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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1095997]Too many rumors always seem to be following this team. Big part of the problem according to Fletcher.[/QUOTE]


I want to say win games so they have something else to talk about, but other losing organizations dont seem to have this problem. Has to be due to the fact they are located in the nations capital....


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[quote=rocnrik;1095996]At least Colt did not look like a high school QB..RGIII is done in washington! ..If Gruden thought that it was even a small chance that Robert was ever going to be the answer at QB he never would have said those things about Robert in public..he knew it was over! what bothers me is that Gruden knew this all along..if the front office/owner would have listened they could have played Colt and Most likely traded RGIII for at least something..but after He started at Tampa and his level of play is at a high school level and all the other teams know this..whats his value now? At best 4th round ..If the skins flat out waive RGIII the Jets are the only team that would pick him up ..what team wants the drama..lets face it the SKINS blew this deal from day one..I don't fault them so much for the pick but how much they gave up for it..if you remember cleveland also wanted RGIII ..they refused to give away the future for him and stayed pat..look at them now and look at us! the sad part its not over Snyder is already looking at the next Shiny toy he can get..Winston is on the list for sure. How about drafting the best OL out there..give protection to who ever is the QB of the future..and can somebody tell me why Colt is not even being considered as a legit QB..I know he does not have a big arm but my goodness at least he looked like he can read a defense and make the average throws..if i remember correct Joe Montana did not have a cannon ..he just understood the game. I am tired of the latest greatest college Qb that comes into the league and thinks he is already all pro..maybe what the Skins need is a Colt type QB ..no drama,hard worker..TEAM player..studies the game ..goes out on sunday and makes the simple stuff work . If the Redskins have to have Brady or Rogers to win games then we will never win another title..sometimes you have to game plan with what you have ..WITH RGIII you can't have a game plan with Colt you can![/quote]

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Unfortunately, many wacky things have happened for real at Redskins Park over the years, making wild rumors easier to believe. I'm glad that the current RGIII rumors are false.

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[quote=Chico23231;1095970]SS, Does Jay have support from inside the organization on his handling of RG3? Or is it still split from within?

Any insight much appreciated.[/quote]

I think he has begrudging support. I don't think Dan is too thrilled with what's going on. Bruce, who I don't think ever was totally sold on RG3, is torn between supporting his head coach and appeasing his boss.

Overall though, I think support for Griffin has waned

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[quote=kct1975;1095965]I agree that while the article I linked to above is a bit bombastic, I do tend to believe the old saying "Where's there's smoke, there's fire"

I have heard some of the local broadcasters say that RG3 was given some special treatment from Dan Snyder.

I have also heard the same local broadcasters mention just recently that several of the Redskins players have turned against RG3.

So, while I do agree that the article seems to be over-selling the problems, I do think that they exist.[/quote]

I'm sure there are times when RG3 and his family received some extra consideration. It's exaggerated in my opinion because a) it's not a regular occurrence b) I'm not there, but I've never heard anyone (even anti RG3 people) say his family abuses any privileges and c) when I was there I used to see other players (back up linemen) get the occasional special treatment for their families as circumstances dictated

There are definitely players that don't like RG3. Many that don't like Cousins either. Did they turn on RG3 or just never like him? That I don't know

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[quote=SmootSmack;1096003]I think he has begrudging support. I don't think Dan is too thrilled with what's going on. Bruce, who I don't think ever was totally sold on RG3, is torn between supporting his head coach and appeasing his boss.

Overall though, I think support for Griffin has waned[/quote]

Interesting on Bruce. thanks.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1095999]I want to say win games so they have something else to talk about, but other losing organizations dont seem to have this problem. Has to be due to the fact they are located in the nations capital....


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All the dry snitching as Moss called it definitely causes problems and fosters a negative environment. It's bush league drama at it's best.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1096006]All the dry snitching as Moss called it definitely causes problems and fosters a negative environment. It's bush league drama at it's best.[/QUOTE]


Oh agreed. I just think the DC media makes it not go away better than most others.


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[quote=SmootSmack;1096003]I think he has begrudging support. I don't think Dan is too thrilled with what's going on. Bruce, who I don't think ever was totally sold on RG3, is torn between supporting his head coach and appeasing his boss.

Overall though, I think support for Griffin has waned[/quote]

It agree that support for RG has waned. The coaches know RG is not part of this team's future and I think the rest of the organization is slowly coming to that conclusion.

2 weeks ago I wouldn't have said it but now I really believe that there's a real chance RG will not be a Redskin by this time next year. He may succeed for another team, although I doubt it, but any success he has as a pocket passing QB wont be here in DC.

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[QUOTE=HailGreen28;1095979]I think its unfair to the rest of the team, especially those with performance incentives in their contract, to not try to win every game.





You just don't throw a game. Period. IMO.[/QUOTE]



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If we finish 4-12 or worse Jay may be fired. Hell some think he's a 1 and done already smh

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RGIII will be given one more change before if he cant win!

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1096041]If we finish 4-12 or worse Jay may be fired. Hell some think he's a 1 and done already smh[/quote]

If he's one and done, who the hell would want to coach this team? Dennis Allen?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1096041]If we finish 4-12 or worse Jay may be fired. Hell some think he's a 1 and done already smh[/quote]

I've said it from day one that I believe Gruden is a one and done coach - and if there is any doubt in Dan Snyder's mind his firing will be cemented when / if he benches RG3 for good.

I guess the next coach is going to be told straight up that he plays RG3 period or its his job.... I shudder to think of who the next coach might be....

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IF Gruden is one and done then we will have moved below the belly of Cleveland. While I cannot fathom life without football my Sundays have been more relaxed since said in my heart eff'em. Firing a solid hire like Gruden would move me closer to out the door. I already don't listen to the NFL like I did just last year, cancelled Sirius radio NFL package, and overall just have little desire to give myself over to it.

The Warpath really is my last external link to football consuming my life and I don't post / check it nearly as much now.