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We should try and work out a trade to Cleveland,that would be frickin awesome! Kirk and RG3 back together again,you know they miss each other:devil:

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snyder is the only constant this franchise has had since 1999.

it's encouraging to see jay become the first hc extended since, but i read that his extension is not guaranteed? is that accurate?

if we can somehow sign kirk to a long term deal, that will be another step in the right direction.

and seeing all these starters leave via free agency should net us some compensatory picks, right?

reaching for silver lining here.

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[quote=los panda;1167157]snyder is the only constant this franchise has had since 1999.

it's encouraging to see jay become the first hc extended since, but i read that his extension is not guaranteed? is that accurate?

if we can somehow sign kirk to a long term deal, that will be another step in the right direction.

and seeing all these starters leave via free agency should net us some compensatory picks, right?

reaching for silver lining here.[/quote]

Rudderless ship since Dan been owner...4 GMs in his time here, countless coaches, etc

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[quote=Irrefutable;1167149]with who ? I doubt he wants to be in dysfunctional DC..... weapons gone, no stability, no running game, no defense.... SF looks like a better option[/quote]

Kirk wants to be the highest paid QB and knows SF will give him that. If he had played like one, he would have the deal he wants.

You are foolish to think he'll have a better shot at winning in SF, who is in major rebuilding mode.

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Is it too early to start a #ThankYouKirk thread? Only Redskins QB ever to pass for back to back 4,000 yard seasons. Owns countless redskins QB records. First QB we've had in back to back winning seasons in 25 years.

#THANKYOUKIRK

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Personally, if I'm Kirk Cousins, I would not sign my tender up until the last week of training camp. It we be the ultimate FUCK YOU to Snyder and Allen while still collecting 24 million. He actually has up until week 6 to sign the tender and still accrue a season under his belt.

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Fuck Snyder. Fuck Allen. Fuck this god forsaken team. Im done.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1167163]Personally, if I'm Kirk Cousins, I would not sign my tender up until the last week of training camp. It we be the ultimate FUCK YOU to Snyder and Allen while still collecting 24 million.[/quote]

Oh poor Cousins, we gave him 20 million last year, and are willing to give him 24 million this year, have built the team around him, drafted offensive players in the first round the last two years, and...how is he being shafted by the team?

Please explain to me what horrible things have the team done to Cousins, other than not make him the highest paid QB in the league, which IMO he doesn't deserve.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1167165]Oh poor Cousins, we gave him 20 million last year, and are willing to give him 24 million this year, have built the team around him, drafted offensive players in the first round the last two years, and...how is he being shafted by the team?

Please explain to me what horrible things have the team done to Cousins, other than not make him the highest paid QB in the league, which IMO he doesn't deserve.[/quote]

Exactly. If KC goes to SF good luck to him it will be 3 years of rebuilding.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1167165]Oh poor Cousins, we gave him 20 million last year, and are willing to give him 24 million this year, have built the team around him, drafted offensive players in the first round the last two years, and...how is he being shafted by the team?

Please explain to me what horrible things have the team done to Cousins, other than not make him the highest paid QB in the league, which IMO he doesn't deserve.[/quote]

I have much love for Kirk Cousins, but I agree with you on this!

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[quote=los panda;1167157]snyder is the only constant this franchise has had since 1999.

it's encouraging to see jay become the first hc extended since, but i read that his extension is not guaranteed? is that accurate?

if we can somehow sign kirk to a long term deal, that will be another step in the right direction.

and seeing all these starters leave via free agency should net us some compensatory picks, right?

reaching for silver lining here.[/quote]

his extension is fully guaranteed . . . what you heard was florio being florio

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[quote=metalskins;1167167]I have much love for Kirk Cousins, but I agree with you on this![/quote]

I liked Cousins too, and understand that as a player he's going to want to get the most money out of a deal. That's the NFL business and I expected for him to be tagged and for negotiations to go all the way to the July deadline.

But I don't understand the strong desire to leave the team to a worst situation, or why people think the team has done something wrong to him. Over the past two years the team has done nothing but put resources towards the offense, including:

- Drafting Brandon Scherff
- Drafting Matt Jones (yeah this didn't work out, but still)
- Hiring Callahan to improve the offensive line
- Extending Jordan Reed
- Drafting Josh Doctson
- Giving Gruden a 2-year extension

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Only Dan Snyder goes from 2012 to this. Ok so Griff got hurt and did not pan out. It is ok though the football Gods threw us a bone with KC. So tragedy averted. We wind up with a world beater offense and seemingly just a few defensive pieces away from fielding a legit team. Sign the man. Draft defense and sign a couple key pieces thru free agency. Simple. Everywhere except here and Cleveland. What a shit show. And I agree 10000 % with Chico. Danny boy is the constant through this entire exercise in futility. He is not going anywhere either. I absolutely cannot stand myself for picking a Skins jacket off the coat rack at Bambergers department store when i was 5 years old. It was probably sandwiched right between a Patriots jacket and a Steelers jacket too. Smfh.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1167163]Personally, if I'm Kirk Cousins, I would not sign my tender up until the last week of training camp. It we be the ultimate FUCK YOU to Snyder and Allen while still collecting 24 million. He actually has up until week 6 to sign the tender and still accrue a season under his belt.[/quote]

If someone is willing to pay you 24 million dollars then there should be no disrespect. KC should run over to Redskin Park, sign that tender ASAP and thank the Redskins. That's a lot of god damn money for someone that's not an elite QB.

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[quote=punch it in;1167170]Only Dan Snyder goes from 2012 to this. Ok so Griff got hurt and did not pan out. It is ok though the football Gods threw us a bone with KC. So tragedy averted. We wind up with a world beater offense and seemingly just a few defensive pieces away from fielding a legit team. Sign the man. Draft defense and sign a couple key pieces thru free agency. Simple. Everywhere except here and Cleveland. What a shit show. And I agree 10000 % with Chico. Danny boy is the constant through this entire exercise in futility. He is not going anywhere either. [B]I absolutely cannot stand myself for picking a Skins jacket off the coat rack at Bambergers department store when i was 5 years old. It was probably sandwiched right between a Patriots jacket and a Steelers jacket too. Smfh[/B].[/quote]

Don't you know that Patriots jackets only have been sold in the past few years. ;)

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;1167172]Don't you know that Patriots jackets only have been sold in the past few years. ;)[/QUOTE]



It would have been a crappy childhood but at least I would have died happy. Lol

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[quote=punch it in;1167170]Only Dan Snyder goes from 2012 to this. Ok so Griff got hurt and did not pan out. It is ok though the football Gods threw us a bone with KC. So tragedy averted. We wind up with a world beater offense and seemingly just a few defensive pieces away from fielding a legit team. Sign the man. Draft defense and sign a couple key pieces thru free agency. Simple. Everywhere except here and Cleveland. What a shit show. And I agree 10000 % with Chico. Danny boy is the constant through this entire exercise in futility. He is not going anywhere either. I absolutely cannot stand myself for picking a Skins jacket off the coat rack at Bambergers department store when i was 5 years old. It was probably sandwiched right between a Patriots jacket and a Steelers jacket too. Smfh.[/quote]

I'm still waiting to hear what horrible things have the Redskins done to Kirk Cousins.

Also, Houston gave Osweiller a ton of money last semester, and they are now in the Tony Romo sweepstakes. Other NFL team have problems you know.

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1167168]his extension is fully guaranteed . . . what you heard was florio being florio[/quote]

floratio as they call him over there on pft. thanks for clearing that up, guru!

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1167164]Fuck Snyder. Fuck Allen. Fuck this god forsaken team. Im done.[/QUOTE]
Back to back winning seasons. I'm not done yet lol... But it's getting close man.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1167171]If someone is willing to pay you 24 million dollars then there should be no disrespect. KC should run over to Redskin Park, sign that tender ASAP and thank the Redskins. That's a lot of god damn money for someone that's not an elite QB.[/quote]

Especially after collecting 20M the year before.

It's been said a thousand times. The NFL is a business. Paying someone 44M over 2 years, and having them say eff you. Gotta think the person saying eff you bears some of the responsibility.

If I understand the antiDS sentiment, it's something like, your guy RG3 didn't work out, get over it.

But wouldn't that same statement work against KC too. DS didn't say he loves you after the cleveland game get over it.

KC is not going somewhere else and throwing for 5000 yds, I don't believe it. He had talent(DJax/PG), then a second layer of talent(Reed/Crowder), and then even a 3rd row deep in Maurice Harris/Vernon Davis. His line did good at protecting him. His coaches loved throwing so he could put numbers up.

I want him here, but in this case I'm not get mImdub's truck revved back up. I think the team made fair NFL business choices. Did they all say Oh KC we love you. No, but most contracts in the NFL aren't signed on a Valentines Wedding.

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1167165]Oh poor Cousins, we gave him 20 million last year, and are willing to give him 24 million this year, have built the team around him, drafted offensive players in the first round the last two years, and...how is he being shafted by the team?

Please explain to me what horrible things have the team done to Cousins, other than not make him the highest paid QB in the league, which IMO he doesn't deserve.[/QUOTE]
I agree, I'm a huge Kirk guy but fuck him. He's crying his way out of wash like a little bitch.

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1167174]I'm still waiting to hear what horrible things have the Redskins done to Kirk Cousins.



Also, Houston gave Osweiller a ton of money last semester, and they are now in the Tony Romo sweepstakes. Other NFL team have problems you know.[/QUOTE]



I did not say that Kirk was 100% without blame. But he has clearly not been here for 20 years.
My point is simply that after we lost to Green Bay in the playoffs we seemed to simply be a few defensive pieces away from fielding a legit contender. Somehow we are going backwards though. After 20 years or longer of no quarterback sign the fucking guy long term. Than fix the defense. And i don't really give a crap about other teams. But if u want to go there than there aren't many who have been as bad and as dysfunctional as we have for the better part of two decades. But if it makes u feel better that the browns and lions are terrible have at it. Lol

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[quote=Ruhskins;1167169]I liked Cousins too, and understand that as a player he's going to want to get the most money out of a deal. That's the NFL business and I expected for him to be tagged and for negotiations to go all the way to the July deadline.

But I don't understand the strong desire to leave the team to a worst situation, or why people think the team has done something wrong to him. Over the past two years the team has done nothing but put resources towards the offense, including:

- Drafting Brandon Scherff
- Drafting Matt Jones (yeah this didn't work out, but still)
- Hiring Callahan to improve the offensive line
- Extending Jordan Reed
- Drafting Josh Doctson
- Giving Gruden a 2-year extension[/quote]


Honestly, I can understand. He likes Kyle Shanahan and he's familiar with the system. He's going to have a familiar face at wide receiver. He probably feels he can come in and win, at least, 8 games. At the same time, he's trading one terrible ownership for another. The only difference is that York has tasted a Super Bowl appearance in recent years.

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[quote=punch it in;1167180]I did not say that Kirk was 100% without blame. But he has clearly not been here for 20 years.
My point is simply that after we lost to Green Bay in the playoffs we seemed to simply be a few defensive pieces away from fielding a legit contender. Somehow we are going backwards though. After 20 years or longer of no quarterback sign the fucking guy long term. Than fix the defense. And i don't really give a crap about other teams. But if u want to go there than there aren't many who have been as bad and as dysfunctional as we have for the better part of two decades. But if it makes u feel better that the browns and lions are terrible have at it. Lol[/quote]

How do you expect to fix the defense, if Cousins wants to be the highest paid QB in the league and tie up a lot of money. We can't all be the Patriots, who get an elite QB at a super discounted price.

I'm not saying lowball the guy, but I'm not giving him Russell Wilson/Andrew Luck money.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1167174]I'm still waiting to hear what horrible things have the Redskins done to Kirk Cousins.

Also, Houston gave Osweiller a ton of money last semester, and they are now in the Tony Romo sweepstakes. Other NFL team have problems you know.[/quote]

You obviously don't understand the situation. This is an absolute disgrace!!

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[quote=metalskins;1167186]Honestly, I can understand. He likes Kyle Shanahan and he's familiar with the system. He's going to have a familiar face at wide receiver. He probably feels he can come in and win, at least, 8 games. At the same time, he's trading one terrible ownership for another. The only difference is that York has tasted a Super Bowl appearance in recent years.[/quote]

That's understandable, but people need to stop acting like Kirk is being run out of town.

And Kirk needs to realize that the Redskins are not going to let him go without adequate compensation. If the Iggles got a first rounder for Bradford, then they (SF) need to be ready to give up their #2 overall IMO.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1167174]I'm still waiting to hear what horrible things have the Redskins done to Kirk Cousins.

Also, Houston gave Osweiller a ton of money last semester, and they are now in the Tony Romo sweepstakes. Other NFL team have problems you know.[/quote]

I think they insulted him with their long term deal after the 15 season. They offered him far less that Osweiler.

I'd also say he's had to see how the owner coddled Griffin. There are probably things that have gone on behind closed doors that we don't know about..

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If I'm Bruce, I'm calling other teams about Kirk, not just SF. See what's out there, can we go Sean mcvay up and ask QB for QB. I'd take Goff. Call Denver about simien since they are probably getting romo.

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1167187]How do you expect to fix the defense, if Cousins wants to be the highest paid QB in the league and tie up a lot of money. We can't all be the Patriots, who get an elite QB at a super discounted price.



I'm not saying lowball the guy, but I'm not giving him Russell Wilson/Andrew Luck money.[/QUOTE]



Cousins + a few upgrades on D > shitbag at quarterback + several upgrades on defense.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1167187][B]How do you expect to fix the defense, if Cousins wants to be the highest paid QB[/B] in the league and tie up a lot of money. We can't all be the Patriots, who get an elite QB at a super discounted price.

I'm not saying lowball the guy, but I'm not giving him Russell Wilson/Andrew Luck money.[/quote]

Draft 2-3 studs and coach up a few guys. We do have some guys that are already on the roster that need to step in and play better, Spaight and Fuller to name a few.

I'd add one or two free agents on the line. That's it.

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Remember when Kirk was always saying "I don't control where I'll play" and I was always saying he doesn't appear to want to be a redskin... Players will committ to a team no matter what, he never has and it's pretty obvious he always wanted out. Last year he took the tag and shut up because he had no leverage, now he does because of Kyle.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1167192]I think they insulted him with their long term deal after the 15 season. They offered him far less that Osweiler.

I'd also say he's had to see how the owner coddled Griffin. There are probably things that have gone on behind closed doors that we don't know about..[/quote]

Fair enough. I can see that happening.

Still I feel that team has done a lot to build around him.

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Is the shit bag a whiny bitch?

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1167196]Draft 2-3 studs and coach up a few guys. We do have some guys that are already on the roster that need to step in and play better, Spaight and Fuller to name a few.



I'd add one or two free agents on the line. That's it.[/QUOTE]



Yup. Not rocket science. Not like finding a quarterback!

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1167199]Is the shit bag a whiny bitch?[/QUOTE]



I dont give a fuck as long as he can play. We have had lots of shit bags who weren't whiners. How'd that turn out?
And I don't think he is a whiner just for the record.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1167198]Still I feel that team has done a lot to build around him.[/quote]

Agree. the one sided "I am a victim, the evil empire is holding me hostage" argument looks thin now as it did last year. How he is not publicly grateful to Gruden and the team I have no idea.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1167194]If I'm Bruce, I'm calling other teams about Kirk, not just SF. See what's out there, can we go Sean mcvay up and ask QB for QB. I'd take Goff. Call Denver about simien since they are probably getting romo.

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Snyder might be more willing to trade with Sean McVay than Kyle Shanahan. It would be up to the Rams brass of course, but I agree. I would be calling up everybody else who's in need of a quarterback and see what they would offer. I know Cousins has said that he's not interested in being traded anywhere else but San Fran, but I would think Washington would be in control of who they want to trade him to.

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[QUOTE=metalskins;1167215]Snyder might be more willing to trade with Sean McVay than Kyle Shanahan. It would be up to the Rams brass of course, but I agree. I would be calling up everybody else who's in need of a quarterback and see what they would offer. I know Cousins has said that he's not interested in being traded anywhere else but San Fran, but I would think Washington would be in control of who they want to trade him to.[/QUOTE]
Kirk can only control so much, he doesn't control where he is traded too

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[quote=metalskins;1167215]Snyder might be more willing to trade with Sean McVay than Kyle Shanahan. It would be up to the Rams brass of course, but I agree. I would be calling up everybody else who's in need of a quarterback and see what they would offer. I know Cousins has said that he's not interested in being traded anywhere else but San Fran, but I would think Washington would be in control of who they want to trade him to.[/quote]

The funny thing is that Cousins in LA would likely turn the team around right away, since they have a running game, some decent receivers and a very good defense.

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Osweiler to Cleveland. Lol.