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[quote=mlmdub130;612223]Did anyone hear the news that just broke on fanhouse.com and 106.7 the fan? Apparently Danny boy tried to hire Shanahan to come in this season to replace Zorn to be the head coach, and he declined, some one needs to start a new thread[/quote]

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/32805-shanahan-turned-down-coaching-offer-year.html[/url]

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[quote=mlmdub130;612223]Did anyone hear the news that just broke on fanhouse.com and 106.7 the fan? Apparently Danny boy tried to hire Shanahan to come in this season to replace Zorn to be the head coach, and he declined, some one needs to start a new thread[/quote]
it was discussed a couple of weeks ago.. and there is a thread about it now as well

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[quote=franklinhimself;612151]A full page of replies and not a single serious response that adds anything about the guy's history as a play caller.
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I see you're new here. Welcome. Sherman Lewis sucks.

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lol yupp when was the last time we actually contributed to anything? ever?

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Being a long-suffering Orioles fan, I can see some loose paralells to the initial period of Peter Angelos' dictatorship. Oriole fans typically refer to this general set of behaviors as management being "Stuck on Stupid".

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[quote=dgack;612276]I see you're new here. Welcome. Sherman Lewis sucks.[/quote]

LOL. Nice

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This may be old news but when we spoke last about this topic it was wild rumor. This now has been confirmed as truth.

Most the things we speak about on here are basically what ifs because we don't really know what the front office does behind closed doors but this affirms that they committed this action during this offseason.

I think it speaks volumes about what they plan to do this offseason and how they plan to structure the future front office...with or without Vinny.

It also speaks about how they are going to treat the next coach who comes to DC. They offered a job to someone without first having a vacancy. If that is no big deal to you then you're probably not one of the perspective coaches for the Washington Redskins because they'd probably give this some thought.

[URL="http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/10/19/sources-mike-shanahan-turned-down-redskins-coaching-job/"]Sources: Mike Shanahan Turned Down Redskins Coaching Job -- NFL FanHouse[/URL]

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This is so unfair...how come I didn't get a call to "be an extra set of eyes" for the Redskins?

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[quote=Skinny Tee;612305]This may be old news but when we spoke last about this topic it was wild rumor. This now has been confirmed as truth.

Most the things we speak about on here are basically what ifs because we don't really know what the front office does behind closed doors but this affirms that they committed this action during this offseason.

I think it speaks volumes about what they plan to do this offseason and how they plan to structure the future front office...with or without Vinny.

[B]It also speaks about how they are going to treat the next coach who comes to DC. They offered a job to someone without first having a vacancy. If that is no big deal to you then you're probably not one of the perspective coaches for the Washington Redskins because they'd probably give this some thought.[/B]

[URL="http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/10/19/sources-mike-shanahan-turned-down-redskins-coaching-job/"]Sources: Mike Shanahan Turned Down Redskins Coaching Job -- NFL FanHouse[/URL][/quote]
I don't get how you make the leap from how/if someone else was approached to 'that's how they are going to treat the next coach'. As far as I know, Snyder has treated all of his coaches in the same manner. Turner, he berated and fired publicly. Schotty, he challenged and fired. Spurrier resigned with little resistance. Gibbs retired. Zorn is clearly a lame duck and a conversation was had. How is that a precursor to future behavior?

I don't really see anything wrong with asking your preferred choice, 'Is there a circumstance that you would come and take over in season?' It's not like they were negotiating contract terms while Zorn is putting together the gameplan. I'm not a big Snyder guy but he gets shredded for everything, even if it's not a big deal.

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[quote=rbanerjee23;612317]This is so unfair...how come I didn't get a call to "be an extra set of eyes" for the Redskins?[/quote]After watching the Skins this year I may need an extra set of eyes because there's a good chance I gouge mine out with a spoon.

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[quote=Paintrain;612327]I don't get how you make the leap from how/if someone else was approached to 'that's how they are going to treat the next coach'. As far as I know, Snyder has treated all of his coaches in the same manner. Turner, he berated and fired publicly. Schotty, he challenged and fired. Spurrier resigned with little resistance. Gibbs retired. Zorn is clearly a lame duck and a conversation was had. How is that a precursor to future behavior?

I don't really see anything wrong with asking your preferred choice, 'Is there a circumstance that you would come and take over in season?' It's not like they were negotiating contract terms while Zorn is putting together the gameplan. I'm not a big Snyder guy but he gets shredded for everything, even if it's not a big deal.[/quote]

I think it's a big deal that he offered someone a job that was filled at the moment. I know the NFL is special but there still is a professional accumen that is expected when dealing with people.

If you're telling me that I should expect that Snyder has none, then I'd say you're right. I'd also say that would effect the level of desire and the overall quality of the coaches that come to Redskins.

I know real life examples don't work for the likes of the NFL but on a human level...If you heard that your job was offered to someone else when you currently were on the clock, you'd probably be a little put out.

Gruden even remarked on it. He distanced himself from any talk of him taking over because it was unethical.
[URL="http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2009/10/jon-gruden-distances-himself-from-redskins-louisville-coaching-jobs/1"]Jon Gruden distances himself from Redskins, Louisville coaching jobs - The Huddle: Football News from the NFL - USATODAY.com[/URL]

If Snyder looks bad it's because his reputation precedes him and it is certainly warranted.

Professionally speaking, people don't deal with owners/managers who work like that because that is how you'll be dealt with when it's your time to go.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;612186]Playcalling might be better, but it all boils down to execution. Zorn might not be a good play caller, but still the players should be able to execute them no matter what is called.[/quote]

If the D knows that your going run a stretch play ever 1st down, your not going to be sucessful.

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Sherman Lewis
Green Bay Packers Offensive Coordinator1992-1999
Minnesota Vikings Offensive Coordinator 2000-2001
Detroit Lions Offensive Coordinator 2003-2004

He cant be worst than Zorn.....he has called plays before!

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[quote=Green1;612343]Sherman Lewis
Green Bay Packers Offensive Coordinator1992-1999
Minnesota Vikings Offensive Coordinator 2000-2001
Detroit Lions Offensive Coordinator 2003-2004

He cant be worst than Zorn.....he has called plays before![/quote]

Here's real insight of Lewis' history.. Doesn't look real good..

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/19/AR2009101903354.html]washingtonpost.com[/url]

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Is there any way people can wait to lambast this move until we see the end result. JZ's problem has been that he doesn't seem responsive and reactive to the defenses. He has his plan and pushes execution. I am very hopeful that a man who was in football his whole life and crafted successful offenses, can come in take our parts and maybe give us the spark that we all want to see. Certainly if our offense can make ANY strides, our D will have more of a chance to take over game.