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you got a good idea immediately (i'm talking years ago) when you saw what he could do and what needed work... things you can't really work on, like poise or pocket presence, he had (And a wicked longball with touch! things ramsey never showed). his decisions and ball handling weren't good, but those things are fixable (and, well, wow... he learns quick).

i mean, this guy came to redskins park the WEEKEND he was drafted to start learning the playbook immediately (even though he wasn't allowed to practice with the team). he's made the extra effort to throw to our WRs outside of practice every year.

it's kinda the same way i thought of zorn... the first impression for both was someone that'd be able to make it work, and there have been mistakes, but nothing to cause any real doubt (unless 1 game is enough to send you into reactionary ranting, but that's not me).

i am surprised at how fast they've both improved though. from ugly preseason losses (after such a good start) to such solid play in just 1 real game...

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Check the stats:

[url=http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats;jsessionid=8F378C3754508566961A7E87964B83D0?season=2008&seasonType=REG&d-447263-o=2&conference=null&tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=PASSING&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=PASSING_PASSER_RATING&d-447263-n=1]NFL Stats: by Player Category[/url]

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You have to be smart to learn as many offenses as he has, but I never expected him to look this good this quick. That's what's mindblowin. Awesome job by him AND Zorn.

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[quote=Mattyk72;482864]Check the stats:

[URL="http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats;jsessionid=8F378C3754508566961A7E87964B83D0?season=2008&seasonType=REG&d-447263-o=2&conference=null&tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=PASSING&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=PASSING_PASSER_RATING&d-447263-n=1"]NFL Stats: by Player Category[/URL][/quote]

McNabb may fall a bit after tonight so move Campbell up one more.

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[quote=Mattyk72;482864]Check the stats:

[url=http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats;jsessionid=8F378C3754508566961A7E87964B83D0?season=2008&seasonType=REG&d-447263-o=2&conference=null&tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=PASSING&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=PASSING_PASSER_RATING&d-447263-n=1]NFL Stats: by Player Category[/url][/quote]

The 0 sure stands out in the INT column.

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[quote=Southpaw;482801]Campbell was in the middle of the pack last season, and has shown flashes of brilliance, several times in the last three seasons. Like Paintrain said, the problem is this fanbase seems to think that if a quarterback doesn't look like Peyton Manning right out of the gate(or a corner doesn't look like Champ, or a tailback doesn't look like LT, etc.), they never will be any good.[/quote]

Thank you!!!!!!

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JC and Zorn get mad props/credit, finally it appears we have an offense that compliments our defense.

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[quote=Southpaw;482801]Campbell was in the middle of the pack last season, and has shown flashes of brilliance, several times in the last three seasons. Like Paintrain said, the problem is this fanbase seems to think that if a quarterback doesn't look like Peyton Manning right out of the gate(or a corner doesn't look like Champ, or a tailback doesn't look like LT, etc.), they never will be any good.[/quote]

You said it perfectly. You know who (by fanbase definition) didn't look like an NFL QB 20 starts into his career? Drew Brees. Yes, the same one who is leading the NFL in every passing category. Some fans either don't believe in or don't know how to measure progress.

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Wait a second, I thought this thread got locked? What happened? I coulda sworn I saw SS lock it...

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Greatness in the making. Jason is the Zen f*cking master of cool.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;482731]I am still not 100% sold on Campbell, but if he keeps playing like this he will go down as a hall of famer. He has been unbelievable.[/quote]

T.O.Killa, you are a hard person to please. What does Jason Campbell have to do to win you over? He just bitch-slapped the Cowgirls in Cowtown. It doesn't get any better than that.

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[quote=GMScud;482952]Wait a second, I thought this thread got locked? What happened? I coulda sworn I saw SS lock it...[/quote]

I locked the other one.

As for JC, great to see him playing so well. Aikman made a good point yesterday, that Zorn isn't doing the conventional things to protect a young QB but he's putting the team in position to make plays (to some extent, at the expense of Jason Campbell). To me, that shows great confidence in Campbell to be the man.

As a coach, maybe Joe Gibbs couldn't quite make a star out of Campbell but props to JG the President for believing that JC was our future and going after him.

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[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80b32a3a&template=with-video&confirm=true]Efficient Campbell, Redskins ascending in NFC East[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk72;482984][URL="http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80b32a3a&template=with-video&confirm=true"]Efficient Campbell, Redskins ascending in NFC East[/URL][/quote]You could post about half a dozen of these articles. All the major sports sites have a lead story about how good the Redskins are.

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How's this taste?

NFC East QB Ratings

Jason Campbell: 102.2
Tony Romo: 99.0
Donovan McNabb: 95.7
Eli Manning: 91.1