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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1284534]Idaho Lt. Governor makes her own choice while the Governor is out of state.

While I agree with her stance, lol, way out of bounds.

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/idaho-repeals-ban-mask-mandates-lt-gov-abuse-of-power[/url][/quote]

It's a win-win for her. Either he lets it stand or she gets her name out in the press and probably wins support from the hardcore anti-mask conservatives, which will help her gubernatorial run next year. Won't be long before the governor is branded as a RINO.

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Indy race today 135k in the stands today. Suck it covid

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Whew not a good day for Fauci…looks like we need to get that commission going.

-mask will not protect
-he wasn’t muzzled but the Trump administration
-lab leak viable

The media taking another big L as well. Their credibility is at the lowest ever in the history of the country. Big shout out to buzzfeed tho dropping these bombs today.

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[quote=Chico23231;1284609]Whew not a good day for Fauci…looks like we need to get that commission going.

-mask will not protect
-he wasn’t muzzled but the Trump administration
-lab leak viable

The media taking another big L as well. Their credibility is at the lowest ever in the history of the country. Big shout out to buzzfeed tho dropping these bombs today.[/quote]

Only to people like you comrade chico.

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Let's rehash old news. Faucci's early message on not needing masks proved to be incorrect, he admitted so and changed his stance once more info became available.

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A question that the Tucker's and Ingram's of the world should have asked and didn't:

Why did Trump hire a swamp rat like Fauci? This guy has been around forever working with people in government. This guy has sucked of the government tit for a long time.

What a dumb fucking hire.

Save the Fauci worship. Or share it. He cares about himself 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. Actually maybe that's why Trump hired him, he can relate.

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So we are now saying trump knew about the origin of the virus and did nothing so we will attack the medical spokesman ,seems right for trump.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1284625]A question that the Tucker's and Ingram's of the world should have asked and didn't:

Why did Trump hire a swamp rat like Fauci? This guy has been around forever working with people in government. This guy has sucked of the government tit for a long time.

What a dumb fucking hire.

Save the Fauci worship. Or share it. He cares about himself 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. Actually maybe that's why Trump hired him, he can relate.[/quote]

I think his resume speaks for itself. He's served the country well going back to every President since Reagan. Is he infallible? Of course not. But saying he's been sucking off the government is just laughable.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1284625]A question that the Tucker's and Ingram's of the world should have asked and didn't:

Why did Trump hire a swamp rat like Fauci? This guy has been around forever working with people in government. This guy has sucked of the government tit for a long time.

What a dumb fucking hire.

Save the Fauci worship. Or share it. He cares about himself 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. Actually maybe that's why Trump hired him, he can relate.[/quote]

That's ridiculous.

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[quote=Giantone;1284647]That's ridiculous.[/quote]

What’s ridiculous is the fact Vanity Fair out scooped all major news organizations and published the most informative article about the origins of the covid today:

The Lab-Leak Theory: Inside the Fight to Uncover COVID-19’s Origins

[url]https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/the-lab-leak-theory-inside-the-fight-to-uncover-covid-19s-origins[/url]

Journalism is truly dead..While shithole, lying trash organizations pushed hoaxers like Michale Avenitti and Rebekah Jones who have been proven fraudsters without one ounce of truth…or false lies and zero facts based narratives like Russians paid bounties to kill us soldiers, pee tapes, etc and chose to suppress true stories like DOJ investigations into Hunter Biden and origins of the worst pandemic in a hundred years.

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[quote=Chico23231;1284648]What’s ridiculous is the fact Vanity Fair out scooped all major news organizations and published the most informative article about the origins of the covid today:

The Lab-Leak Theory: Inside the Fight to Uncover COVID-19’s Origins

[url]https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/the-lab-leak-theory-inside-the-fight-to-uncover-covid-19s-origins[/url]

Journalism is truly dead..While shithole, lying trash organizations pushed hoaxers like Michale Avenitti and Rebekah Jones who have been proven fraudsters without one ounce of truth…or false lies and zero facts based narratives like Russians paid bounties to kill us soldiers, pee tapes, etc and chose to suppress true stories like DOJ investigations into Hunter Biden and origins of the worst pandemic in a hundred years.[/quote]

..........and here comes the drunk uncle.:stop:

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Watching the Isles-Bruins game last night. Packed house and not a single mask.

I want to get back to normal and I now dont wear a mask in grocery stores etc ... but i dont know man.

The cast just came off .. not sure we should be running marathons just yet.

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[quote=SunnySide;1284785]Watching the Isles-Bruins game last night. Packed house and not a single mask.

I want to get back to normal and I now dont wear a mask in grocery stores etc ... but i dont know man.

The cast just came off .. not sure we should be running marathons just yet.[/quote]

It's all different from one town to the next from one store to the next. I went into my local grocery store here in town and everyone still was masked ,yet just the next town over (5miles) no one has a mask on. I want it back but I have no problem with the people that do wear them. Same can not be said for the people without a Mask , they seem annoyed ..pissed if you keep wearing one.

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I hope masks stick around and people have enough common sense to wear them during flu season. There's simply no reason why so many people have to die of the flu each year. Also hope this idea that you have to go to work no matter what ends. If you're sick, stay home. If you absolutely have to go in to work, mask up. I used to get so annoyed at some co-workers who insisted coming in when they were clearly ill and contagious.

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If I see folks still wearing mask out, I naturally assume u are not vaccinated at this point. Folks are still masking outside which is really something else…they def aren’t into science

I whistle now when I shop maskless

Gotta say not surprised people not following the science. Even private emails by Faucci explicitly stated retail mask are not effective against aerosol droplets of how covid spread.

But I blame the poor messaging by the federal government…trump & Biden.

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[quote=Chico23231;1284795]If I see folks still wearing mask out, I naturally assume u are not vaccinated at this point. Folks are still masking outside which is really something else…they def aren’t into science

I whistle now when I shop maskless

.[/quote]

Why would you assume that, seriously ignorant. People want to wear a mask to protect them selves from idiots they don't know if they are vaccinated who are whistling so they can protect themselves.

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[quote=MTK;1284794]I hope masks stick around and people have enough common sense to wear them during flu season. There's simply no reason why so many people have to die of the flu each year. Also hope this idea that you have to go to work no matter what ends. If you're sick, stay home. If you absolutely have to go in to work, mask up. I used to get so annoyed at some co-workers who insisted coming in when they were clearly ill and contagious.[/quote]

Yes and I still keep the sanitizer in the cars for when we are out.

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[quote=Giantone;1284804]Why would you assume that, seriously ignorant. People want to wear a mask to protect them selves from idiots they don't know if they are vaccinated who are whistling so they can protect themselves.[/quote]

Because of CDC guidelines. You don’t trust the guidelines? Did you trust them before when they said mask up? I’m not following

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[quote=Chico23231;1284808]Because of CDC guidelines. You don’t trust the guidelines? Did you trust them before when they said mask up? I’m not following[/quote]

LOL, of course you're not, it's common sense.

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[quote=Giantone;1284650]..........and here comes the drunk uncle.:stop:[/quote]
Maybe but that is an excellent article he posted. Long but really eye opening.

"....With President Trump out of office, it should be possible to reject his xenophobic agenda and still ask why, in all places in the world, did the outbreak begin in the city with a laboratory housing one of the world’s most extensive collection of bat viruses, doing some of the most aggressive research?...."

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[quote=MTK;1284794]I hope masks stick around and people have enough common sense to wear them during flu season. There's simply no reason why so many people have to die of the flu each year. Also hope this idea that you have to go to work no matter what ends. If you're sick, stay home. If you absolutely have to go in to work, mask up. I used to get so annoyed at some co-workers who insisted coming in when they were clearly ill and contagious.[/quote]

This is less political and more grind my gears but it fits here. I was grocery shopping yesterday. This lady in line in front of me is sniffing and hacking away while loading her groceries onto the belt. She is telling everyone in ear shot how she has been sick for days and can't seem to shake it. I was too polite I should have asked her a. why if you are sick are your not wearing a mask, especially at a time in history when it is socially acceptable and b. why not just use the online grocery service have them pick everything and curb side it?

I just felt it was very inconsiderate to the cashier and others.

On another note got a call from the school nurse today. My son was in close contact today with someone who tested positive for covid. He now has to stay home from school for ten days and will miss the last week of school. His favorite teacher is retiring he can't say goodbye to him. A shitty end of the school year to a shitty year.

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[quote=nonniey;1284816]Maybe but that is an excellent article he posted. Long but really eye opening.

"....With President Trump out of office, it should be possible to reject his xenophobic agenda and still ask why, in all places in the world, did the outbreak begin in the city with a laboratory housing one of the world’s most extensive collection of bat viruses, doing some of the most aggressive research?...."[/quote]


No one said it isn't possible ,anything is possible. Blaming Fuaci is the stupid part .

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1284824]This is less political and more grind my gears but it fits here. I was grocery shopping yesterday. This lady in line in front of me is sniffing and hacking away while loading her groceries onto the belt. She is telling everyone in ear shot how she has been sick for days and can't seem to shake it. I was too polite I should have asked her a. why if you are sick are your not wearing a mask, especially at a time in history when it is socially acceptable and b. why not just use the online grocery service have them pick everything and curb side it?

I just felt it was very inconsiderate to the cashier and others.

On another note got a call from the school nurse today. My son was in close contact today with someone who tested positive for covid. He now has to stay home from school for ten days and will miss the last week of school. His favorite teacher is retiring he can't say goodbye to him. A shitty end of the school year to a shitty year.[/quote]
Yet chico says kids can't get covid and there is no need for masks ? You have now experience two reasons to keep following protocols.

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[quote=Giantone;1284836]Yet chico says kids can't get covid and there is no need for masks ? You have now experience two reasons to keep following protocols.[/quote]

No Chico has seen the evidence which has existed from last year which states schools were not sources of community spread and there was even less evidence of child to teacher transmission.

Also, the seasonal flu is more deadly to kids ages 3-17 than covid.

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The problem is we have done such a shitty job of contract tracing at public schools in the US the data is really bad. The largest contract tracing study in the world shows schools are an important factor in community spread.

Regardless kids should be in school and it is easy enough to ensure their safety if we follow protocols. My biggest gripe is we have these societal norms that work is more important than personal or community health in this country. I now have to isolate my 10 year old for ten days because some parent decided to send their sick kid to school despite showing symptoms of being sick. This is a part of our culture that needs to change.

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Its a tough call for parents. Im sending my kid to in-person come Fall but I was kinda hoping a Vax would be given to kids younger than 16 or so.

Shes going to in-person camp for a few weeks this summer so .... hoping for the best.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1284844]The problem is we have done such a shitty job of contract tracing at public schools in the US the data is really bad. The largest contract tracing study in the world shows schools are an important factor in community spread.

Regardless kids should be in school and it is easy enough to ensure their safety if we follow protocols. My biggest gripe is we have these societal norms that work is more important than personal or community health in this country. I now have to isolate my 10 year old for ten days because some parent decided to send their sick kid to school despite showing symptoms of being sick. This is a part of our culture that needs to change.[/quote]

Yeah, I don’t know what study you referred too but the large majority of data finds schools are safe and children transmission is extremely low.

The schools explicated stated they would follow the science, they said vaccination, they said more money…every single thing they have said, they have lied to the public from day 1.

put another coin in the “trump was right jar” when it came to school policy and covid

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[quote=Chico23231;1284903]Yeah, I don’t know what study you referred too but the large majority of data finds schools are safe and children transmission is extremely low.

The schools explicated stated they would follow the science, they said vaccination, they said more money…every single thing they have said, they have lied to the public from day 1.

put another coin in the “trump was right jar” when it came to school policy and covid[/quote]

I will see if I can find it. It was done in India by Princeton researchers but the conclusions I got from the study aren't necessarily related to child spread but that schools as the community hub are responsible i.e. food banks, community use of washers and dryers etc. All stuff we have to contend with in public schools, but I agree with you if we follow the science schools should be open.

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[quote=Chico23231;1284903]Yeah, I don’t know what study you referred too but the large majority of data finds schools are safe and children transmission is extremely low.

The schools explicated stated they would follow the science, they said vaccination, they said more money…every single thing they have said, they have lied to the public from day 1.

put another coin in the “trump was right jar” when it came to school policy and covid[/quote]

LOL, another trumpette lie. Schools will and are open . Due more to the vaccines and less to the stupid ingrate that think trump solved the pandemic .

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[quote=SunnySide;1284846]Its a tough call for parents. Im sending my kid to in-person come Fall but I was kinda hoping a Vax would be given to kids younger than 16 or so.

Shes going to in-person camp for a few weeks this summer so .... hoping for the best.[/quote]

Pretty sure young as 5 will be able by September.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1284844]The problem is we have done such a shitty job of contract tracing at public schools in the US the data is really bad. The largest contract tracing study in the world shows schools are an important factor in community spread.

Regardless kids should be in school and it is easy enough to ensure their safety if we follow protocols. My biggest gripe is we have these societal norms that work is more important than personal or community health in this country. I now have to isolate my 10 year old for ten days because some parent decided to send their sick kid to school despite showing symptoms of being sick. This is a part of our culture that needs to change.[/quote]

Yup for many different reasons not that the kids are getting sick (and they do) but they can all so carry it back to the home and spread in that manor.

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[URL="https://variety.com/2021/music/news/anti-vaccine-protesters-foo-fighters-1234997958/"]Anti-Vaccine Protesters Picket Outside Foo Fighters’ First Full Capacity Show Since Pandemic[/URL]

Don't really get this anti vax thing at all... this Ricky Schroder dude, holy F what a moron

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Coronavirus case numbers are rising sharply in the Sunshine State once again as the Delta variant spreads. The Florida Department of Health reported more than 23,000 new coronavirus cases last week — an 8,000-case increase over the previous week.

Medical leaders are continuing to stress higher vaccination rates are the key to stopping the spread of COVID-19 and the Delta variant. With cases of the Delta variant, first reported in India, are rapidly spreading in Florida and across the country, many doctors are worried.

The Delta variant is far more contagious than previous strains of COVID-19, doctors say, and makes people much sicker, posing a far more serious health threat. The warning against this rising variant is coming as hospitalization rates in Florida are rising.

The rate of positive cases of coronavirus is jumping too in the Sunshine State, from 4% in recent weeks up to 7.8% last week.

Health officials across the U.S. worry further spread of the Delta variant could lead to mini-surges of cases in regions with low vaccination rates, saying this may not be the only time this happens unless we reach herd immunity.

”This is going to keep happening. It may peak here, and then it's going to spread to other places. If we don't get enough vaccinating, there's going to be another variant that's probably worse. That's the way viruses work," said Dr. Howard Jarvis, medical director at CoxHealth.

Florida’s Department of Health reported around 11 million Floridians 12 years old and up have gotten at least one dose of vaccine, that is 58% of the eligible population.

Nationwide just 48% of the total U.S. population is fully vaccinated. Medical leaders say when it comes to beating COVID-19 and the Delta variant, the sooner people roll up the sleeves, the better.

[url]https://www.mynews13.com/fl/orlando/news/2021/07/11/new-coronavirus-cases--delta-variant-continue-to-rise-in-florida[/url]

Just 48% vaxxed? I assume that includes people under 18 the vax has not been made available to yet. 74% of the US pop is 18 or older.

More and worse variants on the way if we dont hit herd immunity? Fucking awesome really awesome. Way to go America!

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Conservative speaker at some republican convention: 'Government was hoping they could sucker 90% of the population into getting the vaccine .. and it isnt happening"

Conservatives in attendance: cheering

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Didnt their lord and savior Donald Trump create this vaccine? Werent they demanding all praise be to he for the vax and roll out?

honestly at this point .... im torn between wishing the delta, theta, sigma and every other variant of Covid just fucks all of Florida right in their collective assholes, leaving puss dripping anal lesions while some fat fuck 40 year old on disability MAGA makes a go fund me for his "i cant breathe" maw maw

or just like, wishing the dumb the best and carrying on with my vax life.

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[quote=SunnySide;1285798] .... im torn between wishing the delta, theta, sigma and every other variant of Covid just fucks all of Florida right in their collective assholes, leaving puss dripping anal lesions while some fat fuck 40 year old on disability MAGA makes a go fund me for his "i cant breathe" maw maw

or just like, wishing the dumb the best and carrying on with my vax life.[/quote]

Lol why I love ya.

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[quote=Chico23231;1285800]Lol why I love ya.[/quote]

I love you because you kept trying to give Trump the credit for the vaccine #'s improving after Biden took office, while conveniently forgetting a large chunk of his supporters are also anti-vaccine conspiracy theory dipshits.

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We're such a hopelessly dumb fuck country. People around the world would give their left nut for a shot and here we are cheering the fact that some won't take it. FFS. These people do realize that Trump himself is vaccinated right?

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[url]https://apnews.com/article/health-new-york-coronavirus-pandemic-nyc-state-wire-1d0de9f568433dd2e560c30544a2df60[/url]

Lol…this headline:

New York takes conservative approach counting virus deaths

“It’s a little strange,” said Bob Anderson, chief of the Mortality Statistics Branch at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s National Center for Health Statistics. “They’re providing us with the death certificate information so they have it. I don’t know why they wouldn’t use those numbers.”

Such a discrepancy can fuel distrust in government tallies of COVID-19 deaths, while making it harder for individuals to know why others in their community died in the pandemic, experts say.


So what retards accused Florida of…(with zero evidence)…New York been doing the whole time. I’m sure most here will go ahead and ignore it

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Definitely a politicized crisis. The absolute stupidity from both sides on this issue is sickening. The Trumpster's position of absolute resistance to the vaccine will prolong the crises (many of them still deny the crisis exists at all) and kill a lot of them. The left's denial of the science of how and who the the virus threatens made the crisis deadlier than it needed to be (pre vaccine), economically worse than it needed to be, and harmed the young. Clowns to the left of me and jokers to the right was never so apt.

So here are the facts
- The vaccines are effective - most of those -Check that - almost all of those dying are unvaccinated.
- Some will die from the vaccine itself as happens with every vaccine ever developed -
- Legal protections for the developers was absolutely necessary.
- The virus in not a serious threat to most - check that - almost all kids (When it comes to those under 20, the flu really is far more dangerous).
- Only a small minority of kids catch the virus (almost all asymptomatic).
- Schools should never have been closed as the virus effect on kids was known before they shut down.
- Florida got their response right.
- New York got their response wrong.
- Masks work to limit the spread by limiting the spread of the virus from those that are infected.
- Masks generally won't protect you from catching the virus.
- Stores have property rights if they won't serve/bar someone who won't wear a mask that is legal and perfectly reasonable.

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[QUOTE=nonniey;1285856]Definitely a politicized crisis. The absolute stupidity from both sides on this issue is sickening. The Trumpster's position of absolute resistance to the vaccine will prolong the crises (many of them still deny the crisis exists at all) and kill a lot of them. The left's denial of the science of how and who the the virus threatens made the crisis deadlier than it needed to be (pre vaccine), economically worse than it needed to be, and harmed the young. Clowns to the left of me and jokers to the right was never so apt.

So here are the facts
- The vaccines are effective - most of those -Check that - almost all of those dying are unvaccinated.
- Some will die from the vaccine itself as happens with every vaccine ever developed -
- Legal protections for the developers was absolutely necessary.
- The virus in not a serious threat to most - check that - almost all kids (When it comes to those under 20, the flu really is far more dangerous).
- Only a small minority of kids catch the virus (almost all asymptomatic).
- Schools should never have been closed as the virus effect on kids was known before they shut down.
- Florida got their response right.
- New York got their response wrong.
- Masks work to limit the spread by limiting the spread of the virus from those that are infected.
- Masks generally won't protect you from catching the virus.
- Stores have property rights if they won't serve/bar someone who won't wear a mask that is legal and perfectly reasonable.[/QUOTE]


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