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Longtimefan 10-14-2009 07:23 PM

Re: DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy
 
[quote=Mattyk72;608452]When he can tackle an ancient QB who can't run in the open field, then let's talk.[/quote]

Leave it to Riggins to set the record straight.

RobH4413 10-14-2009 07:30 PM

Re: DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;608405]
As to Hall's comments - honestly, I don't mind them. In fact, I'm happy he's telling it like it is. This team is falling apart at the seams and this is just further evidence of it. Hopefully, things will continue to unravel and, at some point, Snyder will realize the front office structure has to change. So I applaud Hall. No amount of interceptions he catches will do this franchise more good than the words he's speaking now.[/quote]

So it's okay to call your teammate, who needs your support because he is being placed in a new starting role, a huge downgrade? I really think those comments are absurd. I'm honestly mortified by them. Use your common sense, don't be an asshole, and do what's best for the team.

Not only do I not applaud Hall, but If I were a coach I would sit his ass out a series or two. After your seasons over, you can open up a lot more, but mid season? Unreal. I'm embarrassed for him.

12thMan 10-14-2009 07:43 PM

Re: DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy
 
[quote=RobH4413;608545]So it's okay to call your teammate, who needs your support because he is being placed in a new starting role, a huge downgrade? I really think those comments are absurd. I'm honestly mortified by them. Use your common sense, don't be an asshole, and do what's best for the team.

Not only do I not applaud Hall, but If I were a coach I would sit his ass out a series or two. After your seasons over, you can open up a lot more, but mid season? Unreal. I'm embarrassed for him.[/quote]

Rob, I kinda want to clarify my point. I don't condone Hall calling out his teammates, I just don't think it has a damaging affect and splits the locker room like the media and most fans portray. That's where I'm coming from. I also think most players show their true stripes when the going get's tough. We're just seeing the real D.Hall, as far as I'm concerned.

What is troubling to me is that there seems to be a brewing consensus among the players that things ain't right at Redskins Park. And they're tired of pointing fingers at just the guys wearing the uniforms.

Sad to say the only thing the cures strife within team is winning.

CrazyCanuck 10-14-2009 07:48 PM

Re: DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy
 
[quote=Mattyk72;608452]When he can tackle an ancient QB who can't run in the open field, then let's talk.[/quote]

Amen to that. And where does Hall think the cap space would have come from to sign all these quality O-linemen? Right out of his contract that's where. Besides this whole point is moot anyways. We lost Samuels so now we're a sh*t team?? LOL please...

Personally I'm tired of this whole bunch. The only guy I like right now is Zorn. I don't think he's ready to be an NFL coach, but at least:

1. He's sincerely trying his best.
2. He's not blaming anyone but himself.

The rest of these clowns should take example.

Remember this is the same coach who knocked off Philly and Dallas back-to-back on the road last year. I've watched this team for 30 years and those were two of the most impressive regular season wins I can remember.

This whole thing started to unravel midway through last year when Portis threw Zorn under the bus, and the rest of the team followed suit with their play. Losing that game in Cincy with a playoff spot on the line was unacceptable. Where's the pride??

The boys from the "U" and the rest of them are such big stars but they haven't won squat here. I know, Snyder's a bad owner, Gibbs was too old for today's game, Zorn is in over his head, blah blah blah... the excuses are getting old. At some point the players gotta take some responsibility. But not this group. Just keep yapping away and cashing the cheques.

2009 is a lost cause, so is 2010. Time to blow it up. Keep the unmoveable contracts and the promising kids, and jettison the rest. The only one I'll feel bad for is Zorn.

GhettoDogAllStars 10-14-2009 07:53 PM

Re: DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy
 
[quote=SkinzzFan;608520]I agree but I'm not sure there's a guy on the roster who is playing up to his contract.[/quote]

Hall is tied for second in the league with 3 interceptions.

London Fletcher leads the league in tackles with 59.

RobH4413 10-14-2009 07:53 PM

Re: DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy
 
[quote=CrazyCanuck;608551]Amen to that. And where does Hall think the cap space would have come from to sign all these quality O-linemen? Right out of his contract that's where. Besides this whole point is moot anyways. We lost Samuels so now we're a sh*t team?? LOL please...

Personally I'm tired of this whole bunch. The only guy I like right now is Zorn. I don't think he's ready to be an NFL coach, but at least:

1. He's sincerely trying his best.
2. He's not blaming anyone but himself.

The rest of these clowns should take example.

Remember this is the same coach who knocked off Philly and Dallas back-to-back on the road last year. I've watched this team for 30 years and those were two of the most impressive regular season wins I can remember.

This whole thing started to unravel midway through last year when Portis threw Zorn under the bus, and the rest of the team followed suit with their play. Losing that game in Cincy with a playoff spot on the line was unacceptable. Where's the pride??

The boys from the "U" and the rest of them are such big stars but they haven't won squat here. I know, Snyder's a bad owner, Gibbs was too old for today's game, Zorn is in over his head, blah blah blah... the excuses are getting old. At some point the players gotta take some responsibility. But not this group. Just keep yapping away and cashing the cheques.

2009 is a lost cause, so is 2010. Keep the unmoveable contracts and the promising kids, and jettison the rest. Time to blow it up. The only one I'll feel bad about is Zorn.[/quote]

Great post. I'm ready for a fire sale. Lets suck for a few years and build through the draft finally... please. I know it's redundant. But its time.

SmootSmack 10-14-2009 08:32 PM

Re: DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy
 
[quote=CrazyCanuck;608551]Amen to that. And where does Hall think the cap space would have come from to sign all these quality O-linemen? Right out of his contract that's where. Besides this whole point is moot anyways. We lost Samuels so now we're a sh*t team?? LOL please...

Personally I'm tired of this whole bunch. The only guy I like right now is Zorn. I don't think he's ready to be an NFL coach, but at least:

1. He's sincerely trying his best.
2. He's not blaming anyone but himself.

The rest of these clowns should take example.

Remember this is the same coach who knocked off Philly and Dallas back-to-back on the road last year. I've watched this team for 30 years and those were two of the most impressive regular season wins I can remember.

This whole thing started to unravel midway through last year when Portis threw Zorn under the bus, and the rest of the team followed suit with their play. Losing that game in Cincy with a playoff spot on the line was unacceptable. Where's the pride??

The boys from the "U" and the rest of them are such big stars but they haven't won squat here. I know, Snyder's a bad owner, Gibbs was too old for today's game, Zorn is in over his head, blah blah blah... the excuses are getting old. At some point the players gotta take some responsibility. But not this group. Just keep yapping away and cashing the cheques.

2009 is a lost cause, so is 2010. Time to blow it up. Keep the unmoveable contracts and the promising kids, and jettison the rest. The only one I'll feel bad for is Zorn.[/quote]

The cheques. A nice reminder that you're Canadian :)

Anyhow, I feel bad for Zorn to an extent. He may have taken on too much. And I understand that he wasn't hired to be the head coach initially but when he became the head coach maybe he could have/should have ceded other roles he had. Also, Zorn has often blamed the execution of the players rather than the scheme. Such the Portis QB Option pass against the Rams. So I guess my point is none should really be absolved of blame in any of this...except the Red Snapper

Oh and thanks for the plug. But I won't settle for less than Executive Vice President :)

SkinzzFan 10-14-2009 08:43 PM

Re: DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy
 
[quote=WaldSkins;608528]Im pretty sure Chris Horton is earning his paycheck.[/quote]

Which is why Reed Doughty is now starting ahead of him.

tryfuhl 10-14-2009 08:44 PM

Re: DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy
 
[quote=RobH4413;608545]So it's okay to call your teammate, who needs your support because he is being placed in a new starting role, a huge downgrade? I really think those comments are absurd. I'm honestly mortified by them. Use your common sense, don't be an asshole, and do what's best for the team.

Not only do I not applaud Hall, but If I were a coach I would sit his ass out a series or two. After your seasons over, you can open up a lot more, but mid season? Unreal. I'm embarrassed for him.[/quote]
man.. it's not like that

he's just saying when you go from a multiple pro bowl guy to someone who isn't you have worries.. putting a TE to help every play said everything that Hall did and more

God forbid our players be frustrated with the situation that they have and actually point out reasons why we may be struggling

Ruhskins 10-14-2009 09:14 PM

Re: DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy
 
We do have problems with personnel...we have one CB that can't tackle a statue of a QB and another who couldn't catch a ball even if it was dipped in crazy glue.

SmootSmack 10-14-2009 09:19 PM

Re: DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy
 
In honor of djnemo quoting Shakespeare in another thread I will quote Homer here

This team sure does suck. They just plain suck! I've seen teams suck before, but these are the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked :)

tryfuhl 10-14-2009 09:23 PM

Re: DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy
 
I mean are we really trying to question a dude whiffing a single play? ...

Ruhskins 10-14-2009 09:42 PM

Re: DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy
 
[quote=tryfuhl;608595]I mean are we really trying to question a dude whiffing a single play? ...[/quote]

Eh, D. Hall is a bit outspoken and people hate him no matter what. I mean he whiffed a big time play, but also made a big time play. You don't see people going nuts about Rogers dropping a pick that hit him in the hands. But he's getting paid more than Rogers, and is expected to make plays every time.

tryfuhl 10-14-2009 09:44 PM

Re: DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy
 
[quote=Ruhskins;608611]Eh, D. Hall is a bit outspoken and people hate him no matter what. I mean he whiffed a big time play, but also made a big time play. You don't see people going nuts about Rogers dropping a pick that hit him in the hands. But he's getting paid more than Rogers, and is expected to make plays every time.[/quote]
Indeed

he gives us the ball on the 1, I'll take a missed tackle everytime for that, inopportune, especially considering the point of the game? sure

he's a cb though

SFREDSKIN 10-14-2009 09:47 PM

Re: DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy
 
[quote=CrazyCanuck;608551]Amen to that. And where does Hall think the cap space would have come from to sign all these quality O-linemen? Right out of his contract that's where. Besides this whole point is moot anyways. We lost Samuels so now we're a sh*t team?? LOL please...

Personally I'm tired of this whole bunch. The only guy I like right now is Zorn. I don't think he's ready to be an NFL coach, but at least:

1. He's sincerely trying his best.
2. He's not blaming anyone but himself.

The rest of these clowns should take example.

Remember this is the same coach who knocked off Philly and Dallas back-to-back on the road last year. I've watched this team for 30 years and those were two of the most impressive regular season wins I can remember.

This whole thing started to unravel midway through last year when Portis threw Zorn under the bus, and the rest of the team followed suit with their play. Losing that game in Cincy with a playoff spot on the line was unacceptable. Where's the pride??

The boys from the "U" and the rest of them are such big stars but they haven't won squat here. I know, Snyder's a bad owner, Gibbs was too old for today's game, Zorn is in over his head, blah blah blah... the excuses are getting old. At some point the players gotta take some responsibility. But not this group. Just keep yapping away and cashing the cheques.

2009 is a lost cause, so is 2010. Time to blow it up. Keep the unmoveable contracts and the promising kids, and jettison the rest. The only one I'll feel bad for is Zorn.[/quote]

Beautiful post!!! We should avoid players from the "U" like the plague.


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