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djnemo65 10-12-2006 03:36 AM

Re: Stop The Negative
 
[QUOTE=Beemnseven;227384]And I hate how people use last year like it's going to buy us success this year.

"Look what we did [I]last year[/I]!"

"[I]Last year [/I]we did this!"

"[I]Last year [/I]we did that!"

"Well, what about [I]last year[/I]?"

Last year gets you JACK.[/QUOTE]

I compare last year to one of those games where you are losing 17-3 and you are thinking, they could still come back, and then they do. Amazing! The point is that you can't count on doing that every week, because normally you lose those games. Last year was an incredible run, but I'm really not comfortable being in that position for the second year in a row. Remember, we were one less kickoff return in arizona away from making that run, plus the eagles imploded in the second half of the final game, saving our necks. This was supposed to be the year that we didn't stress about making the playoffs, and instead focused on taking the next step. Right now I'd take 10-6 and a wildcard spot in a heartbeat.

vaoutlaws2006 10-12-2006 05:54 AM

Re: Stop The Negative
 
stop holding your breath on campbell....thats not going to happen unless brunell gets hurt. campbell is better than mcnabb...thats a laugh right there. campbell hasnt proved sh*t. switching qbs isnt the answer. the answer is learn how to play defense.

freddyg12 10-12-2006 08:21 AM

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[quote=Beemnseven;227408]Well, the pass rush is about the same -- nonexistant, even with the addition of Andre Carter. Right now, I'd take Ryan Clark and Walt Harris over Archuleta and Kenny Wright. There's two more differences. Griffin, Salave'a and Springs are all a year older, with injuries becoming more commonplace.

Marcus Washinton has been far from a disruptive playmaker, Holdman and Marshall are just sorta ... there.

So, no. It's not the same defense. This one hasn't stopped anybody but the Texans.[/quote]

think back to last year when the D struggled & gave up big plays to Oakland, Tampa, SD, & KC. During the middle of the season they gave up a lot. Not as much as this year, but just hope we have a similar improvement.

Dogtag 10-12-2006 08:34 AM

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[quote=hesscl34;227358]I know 2-3 isn't great.. and I know we have issues to overcome... but we DO have the talent and we do have smart coaches. All we need is fans that believe and trust... I do!!! Trust in the Skins. Give them the 12th man this weekend. It's time to ROCK and make this season REAL!!!!!!!!![/quote]

Good post. I'm with you on this one.

firstdown 10-12-2006 10:07 AM

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[quote=RedskinRat;227364]The Eagles are 4-1 with less talent than we have.

I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to just blindly accept it.[/quote]
I would not say that they have less talent maybe we have more play makers. They do have two strong lnes which may be the difference right now. Remember who they have played. The next couple of weeks will tell where they are.

MTK 10-12-2006 10:15 AM

Re: Stop The Negative
 
[quote=Beemnseven;227384]And I hate how people use last year like it's going to buy us success this year.

"Look what we did [I]last year[/I]!"

"[I]Last year [/I]we did this!"

"[I]Last year [/I]we did that!"

"Well, what about [I]last year[/I]?"

Last year gets you JACK.[/quote]

Of course last year doesn't buy us anything for this year, but the point is that last year is the perfect example of just when you think you've hit rock bottom, things can turn around for the better.

The point is to not give up hope, it's a long season and stranger things have happened.

It can also serve as a rallying point for the team. They can look back on last year and know that it can be done.

VTSkins897 10-12-2006 10:18 AM

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the question is...

what would steve perry do?

hesscl34 10-12-2006 10:25 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;227490]Of course last year doesn't buy us anything for this year, but the point is that last year is the perfect example of just when you think you've hit rock bottom, things can turn around for the better.

The point is to not give up hope, it's a long season and stranger things have happened.

It can also serve as a rallying point for the team. They can look back on last year and know that it can be done.[/quote]

You tell'em Matty!!

Chief X_Phackter 10-12-2006 10:34 AM

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[quote=RedskinRat;227364]The Eagles are 4-1 with less talent than we have.

I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to just blindly accept it.[/quote]

Yeah, but they've been running the same offensive and defensive systems for years now with mostly the same core group of personnel except for a few add-ins.

It will take some time for us to gel like that. Hopefully we won't follow the same track record and change systems again anytime soon.

Southpaw 10-12-2006 10:36 AM

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[quote=mike340;227421]These dipshits will never eat crow. Their job is to hijack every thread into a tirade against Brunell (in addition to hijacking "positive" threads and turning them "negative"). When Brunell sets a record they say it meant nothing. When he has a good game they (mostly) shut up. I only saw one that said he did a good job that day. They can't even shut up on a thread that says "Stop the Negative". You would think that there would be some thread title where the guys who are the "downers" would exclude themselves. Unfortunately, they don't seem to get it. When I look at the Warpath page, 25 threads come up. How many can I read that the d*ldoheads haven't taken over? If he had 500 yds/game for the rest of the year, there would be 1 of 2 options: (1) They won all the games. In this case they would complement other people and not make mention of Brunell. (2) They lose some games. When this happens they would say it was all YAC so his numbers don't mean anything. [B]And one of them has a name that makes me convinced that Patrick Ramsey is on this board.[/B]

So if Brunell were able to get 500 yds/game, I would bet that no more than 5 members would admit their mistake. And in the meantime, I'm willing to bet they'll hijack all the threads that they can.[/quote]

That's funny, because a post like this makes me think Mark Brunell is on the board. Chill out Mark. You can only break 250 yards three times a season. Hell, even 400 yards is a fairy tale for you. But don't worry buddy. Even though your production has become as erratic as your old pal Patrick Ramsey, the majority of this forum will still support you because Coach Gibbs loves you.:laughing2

BDBohnzie 10-12-2006 10:58 AM

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[QUOTE=VTSkins897;227493]what would steve perry do?[/QUOTE]
He would reunite Journey and lead us to the promised land.

At this moment, McNabb is the best QB in the league, much less weaker than Campbell. The Eagles may not have the playmakers, but they are the best team in the NFC East.

The Skins need their D to pick it up. Springs being sidelined has hurt the most, but I think once he comes back, you'll see a spring the the D's step.

Whether it's Brunell, Collins, or Campbell, the offense lives and dies by the run. We need to establish the run and set up the play fakes, and the fly routes. It'll all come together. 4-3 or 3-4 into the bye week can set up for a glorious 2nd half.

mike340 10-12-2006 11:43 AM

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Please don't be silly, and don't just focus on one aspect of my post. I'm tired of looking forward to posts by Dallas supporters knowing that they'll be more positive than those posted by (many) Redskin fans.

To the best of my recollection, only one person criticizing Brunell earlier admitted he played well later. And I think you were it. So take pride in your accomplishment, but don't give others credit they don't deserve.

On a prior post, you pointed to an article that said Brunell was the worst comeback QB since 1996. (I don't have the location at this time.) Two things stood out:
(1) By their criterion, Ramsey is one of the worst, and his record when they could come back in the 4th quarter was 0-11. Brunell is only worse because he has played many more games.
(2) QBs get NO credit for maintaining a lead. I disagree with this. I agree if the QB is on a team that can get rushing first downs when the other team knows they will rush. But when some passes are necessary this should also be credited to the QB. One of Brunell's strengths is that he doesn't throw many picks. So to ignore this in his case is significant.

And the person I'm referring to is "chief chucking my rat"... oops "spear". Oops, make those all CAPITAL LETTERS.

[QUOTE=Southpaw;227503]That's funny, because a post like this makes me think Mark Brunell is on the board. Chill out Mark. You can only break 250 yards three times a season. Hell, even 400 yards is a fairy tale for you. But don't worry buddy. Even though your production has become as erratic as your old pal Patrick Ramsey, the majority of this forum will still support you because Coach Gibbs loves you.:laughing2[/QUOTE]

EternalEnigma21 10-12-2006 11:45 AM

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[quote=hesscl34;227358] All we need is fans that believe and trust... [/quote]



Oh... and one thing I forgot....




Dust.


"Dust????"


Just a little bit of Fairy Dust.

Longtimefan 10-12-2006 11:48 AM

Re: Stop The Negative
 
[QUOTE=hesscl34;227358]I know 2-3 isn't great.. and I know we have issues to overcome... but we DO have the talent and we do have smart coaches. All we need is fans that believe and trust... I do!!! Trust in the Skins. Give them the 12th man this weekend. It's time to ROCK and make this season REAL!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]



There are many of us faithful who are going to hang right in there with you (including me) but there is a bottom line that is not going away. We basically have four games left to our season that will determine any hope of a playoff berth following this season. The two games left with Philly, one each with the Giants and Cowboys will pretty much determine our fate. Regardless of what we do in those other games on the schedule, those are the only one's that really matter.

Southpaw 10-12-2006 11:52 AM

Re: Stop The Negative
 
[quote=mike340;227523]Please don't be silly, and don't just focus on one aspect of my post. I'm tired of looking forward to posts by Dallas supporters knowing that they'll be more positive than those posted by (many) Redskin fans.

To the best of my recollection, only one person criticizing Brunell earlier admitted he played well later. And I think you were it. So take pride in your accomplishment, but don't give others credit they don't deserve.
[/quote]

I have no problem with the fact that your opinion differs from mine. You just made some nasty comments directed towards the Brunell haters, which I thought deserved a response. I made a silly response to lighten the mood a little bit, so things didn't get out of hand.


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