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[quote=Mattyk;704623]I know every average Joe sitting at home seems to have a solution but I think the fact they can't get it fixed speaks to what a cluster F of a problem is really is. This isn't your kitchen sink leaking here.

As far as turning down assistance, perhaps it's a case of having two many hands in the pot may only make things worse.[/quote]

It's not my kitchen, you're correct there. But if it was, I'd be pissed that the current cooks have had about six weeks with their hands in the pot and have done nothing but fail repeatedly. I don't see how some fresh sets of eyes can hurt.

Also, how on earth do Obama and Co justify not allowing more assistance in the form of beems/barriers and wildlife rescue? Can't have enough of that IMO. A cluster Fu*k indeed.

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some interesting info

[url=http://beforeitsnews.com/news/48/677/The_Big_Picture:_Why_Is_It_So_Hard_to_Stop_the_Oil_Gusher,_and_Why_Was_Such_Extreme_Deepwater_Drilling_Allowed_in_the_First_Place.html]The Big Picture: Why Is It So Hard to Stop the Oil Gusher, and Why Was Such Extreme Deepwater Drilling Allowed in the First Place? | Before It's News[/url]

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[quote=SolidSnake84;704640]Latest word from gulf shores is that there is more than a handful of "top people" suggesting to the government that a nuclear or other kind of explosive be used to fill the well, based on the fact that the russians successfully plugged runaway wells 70 years ago by using a nuclear weapon.....[/quote]

I know you are listening to your inside sources, but sometimes your reflective comments remind me of the JLC - Adam Schefter debate on AH. You may be hearing valid comments, but they seem to be tainted by the local negative frustrations much like JLC's AH reports tended to be slanted to the negative.

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[quote=Mattyk;704653]some interesting info

[url=http://beforeitsnews.com/news/48/677/The_Big_Picture:_Why_Is_It_So_Hard_to_Stop_the_Oil_Gusher,_and_Why_Was_Such_Extreme_Deepwater_Drilling_Allowed_in_the_First_Place.html]The Big Picture: Why Is It So Hard to Stop the Oil Gusher, and Why Was Such Extreme Deepwater Drilling Allowed in the First Place? | Before It's News[/url][/quote]

Great article Matty. Full of WHOA and Holy Cow moments, here is one that made me shake my head:

[quote]As NPR reported in 2007:

All the U.S. tanks, planes and ships guzzle 340,000 barrels of oil a day, making the American military the single-largest purchaser and consumer of oil in the world.

If the Defense Department were a country, it would rank about 38th in the world for oil consumption, right behind the Philippines.

As Reuters pointed out in 2008:

U.S. military fuel consumption dwarfs energy demand in many countries around the world, adding up to nearly double the fuel use in Ireland and 20 times more than that of Iceland, according to the U.S. Department of Energy.[/quote]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;704668]Great article Matty. Full of WHOA and Holy Cow moments, here is one that made me shake my head:[/quote]
[url=http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=58831]Defense.gov News Article: Department Hailed as Leader in ‘Green’ Movement[/url]

"In 2008 and 2009, the military had 120 requests to assist with natural disasters such as hurricanes and wild fires in the United States, as well as 54 requests to respond to overseas natural disasters last year, she said."

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[url=http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/03/gulf.oil.spill/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1]BP cuts leaking oil pipe; protests set to start - CNN.com[/url]

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Here's a live picture of my lunch view today from the balcony at our place in southwest Florida on the gulf. This spill is really personal for me. If oil ruins these beaches for years, all the little shops and restuarants around here that rely on tourism are finito. Not to mention all the fishhermen. Property values are going to plummet as well, and that's bad news for a state like Florida that has already been crushed by the housing crisis. I have to think it's inevitable at this point. Just like what's already happening in LA.

Makes me so sick, so sad, and so angry.

[IMG]http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/gmscud/ddd10397.jpg[/IMG]

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[B]Big Oil - Dick Cheny, Bush (all of them), Palin - Big Oil[/B]. Do not vote for Big Oil to take their government back. If you want BP to pay, do not vote Republican, I repeat do not, or they will not pay. [B]Rand Paul of the Tea Party [/B]says holding Big Oil responsible is [B]Un-American[/B]. By principle the Tea Party will let Big Oil off the hook. [B]BP must pay!!!! [/B]

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;704689][B]Big Oil - Dick Cheny, Bush (all of them), Palin - Big Oil[/B]. Do not vote for Big Oil to take their government back. If you want BP to pay, do not vote Republican, I repeat do not, or they will not pay. [B]Rand Paul of the Tea Party [/B]says holding Big Oil responsible is [B]Un-American[/B]. By principle the Tea Party will let Big Oil off the hook. [B]BP must pay!!!! [/B][/quote]

LOL. You're silly.

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[quote=GMScud;704685]Here's a live picture of my lunch view today from the balcony at our place in southwest Florida on the gulf. This spill is really personal for me. If oil ruins these beaches for years, all the little shops and restuarants around here that rely on tourism are finito. Not to mention all the fishhermen. Property values are going to plummet as well, and that's bad news for a state like Florida that has already been crushed by the housing crisis. I have to think it's inevitable at this point. Just like what's already happening in LA.

Makes me so sick, so sad, and so angry.

[IMG]http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/gmscud/ddd10397.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

I hear ya, my wife and I love to vacation in Florida in the Clearwater area. We were there a week before all this mess started. Those beaches are so beautiful. To think of the environment and wildlife there being ruined by this is so depressing.

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[quote=Mattyk;704705]I hear ya, my wife and I love to vacation in Florida in the Clearwater area. We were there a week before all this mess started. Those beaches are so beautiful. To think of the environment and wildlife there being ruined by this is so depressing.[/quote]

Priceless!!!! Worth more than all the oil in under the Gulf, well what's left of it anyway.

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This is the scariest model I've seen yet. Florida could easily be totally engulfed on both coasts. Without their beaches and fisheries, Florida is done. Not to mention what's already happening to Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana. Looks like NC and SC are going to be affected as well.

This thing is going to alter the entire Gulf and a large portion of the eastern seaboard for many years. I really could cry.

[url=http://www2.ucar.edu/news/ocean-currents-likely-to-carry-oil-spill-along-atlantic-coast]Ocean currents likely to carry oil along Atlantic coast | UCAR[/url]

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;704708]Priceless!!!! Worth more than all the oil in under the Gulf, well what's left of it anyway.[/quote]

:confused:

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[quote=GMScud;704774]This is the scariest model I've seen yet. Florida could easily be totally engulfed on both coasts. Without their beaches and fisheries, Florida is done. Not to mention what's already happening to Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana. Looks like NC and SC are going to be affected as well.

This thing is going to alter the entire Gulf and a large portion of the eastern seaboard for many years. I really could cry.

[url=http://www2.ucar.edu/news/ocean-currents-likely-to-carry-oil-spill-along-atlantic-coast]Ocean currents likely to carry oil along Atlantic coast | UCAR[/url][/quote]

Someone tried this scare tactic earlier, but scientists from Florida University and even people from the Coast Guard have disputed this. The NOAA doesnt see the spill taking this path. For one thing, the current does not move that quickly, and secondly, judging by current maps of the so called "loop current", the current begins to pull eastward after it gets around Miami, and this would pull oil towards europe, not towards the northeastern US. Too many people have already disputed this map. Nothing more than media scare mongering.

For this to even be a possibility, the flow would have to go uncontained for at least 3 more months.....but.....but this is BP we are talking about.....oh shit

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