Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?
 

[quote=doughtydoubter;1185862]My understanding is not everything - they cannot put POISON pills in the contract - i.e the contract becomes fully guaranteed if Kirk cousins plays in DC 4 games next year. This was done away with at the last CBA

However you do have to match salary structure, bonuses and incentives.

[B]On top of this, if we match an offer- lets be real, Cousins doesn't have to sign our offer over the other teams. He can choose Denver or whoever. I think people forget he has to WANT to stay in DC over another team. [/B]
so lets all be real and just come to reality that unless we tag him for 34 mil, hes gone unless Allen and Snyder overpay him grossly.[/quote]

From wiki (yeah... sorry):

"No Offer Sheet may contain a Principal Term that would create rights or obligations for the Old Club that differ in any way (including but not limited to the amount of compensation that would be paid, the circumstances in which compensation would be guaranteed, or the circumstances in which other contractual rights would or would not vest) from the rights or obligations that such Principal Term would create for the Club extending the Offer Sheet (i.e., no 'poison pills')."

But yeah it does imply everything else has to be matched.

However about the bolded part, under the transition tag I'm pretty sure Cousins would have no choice but to play for the Skins if he signed an offer that we would match.

Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?
 

Do you really want to force him to be here if he doesn’t want to be though??

Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?
 

I don't. If he doesn't want to be here, let him walk.

Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?
 

[quote=MTK;1185885]Do you really want to force him to be here if he doesn’t want to be though??[/quote]

I really don't think there's any evidence he doesn't want to be here.

I even think his fans Q&A at his charity event gave good clues of what he wants: he wants to be wanted, he wants to be paid, and he wants to win.
He even said his agent told him the last Skins' offer was legit (but they'd had even better leverage next year).

He's been successful here.
And as many have said here, it's a business and he's a pro, so why would he be unhappy to play here for the same money he would accept elsewhere?

I have very little hope the FO will do the right things to keep him here though.

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[quote=Chico23231;1185859]Pay the man and lets avoid the drama.[/quote]

I agree. He's the team's best player and its much easier to build around a know commodity at QB than bringing in a rookie and trying to build around the lesser elements of the team.

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[quote=irish;1185892]I agree. [B]He's the team's best player[/B] and its much easier to build around a know commodity at QB than bringing in a rookie and trying to build around the lesser elements of the team.[/quote]

I'd say at least Trent Williams is without a doubt a better player, and you can argue about Scherff and Norman when healthy.

But yeah pay him.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1185893]I'd say at least Trent Williams is without a doubt a better player, and you can argue about Scherff and Norman when healthy.

But yeah pay him.[/quote]

But staying healthy is a huge part of it. If you cant stay healthy it doesn't matter how good you are. Durability is the most under-rated and least talked about aspect of KC and IMO its one if his biggest assets.

Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?
 

[quote=FrenchSkin;1185893]I'd say at least Trent Williams is without a doubt a better player, and you can argue about Scherff and Norman when healthy.

But yeah pay him.[/quote]

Trent is the best LT in football, the dude never gives up a sack it seems. I agree he's our best player.

Kirk is top 3 on the team though.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1185895]Trent is the best LT in football, the dude never gives up a sack it seems. I agree he's our best player.

Kirk is top 3 on the team though.[/QUOTE]

Agreed.

And as Irish pointed out his ability to stay healthy is a big asset.

It's crazy how virtually every body wants him to stay and very few think he will. Says a lot about our FO.

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[quote=Chico23231;1185866]I agree...

I would offer him a solid deal first....if he rejects it tell him he will be franchised but we will seek a trade. There are 5 immediate teams Arizona, [B]Jags[/B], Jets, Browns, Broncos...that will be interested. Start there.[/quote]

Kirk to the Jags would be a great fit. He could help make them perennial contenders. IMO, they are a perfect example of a team that could go to the next level and stay there by adding a solid QB.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1185897]Kirk to the Jags would be a great fit. He could help make them perennial contenders. IMO, they are a perfect example of a team that could go to the next level and stay there by adding a solid QB.[/quote]

If the Jags go to the SB or by chance win it ...they aren't going after a QB.

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[quote=Giantone;1185898]If the Jags go to the SB or by chance win it ...they aren't going after a QB.[/quote]

Blake bortles is terrible. They have decent talent everywhere, why wouldn’t u upgrade that position especially with his contract coming up?

Alex smith or Eli makes too much sense there over bortles.

Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?
 

[quote=Chico23231;1185899]Blake bortles is terrible. They have decent talent everywhere, why wouldn’t u upgrade that position especially with his contract coming up?

Alex smith or Eli makes too much sense there over bortles.[/quote]

Do you remember the 2000 Ravens? A better QB doesn't always mean better results. There are so many determining factors. I just don't understand why they don't put in Chad Henne. He's better than Bortles.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1185900]Do you remember the 2000 Ravens? A better QB doesn't always mean better results. There are so many determining factors. I just don't understand why they don't put in Chad Henne. He's better than Bortles.[/QUOTE]


Bortles can run at least, Henne isn’t much better of a passer and is a statue in the pocket

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[quote=MTK;1185901]Bortles can run at least, Henne isn’t much better of a passer and is a statue in the pocket[/quote]

Blake isn't all that garbage , he's a bad passer but he's big and has a strong arm down field. It's obviously not hurt the team this yr. He's probably around 30th or so. Chris Simms had him 70th lmao

"EJ Manuel is better" is what he said

Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?
 

The trend recently is the current good QB, not the best, up for contract becomes the highest paid with the current escalation of NFL QB salaries. Kirk is top 10 or borderline top 10 so that qualifies. That latest number is $27 mil a year for Matthew Stafford's extension. Is Kirk worth over $27 mil a year? I would say for that number let him walk, I would take him at $25 mil, not a penny more.

Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?
 

We need a new thread this has reached the point where last post no longer works. Maybe 5.0?

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[quote=mredskins;1185904]We need a new thread this has reached the point where last post no longer works. Maybe 5.0?[/quote]

lol i thought that was just an issue my pc was having hahaha

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[QUOTE=mredskins;1185904]We need a new thread this has reached the point where last post no longer works. Maybe 5.0?[/QUOTE]Can we say anything new until something new happens though?

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Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?
 

[quote=mredskins;1185904]We need a new thread this has reached the point where last post no longer works. Maybe 5.0?[/quote]

just made it lol

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[quote=Giantone;1185898]If the Jags go to the SB or by chance win it ...they aren't going after a QB.[/quote]

Not necessarily. The Steelers let Neil O'Donnell go to the Jets after he took them to the Super Bowl vs Dallas.