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We can matty in the pre season

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[quote=Mattyk;794099]Trading up would be too costly. I think the FO is done with trading away high picks, for now at least.[/quote]

i like the fact they're keeping their true intentions under wraps, unlike events of the past.....i'm enjoying the suspense!!

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[quote=skinsfaninok;794133]We can matty in the pre season[/quote]

??? Matty's a verb now?

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[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utc4lTRtkxU&feature=related]YouTube - Arkansas Hamilton 85yd. touchdown vs. LSU[/url]

Great touch on this pass

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How would we feel about getting Phil Taylor, should I don't know, if we get a later first round pick somewhere from 18 on or using our second rounder on him?

I say this because he's said to be the best NT in the draft, but he supposedly has bone growth issues in his feet.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;794153]How would we feel about getting Phil Taylor, should I don't know, if we get a later first round pick somewhere from 18 on or using our second rounder on him?

I say this because he's said to be the best NT in the draft, but he supposedly has bone growth issues in his feet.[/quote]


I'd love a NT and QB or QB and OLB in the first 2 rounds

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[quote=skinsfaninok;794154]I'd love a NT and QB or QB and OLB in the first 2 rounds[/quote]

Quinn and Dalton? Locker and Paea? Ponder and Houston?

All possibilities, which combo would you prefer?

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[quote=SmootSmack;794156]Quinn and Dalton? Locker and Paea? Ponder and Houston?

All possibilities, which combo would you prefer?[/quote]


Quinn and Locker no doubt but I'd take Mallett and Paea also :)

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[quote=SmootSmack;794156]Quinn and Dalton? Locker and Paea? Ponder and Houston?

All possibilities, which combo would you prefer?[/quote]

Locker and Paea sounds good to me. I really hope we draft Locker. He has really intrigued me for some reason...

Though I'm not sure Paea is projected to be a nose tackle in the NFL.

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Wonder is NE will actually take a QB this yr? I still think Brady has 3-4 great years left though.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;794153]How would we feel about getting Phil Taylor, should I don't know, if we get a later first round pick somewhere from 18 on or using our second rounder on him?

I say this because he's said to be the best NT in the draft, but he supposedly has bone growth issues in his feet.[/quote]

I haven't really watched him play but the foot issues scare me, especially in the first round

a lot of people are saying he's closer to 3rd round talent but the NT field isn't very deep

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I'm starting to think that we really are going to draft a QB in the first round. I'd like to toss out a couple of thoughts I have about that.

First of all, if the Skins are going to draft a QB in the first round, then there is no legitimate reason for them to trade down to try to gain more draft picks while hoping that their guy will be there later. That's because they are selecting the man who will be starting at the most important position on the field and they cannot risk not getting him. I do not buy the idea that the Skins may rate two or more QB's equally which, in their minds, might mitigate the risk of trading down. When picking the player they want to lead their team in the future, they must know which player they think would be the best fit. Also, I don't think that Skins management has the luxury of making a mistake. So, if they expect their player to be drafted higher than #10, then trading up makes a lot more sense than trading down. To me, that is simple logic.

Secondly, when picking a Franchise QB, I think the Skins need to see something in him that is exceptional above and beyond the expected QB skill set. To my way of thinking, that eliminates all but four of the QB prospects in this draft. The remaining QB's are Newton, Gabbert, Locker, and Mallet. Some people might add Colin K. to this list because of his tremendous athleticism but I think he is lacking in the standard QB skill set.

Cam Newton is a great athlete. To have his athletic gifts at his size is truly exceptional. He has a strong arm. Accuracy is an issue.

Jake Locker is also an exceptional athlete. I think he throws extremely well on the run. He needs to work on his skills in the pocket and his mechanics.

Blaine Gabbert has the arm and the ability to consistently make all of the throws he'll need to make with excellent accuracy and touch. He is a very good athlete with the ability to escape the pass rush and make plays. He has prototypical size for an NFL QB.

Ryan Mallett has an amazingly strong arm and he is an accurate passer. Unfortunately, he is also a statue. He'll need to depend on a quick release and a decent OL.

I like some of the other QB prospects but I just don't see anything exceptional about them that would put them in the same category as the ones I listed.

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Good post KI

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I agRee K I and I too think We will draft at QB at 10, especially because I think Quinn will go top 7 so our pass rusher will be gone. I'm really starting to like Ryan Mallett lately, dude has a tremendous arm and is pretty accurate.

Haha PFT just reported the skins may be interested in Mallett. Obviously not something to take seriously, but definitely ironic. Shanny smoke machine running well...

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If Quinn isn't there at 10 (I think it's really about 50/50 right now), hopefully we can trade down a few spots and still get a top QB and another pick.

Without free agency we're probably looking at Rex being our starting guy going into the season and maybe Locker backing him up? Maybe not ideal, but not terrible either I suppose. All depends on how good Locker can be

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[quote=takethecake;794213]Haha PFT just reported the skins may be interested in Mallett. Obviously not something to take seriously, but definitely ironic. Shanny smoke machine running well...

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Woah seriously?!....maybe we need to start some fresh new threads because people seem to be posting lots of old stories.

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A little behind the scenes interview with Jon Gruden and his QB Camp producer

[url=http://frontrow.espn.go.com/2011/04/inside-jon-grudens-qb-camp/#more-2950]Inside Gruden’s ‘QB Camp’ « ESPN Front Row[/url]

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Yeah we could definitely use more new threads. These jumbo all in one threads get out of control and are hard to keep up with.

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[quote=SmootSmack;794215]If Quinn isn't there at 10 (I think it's really about 50/50 right now), hopefully we can trade down a few spots and still get a top QB and another pick.

Without free agency we're probably looking at Rex being our starting guy going into the season and maybe Locker backing him up? Maybe not ideal, but not terrible either I suppose. All depends on how good Locker can be[/quote]

If we really want a particular QB and our preferred QB is there at 10, I think we've got to take him at that spot because there is too much risk that he won't get past Minnesota, Miami, and Jacksonville.

Either we take our guy at 10 or we accept the possibility that we won't get our QB of the future in this draft and trade down with the idea of getting more picks to improve other positions.

Either of these plans would work for me.

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If SS is right about our OLine FA prospects the I wouldn't mind drafting Mallett at all in this draft.. He's shown when he has time how good of a QB he can be

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[quote=skinsfaninok;794253]If SS is right about our OLine FA prospects the I wouldn't mind drafting Mallett at all in this draft.. He's shown when he has time how good of a QB he can be[/quote]

Well I mean we're definitely targeting Joseph and Harris and I wouldn't be surprised to see them both on the roster once FA gets resolved, but I don't think even those additions make us the type of OL that merits bringing in someone like Mallet.

Really if not Locker or Ponder, I'd rather just wait until the middle to late rounds and maybe get someone like Stanzi or McElroy (neither of which are franchise guys in my opinion)

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He's got a quicker release than people think, I'd take a chance on him

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[quote=SmootSmack;794156]Quinn and Dalton? [B]Locker and Paea[/B]? Ponder and Houston?

All possibilities, which combo would you prefer?[/quote]

This one by a landslide!!! Locker, I would bet my career on. Paea seems like a Ratliff-type NT or Ngata-type RE (only smaller). Love this...fingers crossed!

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[quote=skinsfaninok;794253]If SS is right about our OLine FA prospects the I wouldn't mind drafting [B][U]Mallett [/U][/B]at all in this draft.. He's shown when he has time how good of a QB he can be[/quote]

Mallet?! You've been living in the Southwest too long. Mallet will be squatting in an abandoned building within three years. Ryan Leaf will be his roommate.

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[quote=SmootSmack;794254]Well I mean we're definitely targeting Joseph and Harris and I wouldn't be surprised to see them both on the roster once FA gets resolved, but I don't think even those additions make us the type of OL that merits bringing in someone like Mallet.[/quote]


From my understanding, I think the main reason we ended up with Brown (instead of Harris) is because we didn't have a pick that Denver wanted. Now that Denver has made it clear that Harris isn't in their future plans, he's most likely going to end here.

If it does end up that way, it means we spent a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round picks on 2 one year rentals. /facepalm

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;794270]Mallet?! You've been living in the Southwest too long. Mallet will be squatting in an abandoned building within three years. Ryan Leaf will be his roommate.[/quote]

Well technically I'm in the Southeast lol , I just think with a solid line he'd be a really good qb

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;794270]Mallet?! You've been living in the Southwest too long. Mallet will be squatting in an abandoned building within three years. Ryan Leaf will be his roommate.[/quote]

Ryan Mallett is an extremely talented qb. I would love for us to draft him.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;794289]Well technically I'm in the Southeast lol , I just think with a solid line he'd be a really good qb[/quote]
People I see making those type of boneheaded statements are usually the ones who didn't watch college football. Ryan Mallett huge arm and extremely accurate with the football. If we put a decent offensive line around him I think he can and will be really good.

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[quote=Landry44;794308]People I see making those type of boneheaded statements are usually the ones who didn't watch college football. Ryan Mallett huge arm and extremely accurate with the football. [B]If we put a decent offensive line around him I think he can and will be really good.[/B][/quote]

The story of all the QBs we've had in the past couple of year.

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[quote=Landry44;794308]People I see making those type of boneheaded statements are usually the ones who didn't watch college football. Ryan Mallett huge arm and extremely accurate with the football. If we put a decent offensive line around him I think he can and will be really good.[/quote]

I was just pulling OK's chain a little, for fun. Mallett is pretty good. I said something nice about him in this thread.

I don't really think that Mallett will be homeless within three years. I think he'll be sitting in his rec room with JaMarcus Russell watching the NFL on television.

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[quote=SmootSmack;794254]Well I mean we're definitely targeting Joseph and Harris and I wouldn't be surprised to see them both on the roster once FA gets resolved, but I don't think even those additions make us the type of OL that merits bringing in someone like Mallet.

Really if not Locker or Ponder, I'd rather just wait until the middle to late rounds and maybe get someone like Stanzi or McElroy (neither of which are franchise guys in my opinion)[/quote]

Lol, Mallet needs the following line to protect him.

LT - Ryan Clady
LG - Jhari Evans
C - Nick Mangold
RG - Logan Mankins
RT - Jake Long
TE - Anthony Becht
RB - Clinton Portis

Maybe then he'll have time to throw.

But dude seriously that O-Line woud be BOSS!

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[quote=SmootSmack;794217]Woah seriously?!....maybe we need to start some fresh new threads because people seem to be posting lots of old stories.[/quote]

Oh, woops haha. You're right Matty, I can never stay up to date on these gargantuan threads...

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The consensus this pre-draft season is that the Washington Redskins are going to try and land a quarterback at some point during the draft next weekend. Whether that's at their current draft position (No. 10), higher or lower remains to be seen. The 'Skins have been rumored to be trying to move both directions in the first round, and a logical case can be made for either side of that debate. In the minds of many, athletic QBs like Jake Locker, Christian Ponder and Colin Kaepernick appear to make the most sense as the apple of Mike Shanahan's eye.

But during Monday night's edition of "Path to the Draft" on the NFL Network, analyst Michael Lombardi reported that the Redskins have serious interest in drafting Ryan Mallett (a decidedly non-fleet-footed QB), and would do so even with the No. 10 pick, according to a source. (H/T to Evan Silva of Pro Football Talk for the grab).

For his part, Lombardi foresees Mallett going somewhere in the Top 20, though Doug Farrar of Football Outsiders brings up a salient point in the wake of the report. "Re: Lombardi's take on Mallett -- he loves big-armed QBs and wanted to hire [Arkansas coach Bobby] Petrino for Raiders. Not saying to discount, but watch for bias."

Lombardi isn't the only person talking up Mallett as a first-rounder, though. ESPN.com's Elizabeth Merrill had a tough time finding anyone to say a bad thing about the QB in Arkansas -- meaning that the off-field character concerns might be a shade overblown. ESPN SEC blogger Chris Low thinks that eventually, Mallett will quell the doubters:

- Tim Kavanagh


Chris Low
Mallett's skills are top notch
"Ultimately, it's all going to play out on the field, and on the field, Mallett has showed that he's a first-round talent. Now we'll see if somebody in the NFL thinks so."

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[quote=takethecake;794327]Oh, woops haha. You're right Matty, I can never stay up to date on these gargantuan threads...[/quote]

Contrary to popular belief, Matty and I are not the same person

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;794316]I was just pulling OK's chain a little, for fun. Mallett is pretty good. I said something nice about him in this thread.

I don't really think that Mallett will be homeless within three years. I think he'll be sitting in his rec room with JaMarcus Russell watching the NFL on television.[/quote]

Ryan Mallet had 2 consecutive seasons at Arkansass where he pass for over 3500 yards and 30 tds. He played in the toughest division in college football. He has one of the best arms we have seen in a long time. He accurate with the football both and outside of the pocket. My only knock on this kid is that he has threw some costly intercepts, but for the most part he's a stud.

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I watched YQB tonight and man Cam Newton just comes off so damn cocky, kids got some really good apects but I just don't see how he can be a franchise QB

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[quote=skinsfaninok;794377]I watched YQB tonight and man Cam Newton just comes off so damn cocky, kids got some really good apects but I just don't see how he can be a franchise QB[/quote]

I agree with you completely. It bugs the crap out of me that he calls himself the by his name. 'Cam's gonna do this, Cam's gonna do that.' Jesus, its like watching the 'Jimmy' episode of Seinfeld...

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[quote=mbedner3420;794395]I agree with you completely. It bugs the crap out of me that he calls himself the by his name. 'Cam's gonna do this, Cam's gonna do that.' Jesus, its like watching the 'Jimmy' episode of Seinfeld...[/quote]

Yeah man he's cocky as shit for a guy who's only had 1 good season. Idk man I just think he's in it just for the $

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[quote=mbedner3420;794395]I agree with you completely. It bugs the crap out of me that he calls himself the by his name. 'Cam's gonna do this, Cam's gonna do that.' Jesus, its like watching the 'Jimmy' episode of Seinfeld...[/quote]

Maybe we should draft him. Last QB that did that won a Super Bowl for us.
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