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JC passes a hail mary pass and no redskins are even close to it.

last play with 8 seconds left.

kelly lets ANOTHER pass hit him in the hands and through it.

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[quote=A10sROCK;509018]The hardest decision the Zorn /Cerrato team has this offseason is what to do at QB.

A good QB, who has flashes of being outstanding, or just very average is a tough decision.

I see a big QB competition next off-season between Campbell, a veteran WCO QB and Colt.

We're also going to obviously need some changes at the OL and WR.[/quote]

The hardest decision should be to figure out how to come up with a decent offensive line.

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[quote=GMScud;509020]Really? Are gonna win a game sometime soon?[/quote]Well, if we can play like we did the last two games, we'll beat Cincinnati. But depending on the injury report, I suppose that's in question now.

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betts catches last pass for a few meaningless yards.

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Well No Playoffs This Year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[quote=A10sROCK;508998]INT by Reed into freakin double coverage. JC was starring Cooley down the whole time.[/quote]


This is the stuff that makes me wonder why so many folks don't want to heap any blame on JC. Sure we have glaring inadequacies on both sides of the ball, but JC is also messing up. I don't think JC is progressing any. I don't think he is necessarily regressing, but he hasn't gotten significantly better since he was named the starter. Switching QB's at this point will not help, but if say we don't win another game this season, I think it would be reasonable for some folks to think about it if this crap keeps happening next season.

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[quote=GMScud;509002]And your very own Washington Redskins are now in last place in the NFC East. Shit.[/quote]
Probably right where we should be. Look at the bright side--next year we'll draw a fourth place schedule...

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Our defense is not a dominant D like the Ravens and they will never be able to play a full game b/c they are on the field A LOT thanks to our wonderful offense.

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[quote=A10sROCK;509034]betts catches last pass for a few meaningless yards.[/quote]
I'm glad we risked everyone's health to get Betts 20 yards.

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team doesnt deserve to win another game why cant we win at night ?

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man wouldnt it be nice to have harbaugh instead of stupid ass Zorn?

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[quote=skinsfan1987;509035]Well No Playoffs This Year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]

Well we're not mathematically eliminated and since we're playing SO well we still can make it. :blah:

Btw, don't give an award to that thug Suggs, it should be all Ed Reed. I hate Suggs.

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[quote=Ruhskins;509032]The hardest decision should be to figure out how to come up with a decent offensive line.[/quote]

Exactly. We need new draft picks their and some modest FA players on the OL.

We'll probably try to sign one or two FA players for the WR group.

However, I am increasingly concerned that whatever JC has on the offense he'll never be good enough to carry this team to the elite level.

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[quote=NYCSkin;509037]Probably right where we should be. Look at the bright side--next year we'll draw a fourth place schedule...[/quote]

That only changes two games. Our two "3rd place" games this year were New Orleans and Detroit. Won both of those. But I know it is tough when grasping for a silver lining after a game like that.

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[quote=elamin24;509044]man wouldnt it be nice to have harbaugh instead of stupid ass Zorn?[/quote]

Harbaugh has a decent offensive line and a top 5 defense, that's the difference.

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[quote=SmootSmack;509014]Excuse me? No comprendo?[/quote]

I didn't think you would.

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[quote=GTripp0012;509033]Well, if we can play like we did the last two games, we'll beat Cincinnati. But depending on the injury report, I suppose that's in question now.[/quote]


Shoot Cincy can beat us, not likely, but they are capable. You might need to think about changing your JC franchise QB tag on your ID box if things start to really go downhill.

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good interview with ray lewis how did you kill that guy again?

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[quote=NYCSkin;509037]Probably right where we should be. Look at the bright side--next year we'll draw a fourth place schedule...[/quote]

Maybe we'll get a nice position in the draft as well.

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Everytime I watch Ed Reed or Troy Polamalu play I miss Sean Taylor more and more.
Every D need that one guy who is always around the big play, I really miss that guy.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;509056]Maybe we'll get a nice position in the draft as well.[/quote]


Who do we draft first? O linemen, WR, D line?

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Time to go with Todd Collins.... Anybody but JC PLEASE

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[quote=Hog's Breath;509053]I didn't think you would.[/quote]

Actually I completely get it. Just trying to bring some perspective. But that's a lost art here

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If Zorn blames execution again, I'm going to puke. His play calling was predictable and non-varying. They still can't protect Campbell, not unlike the Spurrier era. Zorn has demonstrated his inability to make adjustments almost every game. He has clearly fallen in love with his plan, no matter how flawed, and sticks to it.

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you guys keep talking about the draft yet the skins front office couldnt detect a fart in a phone booth what makes you think they can spot talent in the draft

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[quote=Skins_FanFL;509062]If Zorn blames execution again, I'm going to puke. His play calling was predictable and non-varying. They still can't protect Campbell, not unlike the Spurrier era. Zorn has demonstrated his inability to make adjustments almost every game. He has clearly fallen in love with his plan, no matter how flawed, and sticks to it.[/quote]
I couldn't agree with you more.

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Joe Gibbs teams got better in December. JZ team is getting worse.

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The season is not over. We didn't learn anything we didn't already know tonight. I feel confident in saying that the Ravens are better than we are. I would have said that coming in. Nobody thought we were ready for an offensive explosion, and if I told you Ed Reed would force two turnovers and we would have to finish the game without Jansen AND Samuels, you probably would not have thought we would have scored an offensive TD. So there's that.

Hopefully, we'll field five guys on the offensive line next week, and we'll get a win in Cincinnati. I'll look at the tape on Thursday on Friday, and see if I have anything to add to this.

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[quote=SmootSmack;509061]Actually I completely get it. Just trying to bring some perspective. But that's a lost art here[/quote]

Lol!!! I knew what you meant. Just a little frustrated.

I will say this...our problems run way deeper than QB. Anyone calling for Colt is loco.

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You can't fault the Skins D for not stopping the Ravens last clock-chewing drive. I mean the Ravens had All World Fullback Le'Ron McClain on their side.

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[quote=A10sROCK;509047]Exactly. We need new draft picks their and some modest FA players on the OL.

We'll probably try to sign one or two FA players for the WR group.

However, I am increasingly concerned that whatever JC has on the offense he'll never be good enough to carry this team to the elite level.[/quote]


So far JC is an average to good QB, nothing to write home about. With regards to offseason acquisitions I am not sure about FA WRs. EVery one we have signed, with the exception of Moss, has sucked. Modestly priced, young FA O line men is a nice way to go, along with drafting some.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;509054]Shoot Cincy can beat us, not likely, but they are capable. You might need to think about changing your JC franchise QB tag on your ID box if things start to really go downhill.[/quote]Don't worry about me. I know what's going on.

Sorry to come across as terse, and I don't mean to be disrespectful, but I don't have an agenda.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;509036]This is the stuff that makes me wonder why so many folks don't want to heap any blame on JC. Sure we have glaring inadequacies on both sides of the ball, but JC is also messing up. I don't think JC is progressing any. I don't think he is necessarily regressing, but he hasn't gotten significantly better since he was named the starter. Switching QB's at this point will not help, but if say we don't win another game this season, I think it would be reasonable for some folks to think about it if this crap keeps happening next season.[/quote]

JC's QB rating has been sinking the last month - just like it did the same time last year [before he was hurt]. Undoubtably it's partly due to the
OL and Wr drops. however, a QB makes the pass rush miss, dumps the ball, picks up the blitz and makes points on his own talent. Jason has been in the middle 70 on his QB rating for 3 seasons and is going back their now.

Some ppl want Jason Campbell to have a 'couple more years'. Unfortunately, no QB, on any team, gets that kind of time to develop. You either win games or you get replaced. After close to 40 games as the starter his clock is running out.

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Does anyone else notice that we tend to give up TDS on the opposing teams opening drive, instantly putting us down 7-0. It seems to happen alot then just when you think we are going to get back into it we give up an 80 yard 6 minute TD drive to ice it. Not blaming the D for the loss just making an observation

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[quote=DieHardSkin;509059].... Anybody but JC PLEASE[/quote]
Agreed...we need to hurry up and trade his ass before he depreciates any more and we can only get a (Ramsey deal) 7th rounder for him. Seriously this needs to happen THIS off-season before the rest of the league sees how shitty he is;if not already...I mean he has stunk it up in all 3 of his national games this year, so I guess the secret is already out.....Campbell=Ramsey=Wuerffel=Frerotte=All the rest of the losers that have QB'd in DC...We need that franchise guy and Campbell is not him

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;509045]Well we're not mathematically eliminated and since we're playing SO well we still can make it. :blah:

The way this team is playing with the injuries on our defense and OL, we could easily lost all of our games the rest of the way. Cincy is a bad team, but we are terrible against bad teams. Philly is playing well and they always find ways to win in DC, and SF is re-energized due to Mike Singlarty role as head coach. They did beat a playoff bound jets team earlier today. This is a lost season guys, and everyone here knows it. When this team went to 6-2, everybody was thinking playoffs, now we have went back down to earth and reality of this team.

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[quote=A10sROCK;509083]JC's QB rating has been sinking the last month - just like it did the same time last year [before he was hurt]. Undoubtably it's partly due to the
OL and Wr drops. however, a QB makes the pass rush miss, dumps the ball, picks up the blitz and makes points on his own talent. Jason has been in the middle 70 on his QB rating for 3 seasons and is going back their now.

Some ppl want Jason Campbell to have a 'couple more years'. Unfortunately, no QB, on any team, gets that kind of time to develop. You either win games or you get replaced. After close to 40 games as the starter his clock is running out.[/quote]

Yeah but good QBs (Manning, Brady, Eli, etc., etc.) have good lines for protection. Name me a good QB with a bad offensive line? Heck, even Flacco had pretty good protection tonite and he's not a very good QB.

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defense suspect they give up the big play and alot of 3rd and longs maybe not tonight but the ravens offense sucks anyway london fletcher gives it 100 percent look in the mirror guys

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[quote=skinsfan1987;509088][QUOTE=Ruhskins;509045]Well we're not mathematically eliminated and since we're playing SO well we still can make it. :blah:

The way this team is playing with the injuries on our defense and OL, we could easily lost all of our games the rest of the way. Cincy is a bad team, but we are terrible against bad teams. Philly is playing well and they always find ways to win in DC, and SF is re-energized due to Mike Singlarty role as head coach. They did beat a playoff bound jets team earlier today. This is a lost season guys, and everyone here knows it. When this team went to 6-2, everybody was thinking playoffs, now we have went back down to earth and reality of this team.[/quote]

I was being sarcastic, hence the blah blah smiley.

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[quote=A10sROCK;509083]JC's QB rating has been sinking the last month - just like it did the same time last year [before he was hurt]. Undoubtably it's partly due to the
OL and Wr drops. however, a QB makes the pass rush miss, dumps the ball, picks up the blitz and makes points on his own talent. Jason has been in the middle 70 on his QB rating for 3 seasons and is going back their now.

Some ppl want Jason Campbell to have a 'couple more years'. Unfortunately, no QB, on any team, gets that kind of time to develop. You either win games or you get replaced. After close to 40 games as the starter his clock is running out.[/quote]

Who gives a shit about passer rating???? We simply don't have the horses on offense. The line can't pass block, the play calling is so so and we have no play makers at wr. How do you expect ANY qb to do well in this offense.