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[QUOTE=sportscurmudgeon;381325]Let's try to look at this the way Mr. Spock would look at it - - logically.

Gibbs leaves only one of three ways: 1. Danny Boy fires him. 2. He steps down. 3. He dies or is kidnapped by aliens or gets caught up in some kind of monstrous government plot such that even Jack Bauer can't save him.

Let's rule out #3, OK?

Will Danny Boy fire Joe Gibbs? I put the probability of that at about .01% or one chance in ten-thousand. Snyder knows that Gibbs makes money for the Redskins and has a large loyal following amongst Skins' fans. Snyder is most unlikely to drop the hammer on him now. Despite the fan-boy rhetoric around here that all Danny Boy wants is to win, I think he's just really happy to be making a ton of money with the franchise at the moment. If they win big, that's gravy to him - - because then he'll make even more money.

Will Gibbs step down? Let me answer that question with a question. Why should he? He stands to make over $5M next year to be a CEO and watch a horde of other people coach the football team. What he has to do to put that $5M - plus in the bank is to hold two news conferences a week and wear a headset on the sidelines for about three and a half hours 16 times next year. If you had a job like that for $5M, would you "step down"?

As Mr. Spock would say, "That's illogical..."[/QUOTE]

If this is Gibbs' mentality I would have absolutely no respect for him whatsoever. There are two requirements to deserve the title of HC: you love football more than yourself and you want to fucking WIN! I think Gibbs passes the first bit of criterion but hasn't quite decided on the second; therefor, I basically disagree w/ you analysis - i'm kirk to your spock.

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[quote=MTRedskinsFan;381425]If this is Gibbs' mentality I would have absolutely no respect for him whatsoever. There are two requirements to deserve the title of HC: you love football more than yourself and you want to fucking WIN! I think Gibbs passes the first bit of criterion but hasn't quite decided on the second; therefor, I basically disagree w/ you analysis - i'm kirk to your spock.[/quote]

You don't think Gibbs has decided whether or not he wants to win. Unbelievable. You're not Kirk, your the bit player that gets zapped in the first five minutes.

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[QUOTE=70Chip;381426]You don't think Gibbs has decided whether or not he wants to win. Unbelievable. You're not Kirk, your the bit player that gets zapped in the first five minutes.[/QUOTE]

What the hell is the bit player? Are we back to Star Trek or still on football?

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I remember the evening I heard Gibbs was coming back. I still think of it as the 2nd coming. Gibbs has brought stability, work ethic, hope and a different breed of Redskins back to Ashburn. We have players that care, work hard and fight til there's no more fighting. I know that Gibbs will be back and I believe that he will produce before he leaves us for dead once again.... God Bless!

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I want to see at least ONE more year with things just as they are... Gibbs is opening the Offense up moe every week.... With Campbell having another year under his belt.... hopefully next year ALOT less injuries ...and we could be unstoppable..... And Yes I love KOOL-AID ...the pre-sweetened stuff...extra sugar

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After this season I would be very surprised if Gibbs stays on as HC. As far as fanbase, network coverage, and let's not forget about winning, he is a huge LIABILITY to this organization. Nobody wants to see a HOF coach stand clueless on the sidelines week to week as his reputation sinks lower and lower.

But this is not a matter of Snyder firing Gibbs, he will "retire" the day after the season ends, we just won't know whether it was his decision. Honest to God, my high school football coach had us better prepared/organized week to week. I keep asking the question to those who live in the DC area: does anyone check to see whether Gibbs is actually there w/ the offense throughout the week? For that matter, can anyone attest to the offense practicing every week?

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I have to say I would be REALLY surprised if Gibbs retired. I think he will finish out his contract. After his contract is honored I think he is going to go.

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while i'm not the biggest (current gibbs supporter), he can't leave. We are too close...he's drafted well, and he's putting together a team that will be VERY good, next season..one more great draft (and we have all our picks).

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[QUOTE=BrunellMVP?;382737]while i'm not the biggest (current gibbs supporter), he can't leave. We are too close...he's drafted well, and he's putting together a team that will be VERY good, next season..one more great draft (and we have all our picks).[/QUOTE]

But it really doesn't matter does it? Suppose he had won four Super Bowls in five years here. All people will say is why didn't he win it that fifth year. There is absolutely nothing he can do to satisfy the fans. That much seems obvious by now. He could for just about any other fan base, but not ours.

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[quote=SmootSmack;382987]But it really doesn't matter does it? Suppose he had won four Super Bowls in five years here. All people will say is why didn't he win it that fifth year. There is absolutely nothing he can do to satisfy the fans. That much seems obvious by now. He could for just about any other fan base, but not ours.[/quote]


whaaaat?! not true at all. I think the problem here is that those superbowls were a while ago, not even within the last decade. we had fallen into a rut with al these different coaches and quarterbacks and this and that and then all of a sudden Snyder brings in ol Joe. The hype was beyond belief, everyone in the DC area thought we were going back to our winning days.... well its been years later and we look like shit, still. We are still struggling just like we had right after he left. I am very greatful that this team has the history on its side, if not our fan base and this city might not even have a football team. The Redskins are the only team in DC that fans are really passionate about imo. But call it how you see it, and i dont see it getting any better. Gibbs will finish out his tenure here in style and next year i think we should be playoff contenders. I dont give Joe a break because of his history, and neither should anyone else. Now is now, thats what i think our fans need to understand.

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[QUOTE=chrisl4064;382990]whaaaat?! not true at all. I think the problem here is that those superbowls were a while ago, not even within the last decade. we had fallen into a rut with al these different coaches and quarterbacks and this and that and then all of a sudden Snyder brings in ol Joe. The hype was beyond belief, everyone in the DC area thought we were going back to our winning days.... well its been years later and we look like shit, still. We are still struggling just like we had right after he left. I am very greatful that this team has the history on its side, if not our fan base and this city might not even have a football team. The Redskins are the only team in DC that fans are really passionate about imo. But call it how you see it, and i dont see it getting any better. Gibbs will finish out his tenure here in style and next year i think we should be playoff contenders. I dont give Joe a break because of his history, and neither should anyone else. Now is now, thats what i think our fans need to understand.[/QUOTE]

Look like shit is an exaggeration in my opinion. But that's besides the point. What sort of threads do you think we would have seen today had we won today "Wow Reche is the man" "Campbell Has Arrived" "Gregg Williams is a Genius" etc.

There wouldn't have been any "Great Call by Gibbs" "Halftime Speech by Gibbs Fired Up Players" etc. I could be wrong, but I rarely if ever see any praise (for lack of a better word) for Gibbs after we win. I want him to stay and I think he will, but at the same time I want him to look out for himself. He deserves to be happy however he can, he owes us nothing more than what he has already given us in my opinion.

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Anyone who doesn't understand why so many of us follow Gibbs with such devotion needs to rent DVDs of Gibbs' first tenure in D.C. Without Gibbs, the Washington Redskins have ZERO Lombardi trophies. Without Gibbs, the Washington Redskins don't have "the glory years" to talk about. Without Gibbs, there is no "we want Dallas" chant at RFK. Without Gibbs, we are not a storied franchise.

If you don't feel the same you are likely still in high school and are too young to remember the Gibbs I era and/or you are a cold-hearted "what have you done for me lately" prick. Sorry, I'm not singling anyone out. I'm just expressing how I feel.

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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;381304]I definitely think Gibbs will continue coaching until the end of his contract.

And then.. We'll need a new coach because Gibbs will be pushing 70 and come on, his heart can't take all the stress! I bet Saunders will be the next coach. I wonder how well that'd work.[/QUOTE]

I wonder if Jason Garrett will still be around after next year. He's got to be at the top of the list of potential head coach candidates next year. Cowher may want to come back by then. Love to have a GM.

Re: Gibbs leaving? Not a chance
 

MTRedskinsFan:

You say that Joe Gibbs passes your first criterion for being a head coach because he loves football more than himself.

1. How do you know that?

2. If that's true, how come he left football for NASCAR for about a decade?


My point was that there is no real motivation for him to "step down" and leave approximately $5M on the table. He has the job set up for him in such a way that it is hardly the most difficult one in the area - and the money ain't bad.

Oh, and he still has time to "oversee" his NASCAR enterprise too.