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[quote=KI Skins Fan;797731]Yes to Wisniewski - he would be a great fit.

I really like Hankerson, who I think may turn out to be better than Julio Jones, but I would prefer that the Skins take linemen in Round 2.

I don't know enough about Paea to have an opinion.

No to Stanzi in the second round. I don't think he's an NFL QB.[/quote]

We couldn't go wrong w/ Wisniewski or Paea. I like Hankerson from what i've seen.

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[quote=monkeydad;797871]i just realized that r(h)omo and pierce shot would make for some great captioning.

[img]http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/getty/2007/09000d5d804167c0_gallery_600.jpg[/img]

r(h)omo -"antonio, you look like a circus clown in that uniform!"

pierce - "awwwww, c'mon...i didn't pick it out! Leave me alone!"[/quote]

romo: Teehee i see your winky bulge
pierce: Ask jessica about dat, come at me bro!

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[quote=CultBrennan59;797713]I don't know though, I feel like the Skins brass were like "Lets trade down, if Quinn's there, then we take him if not then we're just as happy with Kerrigan."

I noticed though that Quinn isn't that good of a tackler (something RK is) and that he isn't that fluid in his hips to drop into coverage (supposedly he looked worse than RK did when he dropped into coverage at his pro day) plus Kerrigan didn't have the character or health issues that Quinn did, the more and more I look at this pick, the more I like it and the more I'm happy we didn't get Quinn.


Now as for day 2, I really really hope we do NOT draft Kaepernick.
Any potential of us drafting Bowers? Titus Young? Trading up for Mallett?[/quote]

You have poor judgement skills. What is wrong with Kaepernick? NOTHING. Dalton will be gone by 41 and we will draft Kaepernick either at 49 or trade down to get him later if he slips. Watch. PS. Colt Brennan sucks. :)

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[quote=SkinzWin;797881]You have poor judgement skills. What is wrong with Kaepernick? NOTHING. Dalton will be gone by 41 and we will draft Kaepernick either at 49 or trade down to get him later if he slips. Watch. PS. Colt Brennan sucks. :)[/quote]

If there was nothing wrong with Kaep he would've been picked by now.

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[quote=tryfuhl;797903]If there was nothing wrong with Kaep he would've been picked by now.[/quote]

There is something wrong with him. He went to Nevada instead of the SEC or other power conference. Have you seen the video and film on him?!?

[URL="http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6158666"]ESPN Sports Science: Colin Kaepernick[/URL]

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[quote=SkinzWin;797905]There is something wrong with him. He went to Nevada instead of the SEC or other power conference. Have you seen the video and film on him?!?

[URL="http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6158666"]ESPN Sports Science: Colin Kaepernick[/URL][/quote]

Yes, sports science isn't gonna be like lol this kid sucks. He's not perfect, he's not garbage either. The jury is out on him. He still seems to have some footwork and accuracy issues from what I've seen, but I'm hardly an expert on 1) QB Play or even 2) College players

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[quote=tryfuhl;797911]Yes, sports science isn't gonna be like lol this kid sucks. He's not perfect, he's not garbage either. The jury is out on him. He still seems to have some footwork and accuracy issues from what I've seen, but I'm hardly an expert on 1) QB Play or even 2) College players[/quote]

I'll agree with the footwork. I have never heard anyone that says he has accuracy issues. That is one of his biggest upsides. Athletic freak with height and mobility and has a very accurate arm. They wouldn't put him on Sports Science if he sucked. It's not like they take bad players and try to spin them as being good. I just think he has all the intangibles and Mallet is a meat head.

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[quote=SkinzWin;797918]I'll agree with the footwork. I have never heard anyone that says he has accuracy issues. That is one of his biggest upsides. Athletic freak with height and mobility and has a very accurate arm. They wouldn't put him on Sports Science if he sucked. It's not like they take bad players and try to spin them as being good. I just think he has all the intangibles and Mallet is a meat head.[/quote]

I'll be the first to admit that I probably only saw him play once last year but from all that I've ready I've heard that he's inconsistent, can put too much air under the ball, very spotty downfield, etc

I'll leave it to people that know more than me, but I'm guessing the ones that report this do..

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Here's a good breakdown

mentions how he's good on rollouts, has McNabb like stride/footwork, so maybe that's why they think that they can "fix" him

[url=http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports/columnists/hyde/blog/2011/03/draft_winds.html]Dave Hyde | Sun Sentinel blogs | Draft Winds: Breaking down QB Colin Kaepernick[/url]

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[quote=SkinzWin;797881]You have poor judgement skills. What is wrong with Kaepernick? NOTHING. Dalton will be gone by 41 and we will draft Kaepernick either at 49 or trade down to get him later if he slips. Watch. PS. Colt Brennan sucks. :)[/quote]

Kaepernick is a wasted pick when we can get someone like Rodney Hudson or Wisnewski to protect a decent QB of the future, like Mallett or the guys for next years class.


When I think of us drafting Kaepernick I think of us drafting Malcolm Kelly and Devin Thomas that year, wasted picks!

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Well, I don't think this FO has really out and out wasted any picks (not including picks traded for players )so far, so I will give them some breathing room if they go qb.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;797941]Kaepernick is a wasted pick when we can get someone like Rodney Hudson or Wisnewski to protect a decent QB of the future, like Mallett or the guys for next years class.


When I think of us drafting Kaepernick I think of us drafting Malcolm Kelly and Devin Thomas that year, wasted picks![/quote]

The sad part is you've actually made yourself think that its true. Who would ever compare two mediocre position players like them with Kaepernick who is 6'5" and has freakish athletic ability to go with great mobility? I'm not saying he is a day 1 starter. However I think he can be a good quarterback for us and saying he is a wasted pick is absurd!

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[quote=Lotus;797817]They were thinking that they are just one big-time player away from the big dance.[/quote]

I have news for them. They're not. Their defense got taken apart by Green Bay. This guy better be in the class of a T.O. or Randy Moss. Otherwise they got taken. Way too many picks to give up for a rookie wr.

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On the flip side, gotta give Mike Holmgren credit. He should go to jail for stealing from Atlanta.

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[quote=skinsfan69;798010]I have news for them. They're not. Their defense got taken apart by Green Bay. This guy better be in the class of a T.O. or Randy Moss. Otherwise they got taken. Way too many picks to give up for a rookie wr.[/quote]

They could have saved the picks to use on D, and picked up one of the free agent WRs that probably would have more of an immediate impact than Jones will. I definitely think they gave up too much.

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[quote=SkinzWin;797963]The sad part is you've actually made yourself think that its true. Who would ever compare two mediocre position players like them with Kaepernick who is 6'5" and has freakish athletic ability to go with great mobility? I'm not saying he is a day 1 starter. However I think he can be a good quarterback for us and saying he is a wasted pick is absurd![/quote]

Unless they could get him later, I agree that it would more than likely be a wasted pick. We have too many other spots to try and fill than to take a big risk on a qb that may be good, but just as likely and perhaps more than likely, will never be the franchise qb that we desperately need. This class just lacks that type of qb. Next year looks to be the better draft qb wise.

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[quote=skinsfan69;798010]I have news for them. They're not. Their defense got taken apart by Green Bay. This guy better be in the class of a T.O. or Randy Moss. Otherwise they got taken. Way too many picks to give up for a rookie wr.[/quote]

Hey, I was not arguing that they are just one player away. I simply argued that they seem to think so. I agree with you.

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As much as I approve as the trade down, pick up a stud in Kerrigan and an extra 2nd round pick.....

I HATE TENESSEE!!!!!!!!!!! $#%*y(u&*%&#%#^

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[quote=Son Of Man;798094]As much as I approve as the trade down, pick up a stud in Kerrigan and an extra 2nd round pick.....

I HATE TENESSEE!!!!!!!!!!! $#%*y(u&*%&#%#^[/quote]

I love Bud Adams right now. He made the blunder so we won't have to.

He'll be flipping off Locker from the owner's box by week 6.

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[quote=SkinzWin;797963]The sad part is you've actually made yourself think that its true. Who would ever compare two mediocre position players like them with Kaepernick who is 6'5" and has freakish athletic ability to go with great mobility? I'm not saying he is a day 1 starter. However I think he can be a good quarterback for us and saying he is a wasted pick is absurd![/quote]

Whose to say Kaepernick is going to be good, because those guys coming out of college had those measuables that Kaepernick has that makes you want him.

The thing I don't like about Kaepernick, is the offense he played in, the competition he went against, and the fact that he can't read defenses. He reminds me of an Alex Smith, Nate Davis type of QB.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;797941]

Kaepernick is a wasted pick when we can get someone like Rodney Hudson or Wisnewski to protect a decent QB of the future[/quote]


Totally agree, I WANT A CENTER, and I dont want to pick up one in the 7th round or some UFA. Grab a high tier center if he is available. Rabach has to go. Our interior line needs help, and center would be a perfect position to address. I dont want Mallet or any of these other suspect QBs. The next QB we draft needs to be a stud, no more Patrick Ramseys and Jason Campbells to waist 3 years on trying to figure out if they got IT or not.

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[quote=REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE;798215]Totally agree, I WANT A CENTER, and I dont want to pick up one in the 7th round or some UFA. Grab a high tier center if he is available. Rabach has to go. Our interior line needs help, and center would be a perfect position to address. I dont want Mallet or any of these other suspect QBs. The next QB we draft needs to be a stud, no more Patrick Ramseys and Jason Campbells to waist 3 years on trying to figure out if they got IT or not.[/quote]

We run a ZBS, so a guy like Kelce is totally possible.

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[quote=REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE;798215]Totally agree, I WANT A CENTER, and I dont want to pick up one in the 7th round or some UFA. Grab a high tier center if he is available. Rabach has to go. Our interior line needs help, and center would be a perfect position to address. I dont want Mallet or any of these other suspect QBs. The next QB we draft needs to be a stud, no more Patrick Ramseys and Jason Campbells to waist 3 years on trying to figure out if they got IT or not.[/quote]

It doesn't seem like there are any available. Though technically we do have a fourth round pick Center in Kory L (drafted by Shanny the year he was fired). So the real solution might be finding a Guard that allows Kory to move back to his natural position. And if you look at the history of Shanahan lineman rounds 3-5 are the sweet spot.


Dan Neil 3rd round 96
Matt Lepsis Undrafted 96

Lennie Friedman G 2nd round last pick 1999

Cooper Carlisle Round 4 2000

Ben Hamilton Guard Round 4 2001

George Foster Tackle Round 1 2004

Chris Meyers Round 4 2005

Chris Kuper Round 5 2006

Kory Lichtensteiger 2008 Round 4

Ryand Clady 2008 Round 1

Ryan Harris 2007 Round 3

Trent Williams 2010 Round 1