Re: Peter King on Zorn Hire
 

Fassel was fired in BAL in 2006 when they were 4-2? Either way, Fassel and Zorn (and Blache) would've been a great combo.

Re: Peter King on Zorn Hire
 

[QUOTE=DieHardSkin;420634]Hasn't everyone (Media, Fans, Etc.) been saying for years that [B]DS should hire a coach who is young[/B], and has come up thru the nfl ranks, and does not necessarily have a big name. This is not a big splash name, but a calculated smart decision, and we still bash…..The guy will never get a break, and I don’t think he really cares.[/QUOTE]

I thought I'd point out, since everyone seems to be saying this, that Zorn is 54, 55 in May. I'm not saying he's old, but that's not a "young head coach."

Young would be Mangini at 35, or even Gruden at 44. Zorn falls pretty much right in the middle as far as age goes.

Re: Peter King on Zorn Hire
 

[QUOTE=sbaughone;420615]Peter King is a queen...he hates the Redskins and kicks us at every chance he gets. Lemme ask Peter one question: If fossil is so good, why isn't he writing about how Atlanta passed him by? Why didn't Parcells hire him? Maybe it's because snyder saw what everyone else did: Fossil ain't that impressive.

Here's a funny video on peter king the queen: [url=http://www.OntheRAC.com]On the RAC: Redskins Appreciation Club, the Humurous Redskins' Fan Site.[/url][/QUOTE]

With regard to his general position on the Redskins, I don't know that I'd say that PK is a Len Pasquarelli, but I guess he is indeed within the ranks of Redskin-hating football writers. The funny thing is that whenever I think of PK in the context of the 'Skins, the first thing that always comes to mind is his prediction that Wuerfful was going to have a career year as the QB in Spurrier's offense.

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/peter_king/news/2002/08/26/mmqb/]CNNSI.com - SI Online - Peter King - Monday Morning QB - Peter King's Monday Morning Quarterback: Feeling Minnesota - Monday September 02, 2002 09:42 AM[/url]

Re: Peter King on Zorn Hire
 

The only reason I wasn't excited about having Fassel is because he looks funny. He was certainly most qualified. But Gibbs said it best. Snyder needs to be comfortable with his coach.

Re: Peter King on Zorn Hire
 

[quote=DieHardSkin;420634]Hasn't everyone (Media, Fans, Etc.) been saying for years that DS should hire a coach who is young, and has come up thru the nfl ranks, and does not necessarily have a big name. This is not a big splash name, but a calculated smart decision, and we still bash…..The guy will never get a break, and I don’t think he really cares.[/quote]

Zorn isn't very young is he?

Re: Peter King on Zorn Hire
 

I think this decision was largely driven by Cerrato. I don't think the backlash by the fans did Fassel in. If Snyder wanted to please the fans, he would have made GW the coach.

There's a scene in Oliver Stone's "Nixon" where James Woods, playing Bob Haldeman, says to John Erlichman, played by J.D. Walsh, "You know we're next, don't you?" Nixon had just fired his close friend John Mitchell. Well, Vinny is next. If this season goes in the crapper, Vinny has to get wacked. So the wheel of progress moves forward, however slowly.

Re: Peter King on Zorn Hire
 

The skins are easy to "bash." We've been mediocre, we spend LOTS of money-more money than the 30 others teams, and DS brings alot of heat by his antics. We are going to have to start winning to keep the dogs away.

We hire a guy that 28 days into the interview process is not even a candidate for HC, so look at it from a objective viewpoint, it is kind of odd. I'm pulling for Zorn for do great things, i'm also concerned that he might not be around for too long if DS gets himself a BIG name coach.

Re: Peter King on Zorn Hire
 

[quote=70Chip;420669]I think this decision was largely driven by Cerrato. I don't think the backlash by the fans did Fassel in. If Snyder wanted to please the fans, he would have made GW the coach.

There's a scene in Oliver Stone's "Nixon" where James Woods, playing Bob Haldeman, says to John Erlichman, played by J.D. Walsh, "You know we're next, don't you?" Nixon had just fired his close friend John Mitchell. Well, Vinny is next. If this season goes in the crapper, Vinny has to get wacked. So the wheel of progress moves forward, however slowly.[/quote]

I think you make a good point about the fans and GW. If he wanted to acquiesce maybe he would have just hired Gregg. I also think you're probably right about the Zorn hire being a highly influenced by Vinny. As to the last part of the post, we will see, but I just can't see it happening (Vinny getting whacked that is). Hopefully it doesn't come to that since it will mean bad results on the field.

Re: Peter King on Zorn Hire
 

[QUOTE=BringBackJoeT;420661]With regard to his general position on the Redskins, I don't know that I'd say that PK is a Len Pasquarelli, but I guess he is indeed within the ranks of Redskin-hating football writers. The funny thing is that whenever I think of PK in the context of the 'Skins, the first thing that always comes to mind is his prediction that Wuerfful was going to have a career year as the QB in Spurrier's offense.

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/peter_king/news/2002/08/26/mmqb/]CNNSI.com - SI Online - Peter King - Monday Morning QB - Peter King's Monday Morning Quarterback: Feeling Minnesota - Monday September 02, 2002 09:42 AM[/url][/QUOTE]

It [U]was[/U] a career year for DW. That was the highest passer rating and yards passing in a single season he had his entire career :)

Re: Peter King on Zorn Hire
 

[QUOTE=70Chip;420669]I think this decision was largely driven by Cerrato. I don't think the backlash by the fans did Fassel in. If Snyder wanted to please the fans, he would have made GW the coach.

There's a scene in Oliver Stone's "Nixon" where James Woods, playing Bob Haldeman, says to John Erlichman, played by J.D. Walsh, "You know we're next, don't you?" Nixon had just fired his close friend John Mitchell. Well, Vinny is next. If this season goes in the crapper, Vinny has to get wacked. So the wheel of progress moves forward, however slowly.[/QUOTE]

You are pretty much dead on.

Maybe a year or two off on VC though.

Re: Peter King on Zorn Hire
 

Not to sidetrack things but when has Peter King EVER said that Snyder has made good decisions? As a mtter of fact, I have come to the conclusion that writers think that team owners should never have anything to do with managing the football team. Owners are a bunch of football illiterates that are incapable of making any decision related to football. I'd like to find one example of a writer speaking well about an owner that is involved with the team. Writers tell us that the only good owners are the ones that stand back and watch from afar.

Is it at all possible that an owner, who is involved with football 24-7 for more than 5 years, might have learned enough about the game to be a valuable decision maker in football related processes? I'm not saying "is" I'm saying "could be"!

Re: Peter King on Zorn Hire
 

Off topic, but I was just thinking about the NFLN show "Top 10 Scrambling QB's". Zorn was on the list, 9 or 10 I think, but I think there was like some goofy milk commercial from the late '70s with him and Steve Largent. It had some kind of jingle like "Milk, it makes your bones grow strong" or something like that. Couldn't find it on YouTube. Am I crazy or does someone remember that/have a link?

Re: Peter King on Zorn Hire
 

Found it. If you search "top 10 Jim Zorn" on NFL.com video search it will come up. It has a clip of the commercial at the beginning.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801f9767]NFL Video Galleries[/url]

Re: Peter King on Zorn Hire
 

[quote=SmootSmack;420679]You are pretty much dead on.

Maybe a year or two off on VC though.[/quote]

If he let's Vinny hang around calling the shots while the team struggles badly for 3 years, he'll find out what a negative fan reaction looks like. I hope Vinny turns out to be a genius. But, I suspect he's not and would like to see the day when Snyder finally breaks down, gives in and turns over the decision making process to a real life, NFL football person. And I would like to see it in my lifetime or at least my son's lifetime. Getting rid of Vincenzo is an important step in that process. In that sense, I'm glad it's his ass on the line now.

Re: Peter King on Zorn Hire
 

[QUOTE=70Chip;420694]If he let's Vinny hang around calling the shots while the team struggles badly for 3 years, he'll find out what a negative fan reaction looks like. I hope Vinny turns out to be a genius. But, I suspect he's not and would like to see the day when Snyder finally breaks down, gives in and turns over the decision making process to a real life, NFL football person. And I would like to see it in my lifetime or at least my son's lifetime. Getting rid of Vincenzo is an important step in that process. In that sense, I'm glad it's his ass on the line now.[/QUOTE]

Well what I have suggested (not to Snyder, but to the board here) and what seems to finally be taking shape is that Scott Campbell be given a large role in the day-to-day management of the football team and Cerrato slowly move away from that. I don't think VC will get fired, but what you could see two or three years down the line is him having less influence on football matters and more on overall strategy and business matters. For example, he could work side by side with Snyder and Schar and DC Mayor Adrian Fenty on a new stadium.