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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1283486]195,000 additional deaths since Jan 20,2021. 1/2 as many as all of 2020. Not really a political post, other than the dates.

Nearly 600,000 total deaths. The Spanish Flu had roughly 675,000 in the US. For all our medical improvements, and we certainly have had them, death is death, and when it comes human science only goes so far.[/quote]

I'll politicize it for you. 194,999 more deaths that are Trump's fault. Maybe we can blame 1 on China, but that's racist, so we better not. Trump has personally killed another 195,000 people.

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Fucker Carlson at it again

[URL="https://factcheck.afp.com/tucker-carlson-misrepresents-government-data-covid-19-vaccines"]Tucker Carlson misrepresents government data on Covid-19 vaccines[/URL]

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[quote=MTK;1283502]Fucker Carlson at it again

[URL="https://factcheck.afp.com/tucker-carlson-misrepresents-government-data-covid-19-vaccines"]Tucker Carlson misrepresents government data on Covid-19 vaccines[/URL][/quote]

chico 's buddy.

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[quote=Chico23231;1283243][url]https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/als-biden-covid-vaccine-patents-b1841636.html[/url]

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/now/president-biden-must-uphold-promise-214100937.html[/url]


Here is Biden July 2020 committing to remove vaccine patents:

The answer is yes – yes, yes, yes," those were the words President Biden used when activist Ady Barkan asked him in a video appeal if the United States would share COVID-19 vaccine technology with the world and ensure that no patents would stand in the way of countries and companies mass producing lifesaving vaccines.

Another broken promise while my coworkers in India wait. Could have been done a month ago.[/quote]
chico just leave the country since you hate it so much.

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[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/11/briefing/outdoor-covid-transmission-cdc-number.html#click=https://t.co/hAqRi13vSb[/url]

A Misleading C.D.C. Number

When the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released new guidelines last month for mask wearing, it announced that “less than 10 percent” of Covid-19 transmission was occurring outdoors. Media organizations repeated the statistic, and it quickly became a standard description of the frequency of outdoor transmission.

But the number is almost certainly misleading.

It appears to be based partly on a misclassification of some Covid transmission that actually took place in enclosed spaces (as I explain below). An even bigger issue is the extreme caution of C.D.C. officials, who picked a benchmark — 10 percent — so high that nobody could reasonably dispute it.

That benchmark “seems to be a huge exaggeration,” as Dr. Muge Cevik, a virologist at the University of St. Andrews, said. In truth, the share of transmission that has occurred outdoors seems to be below 1 percent and may be below 0.1 percent, multiple epidemiologists told me. The rare outdoor transmission that has happened almost all seems to have involved crowded places or close conversation.


Cdc doing a poor job with messaging again…the media apparently catching up with what people with common sense knew 8-10 months ago.

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A simple complaint about bureaucracy and the idiocy of government. And, I realize this is so very very low on the scale of importance, but I feel like bitching so here it is:

My son and I got the first shot on Sunday, everything went well. They give us the vaccine record card. And that's my bitch. Do they make it a standard credit card size so it fits in a wallet? No, they make it just big enough to be damaged in a basic folding wallet. Like I said, just a bitch because they could have cut down the size to a credit card or driver's license dimension, and dropped of 2 other lines and simple trimming of the location fields. My site used stickers, but maybe some sites hand write the info. If adjusted the size by about 1/2" in width and length, it would have been fine.

As for the shot, my son has a bad case of Covid Arm, about a baseball size rash around the injection site. I didn't have any adverse effects.

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If people could act like adults and just wear masks indoors, get vax, and not do large condensed outdoor gatherings ... I think the CDC could give more detailed and exact recommendations.

But we are a country of children who pout and whine and play games.

If CDC says "outdoor transmission is negligible if we dont do large condensed gatherings" .. all Muricans will hear is "we are allowed to go outside" and the "no condensed gatherings" part gets lost in the sauce.

We as a collective group cant be spoken to like we are adults. Because we think in bumper sticker size limits. if a sentence has a comma, we dont read or remember the ", but .." part.

Its like my daughter. I can tell her no sweets after dinner .. she asks if she can have hot chocolate.

we are a nation of morons with the attention span of a sugar riddled 8 year old who wears Iron Man pajamas to the grocery store.

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[quote=SunnySide;1283589]If people could act like adults and just wear masks indoors,...[/quote]
so we can gather outside now Murica :laughing2

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1283605]so we can gather outside now Murica :laughing2[/quote]

Wear your masks everywhere, all the time. They're fantastic and work. If you don't wear them religiously, we will shame you.

But we really can't live our lives until the vaccine, because that will really really work. If you don't get the vaccine, we will shame you.

The mask works and the vaccine works, but still wear your masks all the time and still alter how you live your lives. And now add in a possible yearly booster shot.

The goalposts never get moved closer, always further.

I'm genuinely curious if a lot of liberals just don't care about freedoms or don't realize they're giving them away, until it's too late?

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Wearing a mask is a minor inconvenience it's not about freedom.

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oh the irony

[URL="https://www.vice.com/en/article/88nnwg/anti-maskers-ready-to-start-maskingto-protect-themselves-from-the-vaccinated"]Anti-Maskers Ready to Start Masking—to Protect Themselves From the Vaccinated[/URL]

Re: Coronavirus (political)
 

[quote=SunnySide;1283589]If people could act like adults and just wear masks indoors, get vax, and not do large condensed outdoor gatherings ... I think the CDC could give more detailed and exact recommendations.

But we are a country of children who pout and whine and play games.

If CDC says "outdoor transmission is negligible if we dont do large condensed gatherings" .. all Muricans will hear is "we are allowed to go outside" and the "no condensed gatherings" part gets lost in the sauce.

We as a collective group cant be spoken to like we are adults. Because we think in bumper sticker size limits. if a sentence has a comma, we dont read or remember the ", but .." part.

Its like my daughter. I can tell her no sweets after dinner .. she asks if she can have hot chocolate.

we are a nation of morons with the attention span of a sugar riddled 8 year old who wears Iron Man pajamas to the grocery store.[/quote]

Government shouldn’t lie about the science…and we know this wasn’t acceptable last year, why is it now?

We also know and most with common sense have clearly known: transmission is extremely rare outside and data says schools have never been an outbreak source. Schools are safe and the flu is historically more deadly than covid when it comes to kids.

I think the mask requirement will be dropping this summer for indoor activities as vaccines continue to roll out. Which is a great thing

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1283629]Wear your masks everywhere, all the time. They're fantastic and work. If you don't wear them religiously, we will shame you.

But we really can't live our lives until the vaccine, because that will really really work. If you don't get the vaccine, we will shame you.

The mask works and the vaccine works, but still wear your masks all the time and still alter how you live your lives. And now add in a possible yearly booster shot.

The goalposts never get moved closer, always further.

I'm genuinely curious if a lot of liberals just don't care about freedoms or don't realize they're giving them away, until it's too late?[/quote]

This is either the funniest parody post Ive seen in a while .. or exactly what I was talking about in terms of people acting like children throwing a temper tantrum when you tell them its bed time.

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[quote=SunnySide;1283658]This is either the funniest parody post Ive seen in a while .. or exactly what I was talking about in terms of people acting like children throwing a temper tantrum when you tell them its bed time.[/quote]

You do you SunnySide. You're the smartest man in the room.

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[quote=MTK;1283635]Wearing a mask is a minor inconvenience it's not about freedom.[/quote]

It's not about wearing a mask or whether its an inconvenience or worse. I've worn my mask like a good little boy since the day it was required. Still do.

It's about still wearing a mask, involuntarily, when there is no reason to.

Same thing with gatherings. Get vaccinated but still don't be inside with other people. I'd rather live my life and take my chances possibly getting sick then still live under government orders despite being vaccinated.

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It’s not about science to libs anymore…it’s laughable political theater

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Funny how the party of personal choice and freedom gets irked when someone exercises those rights. Who cares if someone wants to wear a mask inside, outside, or on the fucking moon. At the end of the day they actually work to help reduce the spread of respiratory illness, that's a fact. But my freedoms... get the F outta here.

Re: Coronavirus (political)
 

[quote=MTK;1283671]Funny how the party of personal choice and freedom gets irked when someone exercises those rights. Who cares if someone wants to wear a mask inside, outside, or on the fucking moon. At the end of the day they actually work to help reduce the spread of respiratory illness, that's a fact. But my freedoms... get the F outta here.[/quote]

Not sure it I'm lumped in as part of this. But I don't give a fuck if you wear your mask in the shower if you want. I specifically said involuntarily in my previous post. If you're more comfortable wearing a mask, then go for it. I think we will see a certain % of people wearing masks all the time going forwards. Nothing wrong with it.

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Just tired of the mask drama in general. The fact that being asked to put a piece of material over your nose and mouth to help stop the spread of a deadly virus has been met with such resistance and bitching and moaning from some out there is just embarrassing and childish.

I too think they're here to stay in some capacity, especially during flu season. Can't wait to keep this drama going.

Re: Coronavirus (political)
 

[quote=MTK;1283678][B]Just tired of the mask drama in general.[/B] The fact that being asked to put a piece of material over your nose and mouth to help stop the spread of a deadly virus has been met with such resistance and bitching and moaning from some out there is just embarrassing and childish.

I too think they're here to stay in some capacity, especially during flu season. Can't wait to keep this drama going.[/quote]

I get this. And I do wear my mask when I go into a store, etc.

But I think it's also reasonable to ask questions. I just don't trust government types in general. Don't think most of them truly have our best interest at heart.

I'm not out there protesting and licking door handles. I'll keep wearing it when required. I just hope the requirements eventually get lowered.

I've pretty much just accepted 2021 as a mask year.

C'mon 2022!

Re: Coronavirus (political)
 

[quote=MTK;1283678]Just tired of the mask drama in general. The fact that being asked to put a piece of material over your nose and mouth to help stop the spread of a deadly virus has been met with such resistance and bitching and moaning from some out there is just embarrassing and childish.

I too think they're here to stay in some capacity, especially during flu season. Can't wait to keep this drama going.[/quote]

Just don’t bitch and complain as the rest take it off and go wherever we want.

If you’re vaccinated then you don’t need it. I understand if those over 55 years of age still wear it indoors. But when the liberal states start rolling them back in mid June I don’t want to hear “this makes since”…you are once again late to the science train.

All schools open and if vaccinated then mask off

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lol the right riding the science train, that's funny

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[quote=Chico23231;1283716]






If you’re vaccinated then you don’t need it. [/quote]




[B]This, this statement shows just how ignorant you are of the subject.[/B]

Re: Coronavirus (political)
 

[URL="https://www.axios.com/cdc-mask-guidance-vaccinated-4129e50f-c6ed-4d8f-badb-fb7c94fc14a9.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_content=health-cdcmaskguidance"]CDC says fully vaccinated people don't have to wear masks indoors[/URL]

hallalujah

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[quote=MTK;1283788][URL="https://www.axios.com/cdc-mask-guidance-vaccinated-4129e50f-c6ed-4d8f-badb-fb7c94fc14a9.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_content=health-cdcmaskguidance"]CDC says fully vaccinated people don't have to wear masks indoors[/URL]

hallalujah[/quote]

I’ll allow you to jump on the caboose of the science train. Vaccines work, take off the mask

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[quote=Chico23231;1283789]I’ll allow you to jump on the caboose of the science train. Vaccines work, take off the mask[/quote]

I was never off the train son

Masks work too, especially if you're in close quarters with people, even outside. Would you go to a game or concert right now and stand shoulder to shoulder with people with no mask on?

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[quote=MTK;1283791]I was never off the train son

Masks work too, especially if you're in close quarters with people, even outside. Would you go to a game or concert right now and stand shoulder to shoulder with people with no mask on?[/quote]

Yup.

I guess that polling info and data of extended unemployment, job numbers, inflation and consumer pricing index got the ball rolling from the Biden administration.

They know exactly how shitty it looked.

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Well I take that back, at a major event where you can be confident everyone is being screened properly upon entry, I'd feel ok without a mask. Still not feeling in a rush to get back into major crowds though.

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[quote=MTK;1283788][URL="https://www.axios.com/cdc-mask-guidance-vaccinated-4129e50f-c6ed-4d8f-badb-fb7c94fc14a9.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_content=health-cdcmaskguidance"]CDC says fully vaccinated people don't have to wear masks indoors[/URL]

hallalujah[/quote]

The outrage on social media about this is truly delicious

People are broken

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People have had fits over mask guidance from the jump, so what else is new

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Hearing the narrative change from MSNBC is gonna be something else. Joy Reid telling folks 10 days she is vaccinated yet wears 2 masks when she jogs

#clownshow

Remember the science didn’t change…. It’s getting politically inconvenient with the bad news about the economy

This:

“If you think that [B]suddenly science changed with the virus that today just became that magical day that we no longer needed masks[/B], and not, say an overwhelming news cycle of events for this WH, I don't know what to tell you.”

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[quote=Chico23231;1283789]I’ll allow you to jump on the caboose of the science train. Vaccines work, take off the mask[/quote]

I'll keep wearing my mask because I don't want people to think I'm a republican!:D



Oh and chico here is some science for you.

[url]https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/04/22/science/flu-season-coronavirus-pandemic.html[/url]

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If a business, employer or faith institution chooses to no longer require masks and physical distancing, the business, employer or faith institution must require visitors to show proof of vaccination and review the proof of vaccination. In that case, a business would need to have a policy for checking the vaccination status of customers and employees if they are not wearing masks. Fully vaccinated individuals would need to provide proof they’d been vaccinated if they want to remove face coverings and not observe physical distancing guidelines.

[url]https://ktvz.com/news/coronavirus/2021/05/18/new-oha-guidance-businesses-must-review-proof-of-vaccination-to-drop-mask-distance-requirements/[/url]

Well ... vaccine passports are a thing in Oregon now.

Seems dumb to me .. theres no helping the anti mask anti vax people, why even put random store workers on the front line to deal with these people.

AAnecdotally its the religious people I know or work with who wont get vaccinated. Open up churches, let them breath on each other and us vax people can go back to a normal life.

At this point .. once my kid gets the vaccine .. fuck them. Covid isnt going away with a 1/3 of our country being bratty 8 year olds.

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California = 1 of the last 3 states still forcing masks on vaccinated people. And all the way to June 15th.

I hate my home state.

The other 2 are New Jersey and Hawaii. No surprise there either.

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Media lied, refused to investigate the lab leak theory, now are walking it back saying it possible

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/media/critics-coronavirus-lab-leak-theory-critics-accuse-amnesia[/url]

As reporting on coronavirus lab leak theory grows, critics accuse media of suffering 'amnesia' on topic

Great Twitter thread here of the saved stories pushed by the lying media, how they dismissed lab leak theory simply because Trump and his State department claimed it was viable:

[url]https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1394797986048266242?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1394797986048266242%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fmedia%2Fcritics-coronavirus-lab-leak-theory-critics-accuse-amnesia[/url]

Can’t depend on mainstream media to put politics aside and search for the truth. Easier to lie and say orange man bad. Pathetic and yet another failure by the Washington Post, NYT, CNN, Politico, etc

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De Balsio is such a moron [url]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/24/nyregion/nyc-schools-reopening-remote-learning.html#:~:text=New%20York%20City%20will%20no,disruptions%20caused%20by%20the%20pandemic[/url].

No remote school in the fall? Guess what Bill you already had remote school prior to Covid. Every jurisdiction does because you have kids zoned for your school that cannot attend brick and mortar schools but still are legally entitled to an education. I know he wasn't referring to eliminating this but your words do matter and guess who has to deal with his political poor choice of words? Educators and administrators the people that have been getting shit on for ever. ass hat

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This could easily be under grind my gears. Go into a restaurant in Baltimore County max capacity 100% no masks in a county only 44% vaccinated. Kids outdoor summer camps? sorry have to be half capacity. Ass backwards.

Relatives. My brother refuses to get a vaccine because he believes it was created by Bill Gates to squash the rebellion gene that lead to the formation of America. Once we have the rebellion gene suppressed they will take our guns and make us compliant. Dip shit

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1284436]This could easily be under grind my gears. Go into a restaurant in Baltimore County max capacity 100% no masks in a county only 44% vaccinated. Kids outdoor summer camps? sorry have to be half capacity. Ass backwards.

Relatives. My brother refuses to get a vaccine because he believes it was created by Bill Gates to squash the rebellion gene that lead to the formation of America. Once we have the rebellion gene suppressed they will take our guns and make us compliant. Dip shit[/quote]

LOL, got a fellow employee like that . Trump is great everything else is a conspiracy . Work offered paid time off and a $250 bonus to get vaccinated and this guy won't do it. He comes back from Vacation on Wednesday and the mask restriction has been lifted for all vaccinated employees , he is the only one who will have to have a mask, he will shit!!!

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1284155]California = 1 of the last 3 states still forcing masks on vaccinated people. And all the way to June 15th.

I hate my home state.

The other 2 are New Jersey and Hawaii. No surprise there either.[/quote]

At least Cali is fun to live in during El Nino

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Idaho Lt. Governor makes her own choice while the Governor is out of state.

While I agree with her stance, lol, way out of bounds.

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/idaho-repeals-ban-mask-mandates-lt-gov-abuse-of-power[/url]