Re: Taylor Effing Heinicke
 

MT is just bad, why even waste your time or any asset on that guy.

Re: Taylor Effing Heinicke
 

Sad fact is Trubisky or Mariota is probably the best we can do outside of the draft. Someone like Matt Ryan... why would he want to close out his career in this shit hole?

Re: Taylor Effing Heinicke
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1298527]Per CBS SPORTS

The Buffalo Bills and the Washington Football team have been in talks on a possible trade for QB Mitchell Trubisky, per source.

Thoughts?[/quote]

When you got 4 qbs….you don’t

Re: Taylor Effing Heinicke
 

I'd be fine with trading for M Trubisky for the right price, and if he agreed to a longer term deal. I think he's much better than anyone currently on the roster. The knock on him coming out was mostly about inexperience. After four years in the league as a starter, and one backing up one of the best QBs in the league, it would be worth taking a shot - for me.

Re: Taylor Effing Heinicke
 

[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1298546]I'd be fine with trading for M Trubisky for the right price, and if he agreed to a longer term deal. I think he's much better than anyone currently on the roster. The knock on him coming out was mostly about inexperience. After four years in the league as a starter, and one backing up one of the best QBs in the league, it would be worth taking a shot - for me.[/quote]

I agree. Worth a shot. I think he would be an upgrade over anything we have on the roster

Re: Taylor Effing Heinicke
 

[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1298546]I'd be fine with trading for M Trubisky for the right price, and if he agreed to a longer term deal. I think he's much better than anyone currently on the roster. The knock on him coming out was mostly about inexperience. After four years in the league as a starter, and one backing up one of the best QBs in the league, it would be worth taking a shot - for me.[/quote]

Im torn on the most effective approach to finding a franchise QB.

Do you kick the tires on as many former 1st round bust candidates as possible hoping to find your own serviceable Tannenhill?

Do you draft a QB within the first 3 rounds every year until you get your mid 1st to late 3rd round Rodgers, Wilson, Prescott etc?

Do you target a top 5 overall talent like Burrow and trade the house to get them?

Ideally you just tank and get the first overall pick in a draft with a Burrow in it.

Re: Taylor Effing Heinicke
 

I don't mind trading for Trubisky, as long as it has zero effect on drafting a QB in 2022.

Re: Taylor Effing Heinicke
 

[quote=SunnySide;1298552]Im torn on the most effective approach to finding a franchise QB.

Do you kick the tires on as many former 1st round bust candidates as possible hoping to find your own serviceable Tannenhill?

Do you draft a QB within the first 3 rounds every year until you get your mid 1st to late 3rd round Rodgers, Wilson, Prescott etc?

Do you target a top 5 overall talent like Burrow and trade the house to get them?

Ideally you just tank and get the first overall pick in a draft with a Burrow in it.[/quote]

I don't think you are limited to one of those options. You could trade for a guy like Trubisky and still target a QB (and you should) top 5 or somewhere else in the draft.

Re: Taylor Effing Heinicke
 

Doesn't look like a deal is going to get down unless it happens asap.

Re: Taylor Effing Heinicke
 

I wouldn't trade for any QB's right now. We are not going anywhere so play it out w/ what you have. Why would Ron trade for a QB now halfway through the season when you are 2-6 soon to be 2-7? He has no idea what he is doing.

When the season is over you need to move on from either Allen or TH. Do not bring back both. Whomever you bring back they're 3rd string. Then you release Fitz cause he is just too old. Then you sign a Tribisky Mariota type since perhaps they will be free to sign w/ anyone. I do not know their contract status. Then you obviously draft a QB in the first round, hopefully Pickett or Corral. Then you sign a guy in the later rounds as a project. So yes I would go into the offseason w/ 4 guys. 2 competing to be the starter, the 1st round rookie and the vet. I would have the later round rookie and Allen or TH compete as the 3rd.

The position has been ignored and poorly managed for too long. That includes Ron and his staff. I have always said you keep 3 and you draft one almost every year. It ain't that hard. You never know when you end up drafting a mid rounder like Cousins, Dak or Mark Rypien. Even a Jay Schroeder cause he was traded for Jim Lachey. Remember Stan Humphries? He ended up being a SB QB for the Chargers but I don't remember what we got for him. Trent Green? He should have been our starter for a long time and I'm not sure he was even drafted.

Re: Taylor Effing Heinicke
 

Great post 69, Agree with The draft.. I Don't give a shit if you have the 3rd pick and all the experts say no QB... You take QB!

Re: Taylor Effing Heinicke
 

[quote=MTK;1298374]I'm done with this experiment. Time to pull the plug.

[URL="https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/football-team/ron-rivera-leaves-door-open-quarterback-change-during-bye-week"]Ron Rivera leaves door open for potential quarterback change[/URL][/quote]

[url]https://riggosrag.com/2021/11/02/washington-football-team-stats-prove-kyle-allen-start-quarterback/[/url]

Re: Taylor Effing Heinicke
 

[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1298555]I don't think you are limited to one of those options. You could trade for a guy like Trubisky and still target a QB (and you should) top 5 or somewhere else in the draft.[/quote]

+1

I don't care where the qb is picked - as long as Ron & co are convinced he's the best guy for us.

Trading for Mitch just gives us another short term option while we look for the long term one. Ofc this is all a moot point since now we can't trade for Mitch until the offseason. That's the reality though - we are gonna be looking at other team retreads until we find our next long-term plan in the draft.

Re: Taylor Effing Heinicke
 

I believe he signed 1 year deal with Bills, so we can go after him in the free agency when it starts if we want him. At this point, we need to try everything we can do to find our QB like someone just explained earlier - free agency, drafts, and undrafted QB.

Re: Taylor Effing Heinicke
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1298575]I wouldn't trade for any QB's right now. We are not going anywhere so play it out w/ what you have. Why would Ron trade for a QB now halfway through the season when you are 2-6 soon to be 2-7? He has no idea what he is doing.

When the season is over you need to move on from either Allen or TH. Do not bring back both. Whomever you bring back they're 3rd string. Then you release Fitz cause he is just too old. Then you sign a Tribisky Mariota type since perhaps they will be free to sign w/ anyone. I do not know their contract status. Then you obviously draft a QB in the first round, hopefully Pickett or Corral. Then you sign a guy in the later rounds as a project. So yes I would go into the offseason w/ 4 guys. 2 competing to be the starter, the 1st round rookie and the vet. I would have the later round rookie and Allen or TH compete as the 3rd.

The position has been ignored and poorly managed for too long. That includes Ron and his staff. I have always said you keep 3 and you draft one almost every year. It ain't that hard. You never know when you end up drafting a mid rounder like Cousins, Dak or Mark Rypien. Even a Jay Schroeder cause he was traded for Jim Lachey. Remember Stan Humphries? He ended up being a SB QB for the Chargers but I don't remember what we got for him. Trent Green? He should have been our starter for a long time and I'm not sure he was even drafted.[/quote]

Great post. Keep chopping at the QB tree every year until an apple falls out.