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The Texans are apparently cutting Swearinger.

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Here's a link:[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000492085/article/dj-swearinger-informed-hell-no-longer-be-texan]D.J. Swearinger informed he'll no longer be on Texans - NFL.com[/url]

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Swearinger is another SS, not that we don't need a SS, but it'd be nice to find a starting caliber FS. BTW, I think of Goldson as more of a SS from what I have read about him (I could be wrong).

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If I had to pick between Arrington or Swearinger right now...its not close, Kyle Arrington would be a great pick up for us...Swearinger is not gonna make it to his second contract before the team that drafted him wants out. Big red flag. Arrington can shut down the slot and provide depth on the outside.

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I agree about Arrington though I wouldn't be surprised if he resigns with N.E.

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[url=http://deadspin.com/chris-christie-used-tax-dollars-to-buy-so-much-damn-foo-1703619147]Chris Christie Used Tax Dollars To Buy So Much Damn Food At NFL Games[/url]

Christie’s most notable spending spree occurred during the 2010 and 2011 NFL football seasons at MetLife Stadium, where the New York’s Giants and Jets play their home games. New Jersey’s governor traditionally enjoys free use of luxury boxes for games and other events at the government-owned venue, but food and beverages cost extra.

On 58 occasions, Christie used a debit card to pay a total of $82,594 to Delaware North Sportservice, which operates the concessions at MetLife. The governor’s office did not provide any receipts, business reasons or names of individuals entertained, but defended the expense.

Thats your tax money Jersey. what a fat f*ck

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That is $1,424.03 per game.

Sounds about right .... for FF Chrsitie and 49 of his closest friends.

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[quote=Chico23231;1113199]Im a little surprised by the cut and I agree with you. Arrington at the minimum is better than both Amerson and Porter. I would give him a look for sure, he would provide excellent depth.[/quote]

sign me up for Kyle... But I think he resigns with the Patriots... It's a contract issue and more then they just want to cut an issue..... So I think if you want them we're going to have to pony up some cash but he would be the best slot corner on the team and that's a big hole we have right now.

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Brady suspended 4 games. Losing 2016 1st round pick and 2017 4th rounder. Patriots fined a million $.

[url=http://www.cnbc.com/id/102650340]Tom Brady suspended without pay for 4 games of regular season[/url]

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Brady will appeal and end up with a two game suspension.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1113220]Brady suspended 4 games. Losing 2016 1st round pick and 2017 4th rounder. Patriots fined a million $.

[url=http://www.cnbc.com/id/102650340]Tom Brady suspended without pay for 4 games of regular season[/url][/quote]

haha...they got their balls kicked in by Goodell. Serves them right for lying.

Goodell went all Adam Silver on these guys.

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So much for Brady being untouchable like some thought.

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So Brady gets a longer suspension for deflating footballs than Ray Rice got for punching his girlfriend?

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I would say Brady, knowing that the NFL was going to investigate this to the fullest and treat a deflated ball investigation by 1.2 psi like a multiple homicide, he just should have come clean and told the truth. The 4 games seems fair cause he lied, but the draft picks is just overboard. This was an individual, not an organizational thing.

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You can believe that Kraft's mission in life has become See Goodell....gone

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[quote=SirLK26;1113225]So Brady gets a longer suspension for deflating footballs than Ray Rice got for punching his girlfriend?[/quote]
Well, perhaps if there had been a video of him deflating the balls.......

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Little harsh IMO for Brady, but 1st and a 4th round pick on top of that is like dayummmm

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I'm think its more about the NFLs integrity and rule tampering.
= setting an example for possible future wrong doers
I think the whole this is fuxxored.
If I was Brady I would tell the media in a polite way that Goodell is a giant douche bag and as a result of that.....I'm retiring.....bye

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Someone who is business savvy please tell me just how much does a one million dollar fine affect someone who is as wealthy as Robert Kraft. My brother and I seem to believe that for a business owner like that, one million dollars isn't really jack shit, but not really seeing / understanding that kind of wealth, i'm not 100% sure. My gut says it's no big deal for a multi-millionare guy to lose a petty million dollars...

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1113220]Brady suspended 4 games. Losing 2016 1st round pick and 2017 4th rounder. Patriots fined a million $.

[url=http://www.cnbc.com/id/102650340]Tom Brady suspended without pay for 4 games of regular season[/url][/quote]

Patriots will win the SB next year, or at least go on another 15 (or 18) and 0 run. Belicheck will drive this into them all year long, how people think they win because of cheating/deflated balls. He will absolutely have the fill in qb ready.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1113232]Someone who is business savvy please tell me just how much does a one million dollar fine affect someone who is as wealthy as Robert Kraft. My brother and I seem to believe that for a business owner like that, one million dollars isn't really jack shit, but not really seeing / understanding that kind of wealth, i'm not 100% sure. My gut says it's no big deal for a multi-millionare guy to lose a petty million dollars...[/quote]

Kraft is worth about $4 billion so do the math.

Either way nobody likes to lose money, especially those with a shit ton of it.

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Based on Matty's estimate of $4B net worth, a $1M fine is equivalent to a $12.50 fine for someone making 50K/year.

There. I did the math.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1113230]I'm think its more about the NFLs integrity and rule tampering.
= setting an example for possible future wrong doers
I think the whole this is fuxxored.
If I was Brady I would tell the media in a polite way that Goodell is a giant douche bag and as a result of that.....I'm retiring.....bye[/quote]They never should have let teams adjust game balls anyways. Until deflategate I had no idea teams didn't always play with the same condition football.

According to a steeler fan buddy, the practice of letting teams tweak the balls started around 2007 with Manning and Brady demanding it. Is that true? (My friend does froth at the mouth whenever Peyton and Brady are mentioned, anyways.)

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;1113236]Based on Matty's estimate of $4B net worth, a $1M fine is equivalent to a $12.50 fine for someone making 50K/year.

There. I did the math.

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Dang that's 12 McDs sausage biscuits!

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1113232]Someone who is business savvy please tell me just how much does a one million dollar fine affect someone who is as wealthy as Robert Kraft. My brother and I seem to believe that for a business owner like that, one million dollars isn't really jack shit, but not really seeing / understanding that kind of wealth, i'm not 100% sure. My gut says it's no big deal for a multi-millionare guy to lose a petty million dollars...[/quote]

Brady alone has made Kraft millions upon millions of dollars. That's pocket change for Kraft. But still, a million dollars is a millions dollars.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1113226]I would say Brady, knowing that the NFL was going to investigate this to the fullest and treat a deflated ball investigation by 1.2 psi like a multiple homicide, he just should have come clean and told the truth. The 4 games seems fair cause he lied, but the draft picks is just overboard. This was an individual, not an organizational thing.[/quote]

it was an org thing. it's not like brady was doing this on his own. apparently it's been going on for a while per the pats plunge in fumble % vs the league average. how to you make up for unfair competitive advantage? draft picks seems fair enough. just my opinion.

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[quote=Mattyk;1113234]Kraft is worth about $4 billion so do the math.

Either way nobody likes to lose money, especially those with a shit ton of it.[/quote]

Actually, they aren't losing money.


Since Brady's suspension is 4 games without pay the team is actually making a net profit after the fine. Leave it to rich old white men to find a way to profit out of this. :laughing-

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1113236]Based on Matty's estimate of $4B net worth, a $1M fine is equivalent to a $12.50 fine for someone making 50K/year.

There. I did the math.

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I can count on Joe for some factual stuff. :joecool:

Good work.

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[quote=That Guy;1113243]it was an org thing. it's not like brady was doing this on his own. apparently it's been going on for a while per the pats plunge in fumble % vs the league average. how to you make up for unfair competitive advantage? draft picks seems fair enough. just my opinion.[/quote]

The team must be accountable for their players, like a father is responsible for their child breaking something at the store or the police chief takes the fall for the vigilante police officer. If you make teams accountable for their players, they spend more effort making sure their players fall in line.


Personally I think they could have gotten more - I feel this amounts to a slap in the wrist. The league should never have allowed Brady to play in the SuperBowl in the midst of the cheating scandal. Seems unfair that we do nothing wrong and get a $30 million salary cap penalty the day before free agency that set us back 2-4 years.. And yet the Patriots get caught cheating with major scandals twice in one decade, and lying about it on national TV -- and only get $1 million dollar fine and a few game suspension. Their division sucks and they still have every shot at making the playoffs this year.

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For Kraft paying $1M fine is chump change!

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[quote=JPPT1974;1113250]For Kraft paying $1M fine is chump change![/quote]

That's like saying for Mayweather getting socked in the face doesn't suck.

Getting socked in the face will always suck.

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Brady gets suspended and the Pats lose a first rd pick and the focus is all on Kraft's fine? Makes sense.

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I understand why Brady got punished. I am confused why Kraft/Patriots got punished though. I was under the impression that the report, which is what the punishment was based on, cleared pretty much everyone except for Brady and the two locker room guys.

To me it is like suspending a team for a drug violation. Doesn't make sense.

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[QUOTE=JPPT1974;1113250]For Kraft paying $1M fine is chump change![/QUOTE]
Especially, as was pointed out on twitter, if Brady serves a 4 game suspension they save 1.8 million. My guess though is the league plans on the suspension being reduced to 2 games in which case the fine simply keeps the patriots from keeping Brady's salary.

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[quote=donofriose;1113263]I understand why Brady got punished. I am confused why Kraft/Patriots got punished though. I was under the impression that the report, which is what the punishment was based on, cleared pretty much everyone except for Brady and the two locker room guys.

To me it is like suspending a team for a drug violation. Doesn't make sense.[/quote]

The NFL is obviously responding to the need to punish the organization for allowing a culture of cheating. Over the years, team management and ownership have looked the other way and denied everything in numerous cases of alleged or actual cheating. Bob Kraft has already said that he would accept the league's punishment so it's all over except for the dust and smoke settling. Now, Bob, go and sin no more.

BTW, the NFL doesn't need to prove that this culture of cheating exists to the same level that it would if this were a court case.

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I wish some of the morons in the media would realize/remember that Brady is also being punished for not cooperating with the investigation and basically lying the league.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/12/failure-to-produce-mcnally-one-more-time-made-it-easier-for-nfl-to-hammer-patriots/]Failure to produce McNally one more time made it easier for NFL to hammer Patriots | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Patriots really dug their own grave with how they handled the investigation.




[quote=Mattyk;1113262]Brady gets suspended and the Pats lose a first rd pick and the focus is all on Kraft's fine? Makes sense.[/quote]

Exactly. The draft picks were the biggest thing in my opinion. Even with Tom missing 4 games, they can still win that division.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1113269]I wish some of the morons in the media would realize/remember that Brady is also being punished for not cooperating with the investigation and basically lying the league.[/quote]

this. Cover up worse than the crime.

Brady and the Patriots acts of arrogance and entitlement is old. They have no one to blame but themselves. I hope they get no where on their appeal .

If your waiting for people in this country to stand up and be responsible, keep waiting.

If this sob would have just stood up and been accountable, with something along the lines of:

"This is a common practice along across the league and at every level of the game which I participated in...the league's standard of air pressure in the football is antiquated and needs revision. I should have taken a different direction and consulted the league to review the air pressure rules of the football. Even though I 100% do not believe this affected any outcome of any games, I am apologize for my actions, its wont happen again."

The media turds would then nod their heads in agreement and we wouldnt be here.

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[quote=Chico23231;1113203]If I had to pick between Arrington or Swearinger right now...its not close, Kyle Arrington would be a great pick up for us...Swearinger is not gonna make it to his second contract before the team that drafted him wants out. Big red flag. Arrington can shut down the slot and provide depth on the outside.[/quote]



Seems like it had a lot to do with him not wanting to play special teams.



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