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Buffalo Bob 07-04-2019 08:02 AM

Re: Dwayne Haskins
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1225105]Someone has to play. If he proves that he's our best option leading up to the season to win games, then he should play.

Our opening schedule is pretty brutal for any QB. [B]Shouldn't deter from Haskins starting if he earned the job.[/B][/quote]

As long as the O-line is playing well and protecting him so he doesn't become road kill.

CRedskinsRule 07-04-2019 08:17 AM

Re: Dwayne Haskins
 
[QUOTE=REDSKINS4ever;1225100]What does everyone here think about what Theismann said about the first 5 games of the regular season schedule being potentially too much for Haskins to handle ?[/QUOTE]I tend to agree with Theismann. I think the bye or Minnesota game would be the better starting point for his career. I really don't like the idea of letting all 3 NFC East oppenents have the opportunity to get into his brain early in his career.

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DYoungJelly 07-04-2019 12:11 PM

Re: Dwayne Haskins
 
[QUOTE=Buffalo Bob;1225110]As long as the O-line is playing well and protecting him so he doesn't become road kill.[/QUOTE]This is one of the biggest misunderstandings in football.

There is a huge responsibility on the QB to work with the online to protect himself.

Colt Brennan on 980 a few years ago said the responsibility was 50% oline and 50% QB.

The o line doesn't play well in a vacuum, the QB greatly influences the play of the o line.

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MTK 07-05-2019 11:39 AM

Re: Dwayne Haskins
 
[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1225100]What does everyone here think about what Theismann said about the first 5 games of the regular season schedule being potentially too much for Haskins to handle ?[/quote]

I think worrying about the schedule is a pretty poor reason to hold him back if he's ready. JT is being overly protective.

The first 5 games may look brutal now, but things change so much week to week.

Warthog 07-10-2019 01:44 AM

Re: Dwayne Haskins
 
You learn by doing. A previous poster talked about the case of Jason Campbell. He sat on the bench for 1.5 seasons before they played him in his first game. He still ended up being an average QB who only lasted for a few years with us. Sitting him for so long did nothing except delay the team from finding out he wasn't the franchise QB.

People keep bringing up RG3 as the reason for sitting Haskins down. RG3 was a running QB who couldn't read a defense, nor ever get through his progressions. Once he was hurt he couldn't become a pocket QB because of those two reasons.

The Eagles, who probably will win the NFC East this year, played Wentz from game 1 in his rookie season. They took their "rookie" lumps that first year and he was ready to move up the next season and did so.

Let Haskins start from Game 1. I'd rather watch Haskins learn as a rookie, make some mistakes and win 6 games than see why Case Keenum is a journeyman QB in the NFL and win 7-8 games. Give Haskins the experience he needs right from the get-go. He'll be a better QB in the long-run for building that experience level.

skinsfan69 07-10-2019 09:45 AM

Re: Dwayne Haskins
 
I just hope that we keep 3 QB's this season. There's no way we can go w/ 2. I have a feeling that all 3 guys will end up playing.

Warthog 07-10-2019 12:54 PM

Re: Dwayne Haskins
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1225227]I just hope that we keep 3 QB's this season. There's no way we can go w/ 2. I have a feeling that all 3 guys will end up playing.[/quote]

After last season I doubt Gruden wants to get into a QB situation where he has to hire a QB off the street who hasn't even played in the NFL in a few years. No doubt we will have 3 QB on the team and Alex Smith talking in Haskin's ear getting him ready to play.

MTK 07-10-2019 04:23 PM

Re: Dwayne Haskins
 
[quote=Warthog;1225237]After last season I doubt Gruden wants to get into a QB situation where he has to hire a QB off the street who hasn't even played in the NFL in a few years. No doubt we will have 3 QB on the team and Alex Smith talking in Haskin's ear getting him ready to play.[/quote]

Yet this spring Gruden said he doesn't like carrying more than 2 QBs.

[quote]
Speaking at the league meetings in March, Gruden made clear he only likes to roll with two QBs on his 53.

"If you carry three quarterbacks, which I've never been a fan of, it will have an impact on another position," the coach said.

[URL="https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/redskins-depth-chart-review-will-jay-gruden-really-be-bold-enough-keep-just-2-qbs"]Redskins depth chart review: Will Jay Gruden really be bold enough to keep just 2 QBs?[/URL]
[/quote]

Don't be surprised if it happens again.

skinsfan69 07-10-2019 05:10 PM

Re: Dwayne Haskins
 
This is where I really disagree w/ Gruden. Yes it will impact another position but so what. The most important position is QB. If a starter goes down then you have the backup and then you have to get a guy off the street. How'd that work out last year Jay? You had Mark Sanchez start a game and the offense looked like pee wee league shit. You couldn't run basic plays. Inexcusable on the NFL level. Josh Johnson won a game but then he showed who he really is.

Buffalo Bob 07-10-2019 05:17 PM

Re: Dwayne Haskins
 
[quote=Buffalo Bob;1225110]As long as the O-line is playing well and protecting him so he doesn't become road kill.[/quote]


[quote=DYoungJelly;1225124]This is one of the biggest misunderstandings in football.

There is a huge responsibility on the QB to work with the online to protect himself.

Colt Brennan on 980 a few years ago said the responsibility was 50% oline and 50% QB.

The o line doesn't play well in a vacuum, the QB greatly influences the play of the o line.

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Being a pocket passer goes a long way toward a QB doing his 50%, that is what Haskins is.

Warthog 07-11-2019 12:57 AM

Re: Dwayne Haskins
 
[quote=MTK;1225245]Yet this spring Gruden said he doesn't like carrying more than 2 QBs.



Don't be surprised if it happens again.[/quote]

I just don't believe everything Jay says to the press. If the team does as he has said, then that means Colt McCoy will be on the streets after the pre-season, unless Case totally blows it in the pre-season.

Buffalo Bob 07-11-2019 01:03 AM

Re: Dwayne Haskins
 
[quote=MTK;1225245]Yet this spring Gruden said he doesn't like carrying more than 2 QBs.



Don't be surprised if it happens again.[/quote]

What a genius, it is pretty obvious why he averages 7 wins a year. With the Redskin's recent history of QB injuries he should have 3.

CRedskinsRule 07-11-2019 07:42 AM

Re: Dwayne Haskins
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1225227]I just hope that we keep 3 QB's this season. There's no way we can go w/ 2. I have a feeling that all 3 guys will end up playing.[/QUOTE]I mean Smith is going to go on IR immediately, so keeping 3 active is really 4. I doubt they do that and tie up even more salary cap room.
If its me I go with Keenum and Haskins. Keenum doesnt have an injury history like Colt, and has backup talent at least.

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CRedskinsRule 07-11-2019 07:44 AM

Re: Dwayne Haskins
 
[QUOTE=Warthog;1225257]I just don't believe everything Jay says to the press. If the team does as he has said, then that means Colt McCoy will be on the streets after the pre-season, unless Case totally blows it in the pre-season.[/QUOTE]Colt on the street presumably would be our goto guy if injuries hit the qb spot again

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MTK 07-11-2019 08:57 AM

Re: Dwayne Haskins
 
[quote=Warthog;1225257]I just don't believe everything Jay says to the press. If the team does as he has said, then that means Colt McCoy will be on the streets after the pre-season, unless Case totally blows it in the pre-season.[/quote]

Just look at his history, he doesn't like to carry 3 QB's. As far as coaches in this league goes Jay is pretty straight forward and honest most of the time. And when he does go coach speak it's usually not hard to read between the lines with him.


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