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Oops forgot to rank mallet. I would add him to the end anyway.
6. Mallet

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My QB predictions from this class down the road are..

1. locker
2. Dalton
3. Gabbert
4. Mallett
5. Kaepernick
6. Ponder




SS what's the latest on VY?

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Nothing new

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^ I saw an article where CJ28 said he thinks VY will be back so I was just curious

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Re: Trading into the lower half of the1st round.

I would much rather get Stanzi w/ a hypothetical 3rd/4th rounder then Dalton or Ponder at the bottom of the first.

[quote=skinsfaninok;793938]My QB predictions from this class down the road are..[/quote]I can predict with shocking accuracy after the draft when I know which team they get drafted by.

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[quote=30gut;793941]Re: Trading into the lower half of the1st round.

I would much rather get Stanzi w/ a hypothetical 3rd/4th rounder then Dalton or Ponder at the bottom of the first.

[B]I can predict with shocking accuracy after the draft when I know which team they get drafted by[/B].[/quote]

:laughing- Very good 30gut. :) Just out of curiosity though, what were your thoughts on Bradford after getting drafted by the Rams? I respect your posts and am curious about your thoughts on his future.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;793940]^ I saw an article where CJ28 said he thinks VY will be back so I was just curious[/quote]

Highly unlikely, but I mean what else is CJ going to say?

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Concerns about Phil Taylor.. has bones growing together in his feet, they can't correct it, it's a pain tolerance issue

[url=http://rob-rang.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/13682485/28589722]Teams are red-flagging DT Phil Taylor's feet - CBSSports.com[/url]

I think at this point I'd pass on the guy

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True

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[quote=warriorzpath;793936]My bold prediction with this qb class and their rankings in the NFL.
1. Dalton
2. Ponder
3. Locker
4. Gabbert
5. Newton

Their draft order might be the complete 180 degree opposite. That's how bold this prediction is.[/quote]

Bold or not I'm with you. Everyone is down playing Dalton like he's never going to be a starter. They say he can't run, yet all video shows him running well on designed QB sneaks. They say he has no pocket awareness, yet he knew when to escape the pass rush and make something out of nothing. They say he can't throw on the run, yet he did throw a lot from roll outs. Plus he's smart.
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[COLOR=black]“I don't know how good he's going to be,” Rhome says. “But I tell you what, I'd put my money on him. I was there, and I don't mean to use Peyton Manning as an example, but I’m going to use him as an example, I was there on his pro day and I guarantee you, Peyton Manning didn't throw the ball any better than this kid. Maybe this kid threw the ball better.”[/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]San Francisco 49ers head coach Jim Harbaugh says he likes what Dalton has done in all of his games from high school to college. Harbaugh calls Dalton a him a winner.[/COLOR]
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[url=http://sidelinescouting.com/rankings/qb/andy-dalton.shtml]Sideline Scouting - Andy Dalton Scouting Report[/url]
[quote]Above-average arm strength... High velocity thrower... Above average accuracy, throws are often between the numbers... Throws well while scrambling... Has been productive as a four year starter... Sells the pump fake... Good footwork... Does a great job going through his progressions... Rarely throws into double coverage... On the field leader, a good field general... Teammates feed off his energy... A winner; only lost three games as a starter at TCU, set the TCU record for career wins by a quarterback with 44... Able to make plays with his feet, above-average speed for the position... Routinely picks up first downs with his feet when asked to scramble... Accumulated over 1,600 yards rushing and 22 rushing touchdowns during his career.[/quote]

[url=http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2599]Andy Dalton Scouting Report - 2011 NFL Draft Prospect[/url]
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[LEFT][COLOR=#000000]It takes a special player to break any record held by TCU legend Sammy Baugh. Dalton shattered Baugh's 29 career victories by winning an incredible 42 games as the Horned Frogs' quarterback. [/quote][/COLOR]
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[quote=tryfuhl;793948]Concerns about Phil Taylor.. has bones growing together in his feet, they can't correct it, it's a pain tolerance issue

[URL="http://rob-rang.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/13682485/28589722"]Teams are red-flagging DT Phil Taylor's feet - CBSSports.com[/URL]

I think at this point I'd pass on the guy[/quote]

Same with Mark Ingram (RB). I think the latest report was his injury is not healing well and actually might be a liability for the future. Now they are saying he might be projected not to get drafted until late rounds.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/13/report-mark-ingram-off-two-teams-boards-due-to-bad-knee/]Report: Bad knee eliminates Mark Ingram from two draft boards | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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The Sammy Baugh factor alone should have all Skins fans welcoming Dalton with open arms! lol

I still say Pat Devlin is gonna be the biggest QB surprise to come out of this Draft.

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[quote=53Fan;793946]:laughing- Very good 30gut. :) Just out of curiosity though, what were your thoughts on Bradford after getting drafted by the Rams? I respect your posts and am curious about your thoughts on his future.[/quote]

I thought he would be groomed by a well trained WCO disciple in Pat Shurmur.
[quote=30gut;513831]QB coach/Offensive Assistant:

[COLOR="DarkOrange"][SIZE="3"]Pat Shurmur
Quarterbacks Coach [/SIZE][/COLOR]


One of the rising stars in the NFL's coaching ranks, Pat Shurmur is in his seventh season as the Eagles quarterbacks coach and his tenth as a member of Andy Reid's staff.........

[url=http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/CoachBios.asp?coach_id=13]Philadelphia Eagles[/url][/quote]

^^ From 12-20-2008, 08:17 AM

Bradford showed more arm strength then I thought he had and of course will always be very accurate.

I kinda hope he has a rough year simply because I hate McDaniels, but without question McDaniels knows how to coach the passing game.

I think Bradford might start off slow this year, but will finish strong and continue to improve.

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[quote=SBXVII;793959]Same with Mark Ingram (RB). I think the latest report was his injury is not healing well and actually might be a liability for the future. Now they are saying he might be projected not to get drafted until late rounds.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/13/report-mark-ingram-off-two-teams-boards-due-to-bad-knee/]Report: Bad knee eliminates Mark Ingram from two draft boards | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

It's funny you mention Mark Ingram, but this was a following tweet from a insider. Not sure if Smoot has commented about him (ingram) yet.

[quote] Mark Ingram knee is costing him, not graded n first n a lot of boards n no longer even considered number 1 back n e more 10:34 AM Apr 14th via web [/quote]


So many smoke screens out there it's impossible to see the truth about a lot of things.

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I think Ingram will be a late first rounder and still be the top running back in this draft. Leshoure, Ryan Williams and possibly Kendall Hunter could all be 2nd rounders

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[quote=SBXVII;793955]Bold or not I'm with you. Everyone is down playing Dalton like he's never going to be a starter. They say he can't run, yet all video shows him running well on designed QB sneaks. They say he has no pocket awareness, yet he knew when to escape the pass rush and make something out of nothing. They say he can't throw on the run, yet he did throw a lot from roll outs. Plus he's smart.


[URL="http://sidelinescouting.com/rankings/qb/andy-dalton.shtml"]Sideline Scouting - Andy Dalton Scouting Report[/URL]


[URL="http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2599"]Andy Dalton Scouting Report - 2011 NFL Draft Prospect[/URL]
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Andy Dalton = Josh Heupel. I hope someone else reaches for this guy and not us. 5th or 6th rounder fine.

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[quote=SmootSmack;793834]I don't think they're going to take Dalton. But that might just be wishful thinking[/quote]

I think Locker makes too much sense for the Shanny's considering the offense they want to run. Dalton and Ponder, not so much.

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I don't like Dalton, ponder's alright, Stanzi can fit though, and Peter Kings high on him too..

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[quote=Son Of Man;794016]I think Locker makes too much sense for the Shanny's considering the offense they want to run. Dalton and Ponder, not so much.[/quote]

[url=http://msn.foxsports.com/video/shows/nfl-draft?vid=cc058ab8-c357-4194-be28-db7f5335c280]NFL Draft – Video Highlights of the National Football League - Fox Sports on MSN[/url]

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[quote=CultBrennan59;794080]I don't like Dalton, ponder's alright, Stanzi can fit though, and Peter Kings high on him too..[/quote]

Oh man....I hate to be the bearer of bad news...oh who am I kidding? I love giving people bad news. It's like they're walking down the street and then BAM you drop a piano on them and ruin their day.

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UPDATE: Add Pete Prisco of CBSSports.com to the list of people who don't see the Washington Redskins trading up in the NFL draft. However, he does report that the Redskins are actively trying to trade down.

"According to a league source," Prisco writes, "[B]the Redskins are looking to trade down in the first round with the idea they will draft either Florida State quarterback Christian Ponder or TCU quarterback Andy Dalton[/B]. The Redskins, who pick 10th overall, would like to get a second-round pick from a team in exchange for moving back to their spot in the first round. They could then use their two second-round picks to bolster the defense."

The New England Patriots, with their half-dozen picks in the first three rounds, might make the ideal trading partner for Washington. "The Patriots might have their eye on an edge rusher -- like Ryan Kerrigan of Purdue -- or a receiver like Julio Jones of Alabama," Prisco writes.

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What exactly is this bad news you're dropping?

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Trading up would be too costly. I think the FO is done with trading away high picks, for now at least.

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[quote=SmootSmack;794098]What exactly is this bad news you're dropping?[/quote]

Hehehee, he doesn't like Dalton....so like I came in and like showed him a rumor report that says the Skins are trying to get Dalton....ha ha. I'm so evil. You guys should ban me.

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[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/18/report-ryan-mallett-in-play-for-redskins-at-no-10-overall/"]Report: Ryan Mallett in play for Redskins at No. 10 overall[/URL]

hmmm this is a little curious. I'm thinking Shanny really want's to trade down and this is his way of attracting more partners.

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[quote=GreekSkin;794107][URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/18/report-ryan-mallett-in-play-for-redskins-at-no-10-overall/"]Report: Ryan Mallett in play for Redskins at No. 10 overall[/URL]

hmmm this is a little curious. I'm thinking Shanny really want's to trade down and this is his way of attracting more partners.[/quote]

Total BS.

Can't take any rumors seriously now til the draft.

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Just FYI. Shanny is driving this Humvee.


[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Smoke_screen.jpg[/IMG]

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Of course Mallett is a possibility at 10 , anyone is a possibility

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[quote=GreekSkin;794107][URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/18/report-ryan-mallett-in-play-for-redskins-at-no-10-overall/"]Report: Ryan Mallett in play for Redskins at No. 10 overall[/URL]

hmmm this is a little curious. I'm thinking Shanny really want's to trade down and this is his way of attracting more partners.[/quote]

Oh great, now who's dropping pianos on unsuspecting pedestrians.

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Espn 2 on the clock is on right now

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[quote=CultBrennan59;794080]I don't like Dalton, ponder's alright, Stanzi can fit though, and Peter Kings high on him too..[/quote]

I wouldn't hate on Ponder/Locker and Stanzi.

I know, I know. Why draft 2 QBs..why not. Panthers took Clausen and Pike last year and LOOK AT THEM NOW! BAM! WINNING!!

Seriously though, I'm up for drafting 2 QBs next weekend

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Damn I have a BBall game next Thursday at 730! Piss

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[quote=SmootSmack;794119]I wouldn't hate on Ponder/Locker and Stanzi.

I know, I know. Why draft 2 QBs..why not. Panthers took Clausen and Pike last year and LOOK AT THEM NOW! BAM! WINNING!!

Seriously though, I'm up for drafting 2 QBs next weekend[/quote]

Nah, I'd rather either continue to work with Beck or use that third spot for a veteran Free Agent to compete with Grossman. Would love though to use a late round pick on a QB next year though as by that time you'll have a promising rookie and a veteran making it the ideal situation to use a late round, "why the f**k not" pick on a QB.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;794122]Nah, I'd rather either continue to work with Beck or use that third spot for a veteran Free Agent to compete with Grossman. Would love though to use a late round pick on a QB next year though as by that time you'll have a promising rookie and a veteran making it the ideal situation to use a late round, "why the f**k not" pick on a QB.[/quote]

Well yeah, they also have Vince Young coming on board...

Seriously though, my wish is perhaps far fetched and I do think Beck is seriously being considered...though I can't quite figure out why

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John Beck ? Geez give me Mallett Instead

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[quote=SmootSmack;794123]Well yeah, they also have Vince Young coming on board...

Seriously though, my wish is perhaps far fetched and I do think Beck is seriously being considered...though I can't quite figure out why[/quote]

Also forget not we must the number 1 rule of drafting. Always better, next years QB class is.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;794124]John Beck ? Geez give me Mallett Instead[/quote]

Mallett...or [url=http://misterirrelevant.com/index.php/2010/12/09/john-beck-mullet-redskins-quarterback-jeff-george/]Mullet?[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;794119]I wouldn't hate on Ponder/Locker and Stanzi.

I know, I know. Why draft 2 QBs..why not. Panthers took Clausen and Pike last year and LOOK AT THEM NOW! BAM! WINNING!!

Seriously though, I'm up for drafting 2 QBs next weekend[/quote]

Like Heath Shuler/Gus Frerotte, although hopefully with more success.

Although from the posts above we know we are drafting Mallett. No one lies before the draft.

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I'd rather keep Rex and have a rookie instead of ever seeing Beck play

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Beck was brought in for a reason, KS likes him. We already know what Rex is, why not see what Beck is?

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[quote=Lotus;794127]Like Heath Shuler/Gus Frerotte, although hopefully with more success.

Although from the posts above we know we are drafting Mallett. No one lies before the draft.[/quote]

We're trading up for Mallett!