-9852-5a1943456ed5]NFL: 'Sound FX' - Kirk Cousins Versus Packers[/url]



[url=http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0ap3000000608302/Sound-FX-Kirk-Cousins]'Sound FX': Kirk Cousins - NFL Videos[/url][/QUOTE]



Yeah he has passion. I agree. Ton of it. He is missing ice water in his veins. He has shown flashes of it, but he still shows shakiness at times. It is obviously 100% mental with him. All the physical tools are there. He could learn how to run when he has to but we know he has a deadly accurate arm. I always feel like he still cannot get over the fact he is starting for us. Still cannot believe it. He did spend a long time wondering if that day would ever come.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=punch it in;1161452]Yeah he has passion. I agree. Ton of it. He is missing ice water in his veins. He has shown flashes of it, but he still shows shakiness at times. It is obviously 100% mental with him. All the physical tools are there. He could learn how to run when he has to but we know he has a deadly accurate arm. I always feel like he still cannot get over the fact he is starting for us. Still cannot believe it. He did spend a long time wondering if that day would ever come.[/quote]

Agreed. He is ELITE in middling games.

BUT he gets flustered when he gets pressure / feels the rush. One or two sacks early tends to shake his confidence and he starts throwing check-downs instead of waiting for longer plays to develop.

And he still gets flustered in the biggest of games. Sure, he can make 4th quarter comebacks, and deliver like Matty Ice in mid-season 5-7 game win streaks. BUT he has not shown that level of Brady-steel in the last game of each season.

I personally think he'll be fine. Give him another season or two. Develop a run game to help in RZ / run out clock / develop play action. Develop a defense so we don't force the game on his shoulders. I think we'll like what we find if we have patience to avoid keep on going with the QB carousel. The best QB's have been around for years and know the system SO well they can audible or run the playbook at superbly high levels. If we ever want to see that, we should actually keep a QB more than 3 years.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

I think KC saw how the games were affecting his negotiations and that caused the problem. I believe once the contract situation is behind hiim he will relax into a multi year probowl talent. Remember the first 2 games there was a LOT of focus on KCs contract and then again after his 2nd Cowboys game. I say give him 6yrs 24m per year avg value an let him put football first.

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Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1161456]I think KC saw how the games were affecting his negotiations and that caused the problem. I believe once the contract situation is behind hiim he will relax into a multi year probowl talent. Remember the first 2 games there was a LOT of focus on KCs contract and then again after his 2nd Cowboys game. I say give him 6yrs 24m per year avg value an let him put football first.

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Great post. If he had a complete team around him I think he would relax and not feel like he has to win the game on every throw. He had next to no defense this year, no run game, and a field goal kicker that couldn't be counted on. Amazing that He / We had as much success as we did.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

This thread if not deleted/closed will reach 200 pages by 2017 week 1.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Cousins - just stop whining on the radio and STFU already.

Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Why in the hell do we get these qbs that are freaking head cases? Oh you don't feel love because the Redskins wanted RGIII to succeed over you. Boohoo. The Redskins gave you the opportunity to be able to make all this money and helped develop you as a player. My god, stop acting like a bitch and instead of being upset at the Redskins - just use this crap to motivate you to work hard at your craft. Couldn't wait to get on the radio and talk about your contract after a poor performance that helped kill the playoffs opportunity. Where's your priority? Your contract or freaking winning games?

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

I swear I've never heard a player bitch so much about making $20 million a year... And talk about showing him some love. Where's the freaking perspective? He went from being a backup qb to $20 million plus qb. And you don't feel no love and you're feeling you're being unfairly treated- For all of the people that weren't born with silver spoons in their mouths, I want to say f ck you!

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

If I was Cousins, even with the bad game against the Giants, I would be happy and be feeling good about myself. Because I'm a good NFL qb- which is no small feat- and feel I'm only getting better. And I'm about to get paid a lot of money.

Cousins is acting like... I can't think of a better description... he's acting like a bitch. Stop with this petty sh t and get over it. You have a bright future- act like it!

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Before this, we had a qb in RGIII, that thought his sh t don't stink. And now, a qb, that wants you to not only smell his sh t but tell him that it doesn't stink. And preferably, he wants you say it smells like roses.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Comparing that diva rg3 act while he was here to cousins is laughable. You're reaching big time and letting your frustration of our season ending fuel all this shit about cousins. He's the best qb we've had in a while and the best option we have right now and surely it looks that way for next year as well. No sense in crying over spilt milk dude

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Cousins should have never been placed in the position of "I have to score 30 points every game" just to have a chance at winning. He had no defense, no run game, and the NFL's worst field goal kicker. Hopkins singularly cost us at least 3 games because he can't make kicks. If not for all of the above, we'd still be bitching about the giants loss, but we would still have been in the playoffs.