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[quote=NC_Skins;882692]If we give up a 3rd rounder for Hoyer, I'm going to drop kick a mofo. Hell no.....lol What's the difference between Hoyer and Beck? Dude had a good pre-season so now he's the new Pineapple Jesus.[/quote]

Well, the 3rd rounder is just my guess. I have no idea what he'll be tendered at. But considering what some guys like Whitehurst (for example) went through, 3rd rounder is not that much.

Plus. Hoyer hasn't failed in the regular season as Beck has. So, that's one advantage. The positive power of the unknown. Also, he's only 26 years old.

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Funny thing about the NFL is it's such a copycat league. Last year the Packers won with Godgers, so all the buzz was about getting a demi-god at QB. Now this year with the Giants winning I'm feeling like we need to get a great supporting cast and a QB that can be elite in crunch time, even if he's average to above-average most of the time.

[quote=SmootSmack;882691]Or maybe Hoyer becomes another Matt Hasselbeck[/quote]

Better yet Hoyer could become another Matt Schuab. People should keep in mind that a lot of Schuabs value was built up in the preseason.
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What I find semi-amusing though is people talk all the time about bringing in someone like Peyton Manning and having someone learn from him so they can have a chance to study one of the best in the game. What about sitting behind Tom Brady? Doesn't that count for something?

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[quote=SmootSmack;882695]Plus. Hoyer hasn't failed in the regular season as Beck has. So, that's one advantage. The positive power of the unknown. Also, he's only 26 years old.[/quote]


Well, Beck would look good in New England. Had Hoyer been in any of those games that Beck played and we'd be saying the same thing. He's garbage.

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[quote=30gut;882688]No team in any situation trades a QB they consider to be franchise caliber.
And if they draft RGIII and attempt to trade Bradford (i don't think they will) it says that the new staff doesn't view Bradford as a franchise caliber QB.
And if they don't view him as a franchise caliber QB they can't turn around and expect premium compensation for him.

If they draft RGIII its certainly a negative on his value.
To be clear I still think Bradford is a franchise caliber QB and I don't think they'll draft RGIII and try to trade Bradford.[/quote]

I hear what your saying but I don't really agree. I wouldn't mind the Redskins trying to make that case to get a better deal for Bradford though.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;882697]What I find semi-amusing though is people talk all the time about bringing in someone like Peyton Manning and having someone learn from him so they can have a chance to study one of the best in the game. What about sitting behind Tom Brady? Doesn't that count for something?[/quote]

That's because Bill Belichick is the devil and that's how the Pats win games :FIREdevil

On a serious note, although I know injury is a factor but so far Cassell has done a better job in his first year compared to Kolb's first year. I think my problem with Hoyer is giving up picks once again. I'd rather give up picks to get Luck or RG3.

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If we get Payton I think we will trade down.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;882722]If we get Payton I think we will trade down.[/quote]

I personally think unless someone like RGIII falls to us or they really like Blackmon, we'll end up trading down.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;882722]If we get Payton I think we will trade down.[/quote]

What are we going to do with a dead HoFer?


If Peyton Manning is healthy and can be signed as a free agent, I'd consider it, but if we have to give up draft picks, no thank you. I'm also not interested in Weedon, it would be Chris Weinke all over again. If we're gonna have to give up picks for a qb, go all in and get Luck.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;882729]I personally think unless someone like RGIII falls to us or they really like Blackmon, we'll end up trading down.[/quote]

I don't see why they wouldn't like Blackmon.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;882733]I don't see why they wouldn't like Blackmon.[/quote]

He seems to play like a combination of TO and Brandon Marshall. Big body and makes yards after the catch. If we can't get one of Luck or RGIII, I'd be just fine with Blackmon.

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I think if we don't sign a QB in FA we will pick Weeden, If we sign a FA QB we will be going after Luck, RGIII, Bradford, Tannehill or etc. in the draft. I like Weeden but he would be older than most FA. Weeden makes sense if he starts right away IMO.

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So, during a Joe Theismann interview today, the Lebatard Show reported that we'll be signing Peyton Manning once he's released. They cited a source, so I did a search but could only find this: [url=http://tracking.si.com/2012/02/06/peyton-manning-may-want-to-play-for-redskins-if-released/]Peyton Manning May Want To Play For Redskins If Released | SI Tracking Blog – Tracking the MLB, NBA, NFL, NHL, and NCAA On Twitter[/url]

They asked Joe Theismann his thoughts, and he was pretty upset and surprised the Skins hadn't learned anything from the McNabb debacle. He feels it's time to draft a QB and groom him to be our guy. I agree.

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I think it's time to get a young QB be it ours or someone else's IMO.

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[quote=theJBexperience;882748]They asked Joe Theismann his thoughts, and he was pretty upset and surprised the Skins hadn't learned anything from the McNabb debacle. He feels it's time to draft a QB and groom him to be our guy. I agree.[/quote]


Joey T is a dumbass. It's not like they would be trading for him, and there is nothing that says they wouldn't draft a rookie QB even if they did bring him in. In fact, I'm quite certain that if he is brought in, expect a rookie QB to be drafted as well.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;882729]I personally think unless someone like RGIII falls to us or they really like Blackmon, we'll end up trading down.[/quote]

If Blackmon, Kalil, RG3, and Luck are all gone -- there's no one worth trading UP for at 6 that I can think of, so I think trading out of the slot may be hard.

If Blackmon IS there at 6 (and we dont trade up for a QB) we have to take him. Possible game changer.

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[quote=NC_Skins;882750]Joey T is a dumbass. It's not like they would be trading for him, and there is nothing that says they wouldn't draft a rookie QB even if they did bring him in. In fact, I'm quite certain that if he is brought in, expect a rookie QB to be drafted as well.[/quote]

I agree 100%.

BTW we are talking about Peyton Freaking Manning!!!! Who would have thought even during the lockout that PM may be a Redskin in 2012?

NO ONE on this site or any where in the country for that matter.

All of this PM talk is getting me a little excited with anticipation and I need to back it down a little so I am not upset if this whole thing does not happen.

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if we get a QB in FA, I'd look at blackmon or claiborne (or OL or maybe even RGIII) at #6, then fill QB in the 2nd or whatnot.

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[quote=theJBexperience;882748]So, during a Joe Theismann interview today, the Lebatard Show reported that we'll be signing Peyton Manning once he's released. They cited a source, so I did a search but could only find this: [url=http://tracking.si.com/2012/02/06/peyton-manning-may-want-to-play-for-redskins-if-released/]Peyton Manning May Want To Play For Redskins If Released | SI Tracking Blog – Tracking the MLB, NBA, NFL, NHL, and NCAA On Twitter[/url]

They asked Joe Theismann his thoughts, and he was pretty upset and surprised the Skins hadn't learned anything from the McNabb debacle. He feels it's time to draft a QB and groom him to be our guy. I agree.[/quote]

The mistake was not drafting a couple young QBs in waiting. The McNabb debacle was worth the risk, but Shanny should have had a younger guy or 2 behind McNabb learning Kyles system. We can get Peyton, if healthy, and draft a couple guys this year.

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[B]Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open[/B]
If Peyton Manning is released, Redskins are expected to pursue him. Redskins also prepared to pursue free agents Matt Flynn and Kyle Orton.

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[quote=Chico23231;882757]The mistake was not drafting a couple young QBs in waiting. The McNabb debacle was worth the risk, but Shanny should have had a younger guy or 2 behind McNabb learning Kyles system. We can get Peyton, if healthy, and draft a couple guys this year.[/quote]

Preach!

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[quote=Dirtbag59;882758][B]Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open[/B]
If Peyton Manning is released, Redskins are expected to pursue him. Redskins also prepared to pursue free agents Matt Flynn and Kyle Orton.[/quote]

Well he's also said he thinks the Dolphins are the favorites to land him.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;882758][B]Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open[/B]
If Peyton Manning is released, Redskins are expected to pursue him. Redskins also prepared to pursue free agents Matt Flynn and Kyle Orton.[/quote]


You do understand that this is different then "Peyton wanting to play for the Skins" ,right?I fully expect the Skins to go after any and all but Peyton will not play for the Skins for many of the reason given but biggest one is that Shannahans will not turnover control of the O to him and that's not whay Peyton does.(money is not an issue)

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If we sign a healthy PM beleive me we are going OL in FA & Draft without a doubt.

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[quote=SmootSmack;882760]Well he's also said he thinks the Dolphins are the favorites to land him.[/quote]

I heard that as well but I still say don't count out the Cardinals.

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[quote=NC_Skins;882750]Joey T is a dumbass. It's not like they would be trading for him, and there is nothing that says they wouldn't draft a rookie QB even if they did bring him in. In fact, I'm quite certain that if he is brought in, expect a rookie QB to be drafted as well.[/quote]

Lebatard brought up the same point, and Theismann said there was no way Peyton would let that happen. He's not going to be grooming his replacement. He went on to talk about how Peyton is a control freak, and he'll run his offense, not Kyle's, and this could be really bad for the Skins. He seemed like he was in complete disbelief.

[quote=Giantone;882767]You do understand that this is different then "Peyton wanting to play for the Skins" ,right?I fully expect the Skins to go after any and all but Peyton will not play for the Skins for many of the reason given but biggest one is that Shannahans will not turnover control of the O to him and that's not whay Peyton does.(money is not an issue)[/quote]

[url=http://tracking.si.com/2012/02/06/peyton-manning-may-want-to-play-for-redskins-if-released/]Peyton Manning May Want To Play For Redskins If Released | SI Tracking Blog – Tracking the MLB, NBA, NFL, NHL, and NCAA On Twitter[/url]

There ya go. Interest is allegedly mutual.

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[quote=theJBexperience;882787]Lebatard brought up the same point, and Theismann said there was no way Peyton would let that happen. He's not going to be grooming his replacement. [U]He went on to talk about how Peyton is a control freak, and he'll run his offense, not Kyle's,[/U] and this could be really bad for the Skins. He seemed like he was in complete disbelief.[/quote]


Joey T doesn't know a god damn thing about Peyton. Did he coach him? Was he working for the Colts? He's really talking out his ass. Joey T doesn't want another QB to come to Redskins and overshadow his legend.

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Wow. Theismann just re-tweeted me.

Joe Theismann @Theismann7 Reply Retweet Favorited · Open
RT @Joe_Benson: @LeBatardShow No Source Insider Stugotz has got @Theismann7 fired up about this Manning to the Skins RUMOR/ don't c it

Stugotz reported it like it was breaking news, so Theismann reacted. I guess now he realizes it was just rumors and unlikely ones.

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This is pretty funny. There are Vegas odds on where Manning goes. :rofl:

New York Jets - 2/1
Miami Dolphins - 3/1
Washington Redskins - 4/1
Seattle Seahawks - 5/1
Arizona Cardinals - 6/1
Baltimore Ravens - 7/1
Houston Texans - 9/1
San Francisco 49ers - 10/1

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[quote=Higskin;882793]This is pretty funny. There are Vegas odds on where Manning goes. :rofl:

New York Jets - 2/1
Miami Dolphins - 3/1
Washington Redskins - 4/1
Seattle Seahawks - 5/1
Arizona Cardinals - 6/1
Baltimore Ravens - 7/1
Houston Texans - 9/1
San Francisco 49ers - 10/1[/quote]

Well if he goes to the jets, ravens, cardinals or texans that makes all of there starters available and at a very discounted price IMO.

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[quote=theJBexperience;882791]Wow. Theismann just re-tweeted me.

Joe Theismann @Theismann7 Reply Retweet Favorited · Open
RT @Joe_Benson: @LeBatardShow No Source Insider Stugotz has got @Theismann7 fired up about this Manning to the Skins RUMOR/ don't c it

Stugotz reported it like it was breaking news, so Theismann reacted. I guess now he realizes its just rumors and unlikely ones.[/quote]

One thing about JoeyT that I like is he stays in touch with the fans.

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what day do you think the colts release manning?

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[quote=Higskin;882793]This is pretty funny. There are Vegas odds on where Manning goes. :rofl:

New York Jets - 2/1
Miami Dolphins - 3/1
Washington Redskins - 4/1
Seattle Seahawks - 5/1
Arizona Cardinals - 6/1
Baltimore Ravens - 7/1
Houston Texans - 9/1
San Francisco 49ers - 10/1[/quote]

Peyton to the Jets. Sanchez to the Redskins. It's happening people!!

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[quote=los panda;882797]what day do you think the colts release manning?[/quote]

Day after Irsay and Manning meet. :cheeky-sm

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i saw them holding hands at an after party last night

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[quote=SmootSmack;882800]Peyton to the Jets. Sanchez to the Redskins. It's happening people!![/quote]

pleasssse be kidding, i would rather freaking colt mccoy than dirty sanchez. This would be a nightmare!

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[quote=SmootSmack;882800]Peyton to the Jets. Sanchez to the Redskins. It's happening people!![/quote]

Please, no!!

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and if it is happening, what are the arrangements?

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[quote=SmootSmack;882800]Peyton to the Jets. Sanchez to the Redskins. It's happening people!![/quote]

If this did happen what do u think we would give up to get him.

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[quote=redskins5044;882808]If this did happen what do u think we would give up to get him.[/quote]

They should give us something to take him off their hands! Sanchez is trash, i really hope we dont do this

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[quote=SmootSmack;882800]Peyton to the Jets. Sanchez to the Redskins. It's happening people!![/quote]

Do you see what you have done?!