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[quote=12thMan;834615]I like that Cofield has to peep over his shoulder a little bit. This is good.[/quote]

This is why you keep those damn draft picks. D-line has a bright future.

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And I think it's safe to say the staff made the right decision by keeping Truck over Anthony Bryant.

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Since my last post was negative, I'd like to add the positives from today:

Rex's performance was great, and most importantly throwing for two TDs in the red zone (which had been an issue with us before). I think Hightower did enough in the running game to open up the passing game. And when it counted, the o-line gave Rex time to throw. Davis was HUGE and I think that we should run two TE sets. Also Moss showed his typical reliability and both Armstrong and Gaffney made some huge catches.

The defense was great, the turnover and score was a huge shift in the game, and the pressure on Manning was what I expected given the state of the Giants o-line. Also, the 4th down stop was huge and they were able to stop the G-men's running game when it counted.

As far as special teams, it was disappointing to see Gano miss the FG. But ST did come up huge with the blocked field and I thought Rocca did a helluva job punting the ball.

I see a lot of good things going for this team, and I hope that as the season progresses they are able to do even better things. The Giants were not their typical self, but a we had an opportunity and took it for the W.

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[quote=NC_Skins;834521]The guy really is good(JPP), but a #4 pick LT should be squashing that though. He's getting abused out there, and it's not going to get any better. I imagine if he continues to struggle, we'll see a flop with the tackles.[/quote]

Yeah, TW should have handled him. Pierre Paul is a beast but the knock on him is that he is just raw talent. Going up against polished pass rushers like Tuck, Osi, and Ware will be much tougher so Silverback needs to nut up quick.

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[quote=NC_Skins;834614]By Ohm Youngmisuk


....there is your problem. This wasn't done by Graziano.[/quote]

Yeah, I saw that when I re-read the article. The first time I read it I was so incensed that every paragraph began with 'The Giants' that I had to post it here. Visceral reaction lol.

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[quote=skinsfan69;834601]He was simply a monster out there. He MUST be on the field more.[/quote]

Seriously...time to give him that extention and start the transition of TE1 Fred Davis, TE2 Cooley. We are rebuilding, Fred had a great camp and is moving into his prime. Note Im not calling for Cooley to be traded, cut or whatever.

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[quote=Chico23231;834625]Seriously...time to give him that extention and start the transition of TE1 Fred Davis, TE2 Cooley. We are rebuilding, Fred had a great camp and is moving into his prime. Note Im not calling for Cooley to be traded, cut or whatever.[/quote]

Also, I can't see why we can't have both of them out there playing. I mean look at the Pats, they use their two TEs very well and both produced for the team last year. I'm just glad to see we have another weapon for Rexy.

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Grazianos take

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post?id=30416]Redskins impressive in beating Giants - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url]

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Just curious, it shows that Gano missed a FG. how long was the attempt and what happened? is he reverting back to his old self again after winning the job?

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[quote=Darrell_Green_28;834634]Just curious, it shows that Gano missed a FG. how long was the attempt and what happened? is he reverting back to his old self again after winning the job?[/quote]

39 yard attempt wide right. He just missed it. Good snap, good hold

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Graham Gano is a choke artist -- I understand that he only had the one attempt but at this point, I think you may as well give the offense a chance to go for it if it is in the 25-35 yard range because the odds of converting are about as good as Gano making it.

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One of the greatest live events I've ever been a part of... glad to get the W with a great 2nd half.

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[quote=Chico23231;834625]Seriously...time to give him that extention and start the transition of TE1 Fred Davis, TE2 Cooley. We are rebuilding, Fred had a great camp and is moving into his prime. Note Im not calling for Cooley to be traded, cut or whatever.[/quote]

This.


Cooley looked slow as hell out there. Hell, it looked like the defender was running 3/4 speed on his coverage.

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I don't know about the rest of you but I haven't felt this good about the redskins in a long time. Maybe since the last full season with norv turner as coach and brad Johnson at qb.

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I'll reserve my bitching and moaning when the redskins lose but for at least this week, I'm going to be enjoying this win against the giants.

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[quote=NC_Skins;834670]This.


Cooley looked slow as hell out there. Hell, it looked like the defender was running 3/4 speed on his coverage.[/quote]

I was surprised to see him out there. There's no way he's anywhere near 100%. He's just gutting it out.

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[quote=warriorzpath;834672]I don't know about the rest of you but I haven't felt this good about the redskins in a long time. Maybe since the last full season with norv turner as coach and brad Johnson at qb.[/quote]

Im feeling great about our Skins! It was nice to see them moving at NFL speed. We have lots to be optimistic about this season.

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Final Thoughts (and I going to Bed!)

[B]Good[/B]-

[B]Hightower[/B]: Since being traded he's come focused and ready to be a featured back. Even with shity line play, he runs hard, which is all you can ask of a RB

[B]Grossman[/B]: I'll be willing to bet none of us thought he'd break 300 yds and have 2 tds 2 weeks ago. Even with being pressured like hell, he mostly stood in the pocket, took a hit a got up. Don't think Beck would've had the accuracy to through the fade to AA, slant to Gaffney, and some passes to Moss and Davis

[B]Kick Off and Punt Coverages[/B]: It's great to have a punter who can finally put the ball inside the 20 80% of the time. I don't think we let their PR get more than 10 yards on a return, and Gano's strong leg on Kickoffs are an asset.

[B]Atogwe[/B]: He's not Sean Taylor, but he's the best FS we've had in 4 years since his passing. Didn't get beat, filled his gaps, and made the right reads. Hopefully Arizona will be the last week of Doughty.

[B]Bad[/B]-

[B]Reed Doughty[/B]: What he lacks in coverage, he makes up with tackling and run support. Yes he gets beat, but he's a smart football player, whose just not athletic to be a full time starter. When LL comes back, how Doughty plays won't matter

[B]O-Line[/B]: Touched on it in other threads. This unit HAS TO and MUST improve if we want to even THINK about a playoff run. You just can't get pushed back on stretch plays, run plays and sweeps. Our Pass Pro SUCKS!!! (As of 9/11/11) Both OT's struggle against speedy edge rushers and get beat BAD on stunts and double moves. Always thought Chris Chester was a backup, NOT A STARTER. Montgomery wasn't bad and neither was Kory L.

[B]Ugly[/B]:

Good Jesus Man [B]T. Williams[/B]!!![B]THAT WAS HORRIBLE!!![/B] Extremely Pathetic. If you're drafted #4, as an OT, you just have to play better than that. If my daughter, whose 3, watching the game says, "Daddy that's bad" when watching you bite [B]SO HARD[/B] on a double move from Pierre-Paul, and not even get a hand up; it's down right bad. [B]No Excuse[/B]

With all that said, [B]WE WON[/B] against our Rival. And that's all that matters!

HTTR!!

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Trent Williams still played better than Jammal Brown. I felt like everytime I watched Grossman get pressured or sacked, it was from the right side of the line, particularly Jammal Browns man.

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Hightower mentioned in an interview that the team was given monday off for the win and the team didn't want it, that's frickin awesome. there's something different about this years team attitude wise.

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I can't believe im saying this....Shanahan must of did something to Rex Grossman over the offseason cause he's looking good....Sexy Rexy was doing work and I can't believe im saying this but here's a stat

Donnovan McNabb 39 Yards

Rex Grossman 305 Yards

Oh and you wanna hear the kicker in all this...The Media is still focused on Vick...His performance in the air was horrible today. I'm not saying Playoffs or anything for our skins but Rex seems to want it more...agreed?

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What happened to that Johnny5 guy that was like Grossmans #1 ass wiper? lol

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I don't think that our LT is working out. That needs to be addressed, and pronto.

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[quote=NC_Skins;834670]This.


Cooley looked slow as hell out there. Hell, it looked like the defender was running 3/4 speed on his coverage.[/quote]

probably cause he's hurt and he shouldn't have been out there.

OL looked awful, WR drops were a bit eh, but everyone seemed to work around each other's faults and made it happen.

on track for 48 sacks... not good.

also, this wasn't the NYG's real defense, they're all on IR, so I'm still curious to see us pass on the jets or iggles.

our secondary gave up some big plays, but the front sevens looks great ;) reserve NT wants a sack? how about two?

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[quote=pg86;834799]I can't believe im saying this....Shanahan must of did something to Rex Grossman over the offseason cause he's looking good....Sexy Rexy was doing work and I can't believe im saying this but here's a stat

Donnovan McNabb 39 Yards

Rex Grossman 305 Yards

Oh and you wanna hear the kicker in all this...The Media is still focused on Vick...His performance in the air was horrible today. I'm not saying Playoffs or anything for our skins but Rex seems to want it more...agreed?[/quote]

I'm not certain about this, but it seems that they were using more max-protection plays late in the game. This worked pretty well. Even when our OL was taking a shellacking, Grossman looked very collected in the pocket. As far as the drops - without reviewing them, I would say that was a result of hurried passes from the poor protection.

[B]Giants did not look bad in coverage. [/B]They seemed to always be around the ball. Rex did a hell of a job under SERIOUS pressure.

Donnovan, who?

One underrated item was hightowers blitz pickup. Seemed like he stepped up a couple times there.

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[quote=12thMan;834425]Donovan McNabb in the #Vikings loss to SD: 7/15 for 39yds. 1td/1int[/quote]

I saw that stat line last night and thought they pulled him for Ponder or he got hurt.

Nope...only 15 attempts!?!?!

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Rex looked really good and he was under preasure just about all day.

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His scramble before the TD pass was awesome.


His fumble...that's our Rex. We should just accept he'll have one of those ugly plays every game, so the key will be going enough to make up for it. The drive following that was beautiful.

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[quote=Monkeydad;835005]His scramble before the TD pass was awesome.


His fumble...that's our Rex. We should just accept he'll have one of those ugly plays every game, so the key will be going enough to make up for it. The drive following that was beautiful.[/quote]

Jets seem to be making the best of a similar situation with Mark Sanchez. Its like you said, the key is doing enough good to make up for the wtf moments. Rex went way passed my expectations and Im sure that of many others, He really settled in nice. I'm happy.